Not Quite Normal Multiball II (Game Over)

[catboi]

I think that Flavor Leaf's reaction to getting scumread by Well Done fucking sucks. The progression from scum reading them -> calling them wrong town -> getting tilted at them and calling them liock scum is super sketchy. It doesn't look like a genuine evaluation but scum shifting through different angles trying to get the heat off them. It's a very Prism-esque progression, it just feels very fake. The attacks read more like playing offense to play defense because he's really bothered by the scumread on him. I would think that if he had truly gotten frustrated with Well Done and thought they were town just dumbly tunneled on him, he'd just back off and stop engaging with them, but instead he keeps going and 180s. The only reason I can see for this happening is because he's

really

bothered by their scumread on him and wants to discredit it. There's not even really a possibility he gets yeeted Day 1, he just wants to stamp out all opposition to him.

meh, just got to the part where he backs down and declares it 50/50, but I

still

do not find it to be terribly believable

[catboi]

let's just try our luck with the beloved princess and see what crazy stuff happens over night.

VOTE: Mastina

Also, again, ridiculously sketchy, coming right after Wallflower expressed doubt on mastina in 2180 and Toogeloo had expressed a willingness to vote momentum. It looks like potentially he's hoping to seize on the momentum to eliminate a beloved princess and get an advantage off that

[catboi]

The gears are turning in my head. I think I overreacted to Wallflower because I don't like being tunneled, especially not the way she went after me, but something as simple as the exchange about STD last night didn't ~feel~ like the route scum would take. Need a few hours to sit down and look at the playerlist and sort things through.

Is any suspicion/vote on you being “tunneled”? I’m not sure that I LOVE this as an excuse for scumreading me

You've been on my nuts since page 4, you won't shut up about me, like 80% of your posts are about me, you barely even have real reads on anyone, you're either tunneled or hopelessly obsessed with me, that's pretty clear

[The Keeper]

And detached from the game and what’s going on in an suspicious/scummy way.

The Moon has also stated she's unwell at the moment...

[catboi]

I don't know what to say, lmao, if you're town you are

hardcore

tunneled right now, that's a fact - I don't even know why you'd have a problem with me using that word, since it's not like being tunneled is a scum tell and you can

correctly

tunnel someone, I know you're wrong but why aren't you okay with admitting you're tunneled? Feels a very odd thing to bristle at.

Also, I was literally saying I thought you might be

town

in that post, are you even reading what I say?

[catboi]

Flavor, did you see the 1705 about Nashville Dreams?

Yeah, I saw it.

Nashville could be scum, they're in my Pink tier, but part of me thinks they could just be town not in the game fully.

I likely wont be one of the main ones pushing Nashville myself, but I do town read most of the people pushing them.

Idk. I feel like I'd be able to read them with a much higher certainty a little bit later in the game, and it's holding me back from wanting to go there.

I get the case, I just don't know if it makes them scum, is where I'm at.

Does anyone get major red flags from this post? The way he's talking about Nashville he has them in his scumreads but he keeps making excuses to not join the wagon on them.

[catboi]

it significantly reminds me of how I used to talk about my partners in games, like I'd fos them but mke excuses to vote elsewhere and then join the wagon on them late if it felt inevitable

[NorwegianboyEE]

it significantly reminds me of how I used to talk about my partners in games, like I'd fos them but mke excuses to vote elsewhere and then join the wagon on them late if it felt inevitable

You’re welcome to vote Nashville yeeaaah

[Menalque]

I could do FL if that’s what you’re getting at cb

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don’t think anything FL has done so far is not something town!them would do.

I don’t care how scummy or manipulative y’all think he’s been.

[MonkeyMan576]

I don’t think anything FL has done so far is not something town!them would do.

I don’t care how scummy or manipulative y’all think he’s been.

Is his scum game that different than his town game?

[catboi]

Okay, I'm caught up. Let's do this thing:

Town reads:

Sword of Ducks (de facto Innocent Child)
Menalque
Well Done
MalcolmTucker
butterchurn
Save The Dragons
mastina
MonkeyMan576 (little less confident on this one than the others but only because I haven't been paying as much attention to him lately)

Town leans:

Cat Scratch Fever
cassowary
Tracer Bullet (feels grotty putting him here but I do think the play was pooky-town)
Klick (a bit concerned as from what I've seen as scum he tends to fade off as the game goeson, but not enough that I'd be fine with seeing him eliminaed today)

Null:

Toogeloo
Wallflower
The Keeper

Scum reads:

Nashville Dreams (Titus & Malakittens)
MegAzumarill
bnuuy
tictac
Enchant
Flavor Leaf
NorwegianboyEE


I had liked Mala early but it feels like she's fallen off the face of the planet and Titus's progression on me where she was defending me and then made a comment about how I have to be eliminated because of counterwagons was

super

sketchy and made no sense, like she was angling for a way to be able to join the bandwagon on me

I had wanted to believe the self-meta about following other people and sheeping them but after giving him a read over, I really do think this could be a scum-norwee game. He doesn't feel like he has any reads he cares about and it's vastly different from the town game of his in a large that I looked it.

meg/bnuuy/tictac/enchant just feel like cheat code scum where they're doing nothing, and aside from bnuuy they haven't gotten heat for it, just kind of classically low-effort. You could say toogeloo here but I feel like they'd play this way as eeither alignment, the beloved princess stuff gives me the heebie jeebies though.

[catboi]

The no-efforters are something like the easy freebies but they're not at the risk of endgaming, I might do the legwork to actually case norwee later because he's one I could easily see slipping through the cracks this game

[catboi]

Also,

GOD DAMN

that felt good. Love being able to not have an extra cognitive load completely dragging me down.

[catboi]

I could do FL if that’s what you’re getting at cb

I don't know if I'm going to get support for it on day 1, I tend to play by picking off the minnows before going for the big fish but I feel actually really damn good about my townreads this game which is pretty crazy for day 1, which makes me think my POE is good.

[NorwegianboyEE]

FL is also going to make a lot of noise if you try to wagon him on day 1.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don’t think anything FL has done so far is not something town!them would do.

I don’t care how scummy or manipulative y’all think he’s been.

Is his scum game that different than his town game?

I think if he was scum here he would be much more townread.
Town!him is much more wild and untamed.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Killing off a scum lurker such as Nashville is a pretty good day 1 elim me thinks.

[catboi]

I don’t think anything FL has done so far is not something town!them would do.

I don’t care how scummy or manipulative y’all think he’s been.

Is his scum game that different than his town game?

I think if he was scum here he would be much more townread.
Town!him is much more wild and untamed.

I think he's much more townread than scumread at this point, so that's not a very good argument.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don’t think anything FL has done so far is not something town!them would do.

I don’t care how scummy or manipulative y’all think he’s been.

Is his scum game that different than his town game?

I think if he was scum here he would be much more townread.
Town!him is much more wild and untamed.

I think he's much more townread than scumread at this point, so that's not a very good argument.

Question, have you played with FL before?

[catboi]

Killing off a scum lurker such as Nashville is a pretty good day 1 elim me thinks.

Okay, why Nashville in particular for you, over any number of the other lurky players?

[catboi]

I don’t think anything FL has done so far is not something town!them would do.

I don’t care how scummy or manipulative y’all think he’s been.

Is his scum game that different than his town game?

I think if he was scum here he would be much more townread.
Town!him is much more wild and untamed.

I think he's much more townread than scumread at this point, so that's not a very good argument.

Question, have you played with FL before?

Yeah, a few times.

[The Keeper]

FL is also going to make a lot of noise if you try to wagon him on day 1.

FL has 399 posts...
Catboi is bringing up second with 204.
Meanwhile I'm in the middle on 55 posts.

How much more noise do you think he can make?

[The Keeper]

I'm going to make a nice little call out now.

Every single one of you who wants to take on the lurker and inactive slots, cheat yourselves a Bozo the Clown.

Because this game is very much dominated by clowns.

399, 204, 193, 177, 157, 156, 149.
Then its 99, 85, 81, 77, 73, 62, 60, 57, 40, 36, 31 - some of who are being called out as inactive coaster slots.

Ever thought they just don't want to drege through The Dross that is most of the posts from those top tier posters?

[The Keeper]

oh and the 85 is Tracer Bullet, for the record.