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[MathBlade]

Re your points in 3220 Kitty - I get that Scorpious/Jackson going for Koopa may have seemed weird but it'd have so illogical and baffling for two mafia to both go on the same role-claimed player bandwagon. It was clearly never going to pick up and I'm struggling to believe you wouldn't have been able to see that at all.

My general point is here that you pushed Scorpious in particular without ever considering whether their play was too illogical or lazy for a clever mafia player trying to get of trouble. If Scorpious is mafia then fine, but the fact they were town clearly indicates you here to an extent - I ultimately don't know your alignment and to me it looks like you strongly pushed two townies because you spotted some holes in their play and saw it as a convenient thing to do.

I also think it's quite possible you/Math could be a team if HEM doesn't come back as mafia. You're defending Math and Math is very hedgy on you in 3222 as well.

I wouldn't have thought town would have made that play either, which is what I was trying to tell you. You can't blame me for pushing someone for being outrageously scummy.

Again, mafia can make mistakes too. Yes I spotted some holes and pushed them but that's because I thought they were scum at the time.

I know I am sus if Math is scum, but I am happy locktowning Math RN.

Ewwww why? Don’t get me wrong I am town but why am I locktown?

[MathBlade]

The VC from top of this page is still current

Spoiler: have a cat

Catty shark do-do-do-do etc

[MathBlade]

I want to pretty much light this entire page on fire because of all the scumminess.

Roden’s reactions do not remind me of their towngame at all. They were much more calm and collected.
Malcolm’s post looks like he’s chaining up miselims and just feels ewww
JV’s intentionally making people look worse and at the same time wondering why the hell I find their laid back play scummy and then has the gumption to argue that I should just shut up and like it anyway
Then gamma doesn’t comment on any of it and complains…

Like all of this is just bad.

I am nauseous af and it’s critical role night but I wish everyone would flip but me.

If everyone is scummy to you maybe stop complaining about it and consider that your view on scumminess is possibly just plain wrong.

Lol no. My definition is not wrong. Thanks though.

Town players can be scummy. I just wish less were. You yourself admitted you were being scummy earlier.

I am really getting paranoid JV.

[KittyTacky]

Re your points in 3220 Kitty - I get that Scorpious/Jackson going for Koopa may have seemed weird but it'd have so illogical and baffling for two mafia to both go on the same role-claimed player bandwagon. It was clearly never going to pick up and I'm struggling to believe you wouldn't have been able to see that at all.

My general point is here that you pushed Scorpious in particular without ever considering whether their play was too illogical or lazy for a clever mafia player trying to get of trouble. If Scorpious is mafia then fine, but the fact they were town clearly indicates you here to an extent - I ultimately don't know your alignment and to me it looks like you strongly pushed two townies because you spotted some holes in their play and saw it as a convenient thing to do.

I also think it's quite possible you/Math could be a team if HEM doesn't come back as mafia. You're defending Math and Math is very hedgy on you in 3222 as well.

I wouldn't have thought town would have made that play either, which is what I was trying to tell you. You can't blame me for pushing someone for being outrageously scummy.

Again, mafia can make mistakes too. Yes I spotted some holes and pushed them but that's because I thought they were scum at the time.

I know I am sus if Math is scum, but I am happy locktowning Math RN.

Ewwww why? Don’t get me wrong I am town but why am I locktown?

I really like your play so far. Everything makes sense to me from a town motivation and you never did anything seriously scummy. Following koopa's death, you are my strongest townread.

[JacksonVirgo]

I want to pretty much light this entire page on fire because of all the scumminess.

Roden’s reactions do not remind me of their towngame at all. They were much more calm and collected.
Malcolm’s post looks like he’s chaining up miselims and just feels ewww
JV’s intentionally making people look worse and at the same time wondering why the hell I find their laid back play scummy and then has the gumption to argue that I should just shut up and like it anyway
Then gamma doesn’t comment on any of it and complains…

Like all of this is just bad.

I am nauseous af and it’s critical role night but I wish everyone would flip but me.

If everyone is scummy to you maybe stop complaining about it and consider that your view on scumminess is possibly just plain wrong.

Lol no. My definition is not wrong. Thanks though.

Town players can be scummy. I just wish less were. You yourself admitted you were being scummy earlier.

I am really getting paranoid JV.

Whatever you say, but if you see everybody as scummy there's something wrong and it isn't the people.

Where did I admit to being scummy.

Get paranoid, see who gives a shit.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Prodding humaneatingmonkey and ItalianoVD

[ItalianoVD]

@Tucker: I was not trying to shade you with my questioning of your post. I didn't understand what you were saying. That was all.

@JV: Are you following up on Malcolm? Or just throwing another Gambit.

[ItalianoVD]

Prodding humaneatingmonkey and ItalianoVD

Dang I didn't even know I was gone that long.

[ItalianoVD]

Prodding humaneatingmonkey and ItalianoVD

Also, don't read into this. It's coincidental.

[JacksonVirgo]

@JV: Are you following up on Malcolm? Or just throwing another Gambit.

I've stated my thoughts on them already. No I am not following up as I have nothing to follow up with.

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm kinda out of it, I had a bit of a personal epiphany this evening

Which is?

I acted seriously out of line in another game, and I know exactly where my mistakes lies

[Gamma Emerald]

Prodding humaneatingmonkey and ItalianoVD

Also, don't read into this. It's coincidental.

I thought nothing of it until you brought it up

[Malakittens]

I think I am just angry at everything recently, apologies. Got rostered 6 days of work with a single day off and when doing overnights that means I can't do shit, actually pissed off.

That means you’re burning out.

I feel you there. Im overnights with 3 days - 12 hr slots.

I also pick up OT like a crack addict that’s addicted to crack

So the other week I did 2 days with 5 nights lmao

[Gamma Emerald]

my mom had to deal with a lot of stuff in the past few weeks (she works in accounting so tax season is bust season for her) so I relate

[Gamma Emerald]

busy season*

[MathBlade]

VOTE: JV

Someone want to explain why JV is town?

I see zero desire to solve, back off a claim to potentially miselim HEM when it picked up steam, vote sitting on a random person, deliberately makes people look scummy and discussed it with Italiano but then when I bring it up it’s like “I don’t recall”.

He’s just vote sitting Malcolm and then doesn’t explain why when asked multiple times.

[JacksonVirgo]

VOTE: JV

Someone want to explain why JV is town?

I see zero desire to solve, back off a claim to potentially miselim HEM when it picked up steam, vote sitting on a random person, deliberately makes people look scummy and discussed it with Italiano but then when I bring it up it’s like “I don’t recall”.

He’s just vote sitting Malcolm and then doesn’t explain why when asked multiple times.

1. Explained what I am doing, how about read.
2. How is stopping a potential miselim a bad thing.
3. Not random, just don't have a better option and I believe them to have been bouncing around criticism which I feel is scummy just not anything I want to case as I am not super confident in it.
4. Are you a moron? I made them look worse for them not to get killed by mafia, considering their claim how about you use your fucking brain.
5. What.

Also you didn't quote where I said I was scummy, or did you make it up.

[JacksonVirgo]

You know how I play as scum, it isn't passive yet here you are being either a dunce or scum. Which is it

[Malakittens]

JV BE NICE

[JacksonVirgo]

JV BE NICE

Yeah alright, apologies.

[Malakittens]

LIKE i get being upset, but the last two posts were definely over the line.
This is coming from someone who is known to get very aggressive & snippy

so thats a redflag

[JacksonVirgo]

LIKE i get being upset, but the last two posts were definely over the line.
This is coming from someone who is known to get very aggressive & snippy

so thats a redflag

I just feel they're being dumb, like I would almost 100% be dying tonight and that woulda been enough of a solve rather than their useless vote and yet they're ignoring that fact and deciding to piss me off instead. I get I stepped the line though, apologies.

[MathBlade]

VOTE: Unvote

Town by virtue of assholery.

I asked JV because I have done the same thing before.

Made myself obvTown then other players were always “better kills”.

So doing my due diligence is smart.

[Roden]

I don't think JV is scum. The vibes aren't there and tonally he feels genuine.

I'm kinda back and forth on Math but I think he's just a lost townie. I feel like scum!Math is more deliberate and planned than his play has been this game, and his vote on JV is +town for trying to get people to talk after the game has started to stall out.

VOTE: ItalianoVD

Don't like the prod dodge and lack of response to my posts and accusations.

[MathBlade]

I get that Scorpious/Jackson going for Koopa may have seemed weird but it'd have so illogical and baffling for two mafia to both go on the same role-claimed player bandwagon.

To clarify, I did that to make them look worse so they don't get shot rather than me particularly thinking they were scum but that also merged with my visceral repulsion of their play-style.

I am referring to here btw by intentionally scummy and you admitted it btw