Not Quite Normal Multiball II (Game Over)

[The Keeper]

I'm slightly confused here...players from any alignment can typically be in a neighbourhood no? Well Done could hypothetically read you as scum while also knowing you're in a neighbourhood with someone else, STD or otherwise, unless I've read the rules wrong.

Probably a hushie pretending to be a Gazer pretending to be a player.

[Well Done]

i think hounding monkeyman over the blurred line of what is 'null' and what is 'needs more info' is nitpicking a little

Incorrect. Separating null from lack of info indicates that there's enough to form coherent thoughts. Yet here Monkey can't give even flimsy reasons why there's null versus lack of info, which suggests it's forced/fabricated.

VOTE: Monkey

This was Nashville's last vote.

Nashville wasn't responding negatively to me at all, if anything I think they were responding positively in the sense that they think I'm caught in a tunnel, and trying to help me get out of it.


Defending Catboi does not equal scum reading.

You are actively twisting the narrative here.

They did in 1328 and 1330

[Flavor Leaf]

Actually, if there's a Mafia Miller, they should claim.

Multiball games generally have semi symmetrical setups, not exact, of course, and if there's a Werewolf Miller claim, then there should be a Miller. If there isn't, I say we power tunnel Well Done.

getting it on the new page so it doesnt get lost at the bottom.

I have been on the look out for the mafia miller claim as well, but wasn't going to say anything until everyone had checked in. Will share thoughts on the implication of no miller claim if no one has claimed it by the time everyone has checked in

This is probably an all scum hood. Sigh.

I have 3 PT's. None of them are the scum ones, and now that I know the randomization of it all, i'm so paranoid of this game

Given the mechanics of the last game, I am surprised that there are 3.

Also curious if this works out as an IC claim for you?

Flavor Leaf, do the hood mechanics make you mod proven not Mafia to 1 group of players, and mod proven not werewolf to another group of players?

Thinking about it while cleaning my kitchen, and I think that I probably should not have asked my prior question. Disregard

lol

Hey Malcom!

Apparently this game also has a lot of hoods. Try not to slip again

Well Done was actively aware of something deeper I was doing here, and now they're digging.

[Flavor Leaf]

i think hounding monkeyman over the blurred line of what is 'null' and what is 'needs more info' is nitpicking a little

Incorrect. Separating null from lack of info indicates that there's enough to form coherent thoughts. Yet here Monkey can't give even flimsy reasons why there's null versus lack of info, which suggests it's forced/fabricated.

VOTE: Monkey

This was Nashville's last vote.

Nashville wasn't responding negatively to me at all, if anything I think they were responding positively in the sense that they think I'm caught in a tunnel, and trying to help me get out of it.


Defending Catboi does not equal scum reading.

You are actively twisting the narrative here.

They did in 1328 and 1330

They aren't calling me scum for it anywhere in those posts.

[Flavor Leaf]

i think hounding monkeyman over the blurred line of what is 'null' and what is 'needs more info' is nitpicking a little

Incorrect. Separating null from lack of info indicates that there's enough to form coherent thoughts. Yet here Monkey can't give even flimsy reasons why there's null versus lack of info, which suggests it's forced/fabricated.

VOTE: Monkey

This was Nashville's last vote.

Nashville wasn't responding negatively to me at all, if anything I think they were responding positively in the sense that they think I'm caught in a tunnel, and trying to help me get out of it.


Defending Catboi does not equal scum reading.

You are actively twisting the narrative here.

They did in 1328 and 1330

They aren't calling me scum for it anywhere in those posts.

I don't see that as negative towards me, that looks like they're trying to break me out of a tunnel, which is something townier by them.

[Well Done]

Okay.

I'm definitely not in a secret neighborhood with Klick and Enchant.

If I am killed, do not go after them for secrets I've shared in the non existent neighborhood.

That was all in response to this.

[Flavor Leaf]

I'm slightly confused here...players from any alignment can typically be in a neighbourhood no? Well Done could hypothetically read you as scum while also knowing you're in a neighbourhood with someone else, STD or otherwise, unless I've read the rules wrong.

It's probably best we move on from that.

[MalcolmTucker]

i think hounding monkeyman over the blurred line of what is 'null' and what is 'needs more info' is nitpicking a little

Incorrect. Separating null from lack of info indicates that there's enough to form coherent thoughts. Yet here Monkey can't give even flimsy reasons why there's null versus lack of info, which suggests it's forced/fabricated.

VOTE: Monkey

This was Nashville's last vote.

Nashville wasn't responding negatively to me at all, if anything I think they were responding positively in the sense that they think I'm caught in a tunnel, and trying to help me get out of it.


Defending Catboi does not equal scum reading.

You are actively twisting the narrative here.

They did in 1328 and 1330

Is this an active scumread though? Someone can tunnel a player without being scum. Townies do stuff like this all the time when they become uber-focused on a slot. Flavor has done this to me when we were both town. It feels like they're unhappy with Flavor's play here but not to a degree where they are really pushing him as scum.

[Well Done]

I don't see that as negative towards me, that looks like they're trying to break me out of a tunnel, which is something townier by them.

But you said you think they're scum, so which is it?

[Well Done]

Everybody should be looking at post 2002 as a scum claim. FL doesn't really think that.

[Cephrir]

votecount 1.9

catboi (5) | Tracer Bullet, MegAzumarill, Toogeloo, Flavor Leaf, MonkeyMan576

Nashville Dreams (4) | NorwegianboyEE, Save The Dragons, Wallflower, butterchurn

MonkeyMan576 (3) | Nashville Dreams, cassowary, bnuuy

bnuuy (2) | Menalque, catboi

Wallflower (1) | MalcolmTucker
Tracer Bullet (1) | tictac
Save The Dragons (1) | The Keeper
Flavor Leaf (1) | Well Done
MegAzumarill (1) | Cat Scratch Fever

Not Voting | Enchant, mastina, Sword of Ducks, Klick

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to politely ask someone to leave.

Deadline: (expired on 2022-05-09 09:41:00).

[Flavor Leaf]

I don't see that as negative towards me, that looks like they're trying to break me out of a tunnel, which is something townier by them.

But you said you think they're scum, so which is it?

They could be scum, but if you check my reads list I actively said differently, and they're only in my Pink tier.

Catboi's not even lock lock scum for me, and he's red tier.

I was saying Catboi/Cass and Mastina/Well Done pretty clearly.

And people have been actively trying to get Nashville wagon going, and I've stayed away from it.

[Well Done]

And do you believe this is something I wouldn't do as town?

Yep

You're being manipulative and that makes you more likely to be scum

yeah, I don't believe for an instant this is a Dunnstral take. That's just a playstyle quirk.

And there's a reason it's especially concerning coming from you considering a post you made way back when that you said you probably shouldn't talk about.

This post is a lie

[Flavor Leaf]

If I was in a neighborhood, would y'all wanna know, or would it be best to hold off on that for now

Also, Well Done said it was in response to this, when this was already said in the game

They're actively twisting the narrative.

[Flavor Leaf]

And do you believe this is something I wouldn't do as town?

Yep

You're being manipulative and that makes you more likely to be scum

yeah, I don't believe for an instant this is a Dunnstral take. That's just a playstyle quirk.

And there's a reason it's especially concerning coming from you considering a post you made way back when that you said you probably shouldn't talk about.

This post is a lie

It's a lie that Dunnstral and I have been playing in games for years, and he's time and time again seen me manipulate town as town, and still is pushing it as scum?

Where's the lie?

[Save The Dragons]

k i don't really think either of you are scum

[Save The Dragons]

but i bet we'll spend pages arguing about it

[Sword of Ducks]

I don't know what happening, but I will put this here!

VOTE: Well Done

[Flavor Leaf]

Flavor Leaf (1) | Well Done

Wait, didn't Well Done try to use the "Nashville is Voting You" line

[Well Done]

We assumed you were in a neighborhood in those posts because you heavily implied that you were in a neighborhood. I don't see what the scum narrative is supposed to be in 2002, or how 2013 changes things.

[Flavor Leaf]

Well Done is probably scum who thinks I'm the other scum.

[Flavor Leaf]

We assumed you were in a neighborhood in those posts because you heavily implied that you were in a neighborhood. I don't see what the scum narrative is supposed to be in 2002, or how 2013 changes things.

Not my fault you choose not to see it because you don't like it.

[MegAzumarill]

Agree with std that im not convinced this arguement isn't in good faith from either side, but that's not a clear either way.

[Well Done]

k i don't really think either of you are scum

but i bet we'll spend pages arguing about it

You need to explain if 1977 is FL misinterpreting something or if they are outright lying or trying to fit a square into a round hole or what.

And explain how 2002 and subsequent posts on the topic can come from town

[Well Done]

I don't know what happening, but I will put this here!

VOTE: Well Done

Why?