Not Quite Normal Multiball II (Game Over)

[SCP 682]

@SCP why not vote on one of the leading wagons, do you think they are both town?

I have significantly higher confidence in the wagons I want to push specifically.

And they already have the pressure there -> I have no issue pressuring the low posters I think are solidly in scum meta.

You don't think players that have been playing the game for a week might have more insight than you? What makes you so confident?

I have a fresh perspective on the game. I also am very good at reading through things quickly.

I power ISO'd the players I have confident reads on currently. I also ISO'd the current leading wagon and found them mostly null.

[Wallflower]

Like I have a delicious catboi/Klick scumteam theory but I’d rather get the less complex scum elims and reevaluate from there

[MonkeyMan576]

Catboi seems like he's trying to get us to forget the gamestate reasons for scumreading him by hyper posting and trying to look town. He is still scum imo.

[SCP 682]

OK. That's fine. I will tell you the same thing that I told Quick in Large 236. I will allow you to push your own theories that I think include incorrect ones, and I will continue to just vote scum and bury them with the rest of the town. I am ok with that. I do not need your vote to bury my scumreads as it is not limlo.

I will convince you with a rolecard reveal. I expect you to listen to me after that in the PT.

I do not see the reason why they need to be defended. Let the wagon form. Let them be pressured. If they are town - invariably they will react to the pressure in a towny way. Pressure will always cause people to alignment tell more than just leaving them be. Letting low poster fly on d1 is a terrible strategy to me and I know I am correct in that assessment.

I tried to get a vigilante to shoot Quick in a game where he was an IC.

I was town.

We would have won that game if the vig listened to me.

Self meta.

Off topic but that is funny because I 100% believe you on that without needing to read that game lol.

[Save The Dragons]

Imagine if this was every post

That's the monastery

[MonkeyMan576]

@SCP why not vote on one of the leading wagons, do you think they are both town?

I have significantly higher confidence in the wagons I want to push specifically.

And they already have the pressure there -> I have no issue pressuring the low posters I think are solidly in scum meta.

You don't think players that have been playing the game for a week might have more insight than you? What makes you so confident?

I have a fresh perspective on the game. I also am very good at reading through things quickly.

I power ISO'd the players I have confident reads on currently. I also ISO'd the current leading wagon and found them mostly null.

What do you think about your predecessor?

[Flavor Leaf]

I get that a lot of other people may be scum but the fact is there are lots of scum in this game and Nashville is probably one of them so why not just do it?

I think we're closer to Catboi than Nashville.

It might just be weakness of conviction but I’m doubting the scumread on catboi a bit.

My thing right now is Catboi, Menalque, Well Done, SPC have scum in them. Like there's no chance there isn't for me.

Like STD said, you can say any group of 4 and there's likely to be scum in them.

I also individually scum read Catboi more than I scum read the others.

Nashville I have reasons to believe are town moreso than Catboi, but that might be because of my familiarity with Titus. 25+ games. Including in real. And I did push them as scummy with Catboi back then, I just feel like Catboi's more likely to be scum than Nashville, and I want to give Nashville hydra more time to post.

Catboi's posted plenty for me to read, and i'm not town reading them.

I don't think I'm wrong with CatboiScum.

[SCP 682]

@SCP why not vote on one of the leading wagons, do you think they are both town?

I have significantly higher confidence in the wagons I want to push specifically.

And they already have the pressure there -> I have no issue pressuring the low posters I think are solidly in scum meta.

You don't think players that have been playing the game for a week might have more insight than you? What makes you so confident?

I have a fresh perspective on the game. I also am very good at reading through things quickly.

I power ISO'd the players I have confident reads on currently. I also ISO'd the current leading wagon and found them mostly null.

What do you think about your predecessor?

I think their townreads were generally accurate. I trust pooky on that front.

I gave his scumreads a consideration but I don't quite agree with all of them, cant remember if i agree with any.

[MonkeyMan576]

@SCP why not vote on one of the leading wagons, do you think they are both town?

I have significantly higher confidence in the wagons I want to push specifically.

And they already have the pressure there -> I have no issue pressuring the low posters I think are solidly in scum meta.

You don't think players that have been playing the game for a week might have more insight than you? What makes you so confident?

I have a fresh perspective on the game. I also am very good at reading through things quickly.

I power ISO'd the players I have confident reads on currently. I also ISO'd the current leading wagon and found them mostly null.

What do you think about your predecessor?

I think their townreads were generally accurate. I trust pooky on that front.

I gave his scumreads a consideration but I don't quite agree with all of them, cant remember if i agree with any.

So you made your reads mostly on your own analysis without considering anyone else's opinions?

[Flavor Leaf]

Catboi seems like he's trying to get us to forget the gamestate reasons for scumreading him by hyper posting and trying to look town. He is still scum imo.

This is exactly how NPOM/MonkeyMan talks when he is town. He throws things out that are completely true like this, but his awkward posting style makes people not follow him/agree with him/scumread him.

[Flavor Leaf]

that being said, i havent played with Monkey Scum, but nevertheless, I am town reading Monkey individually of meta.

[Flavor Leaf]

@SCP why not vote on one of the leading wagons, do you think they are both town?

I have significantly higher confidence in the wagons I want to push specifically.

And they already have the pressure there -> I have no issue pressuring the low posters I think are solidly in scum meta.

You don't think players that have been playing the game for a week might have more insight than you? What makes you so confident?

I have a fresh perspective on the game. I also am very good at reading through things quickly.

I power ISO'd the players I have confident reads on currently. I also ISO'd the current leading wagon and found them mostly null.

What do you think about your predecessor?

I think their townreads were generally accurate. I trust pooky on that front.

I gave his scumreads a consideration but I don't quite agree with all of them, cant remember if i agree with any.

I dont like how you just trust all of Pooky's reads except every one of his scum reads.

[SCP 682]

I think that if I was wrong on any number of my reads within my GtH scumreads I would slot in:

Wallflower
Meg
Catboi

[Flavor Leaf]

Like I have a delicious catboi/Klick scumteam theory but I’d rather get the less complex scum elims and reevaluate from there

why does Catboi get that pass Nashville doesnt?

The awkward lurking postings by Nashville?

[SCP 682]

Everyone else I think is *probably* pure.

[MonkeyMan576]

Catboi seems like he's trying to get us to forget the gamestate reasons for scumreading him by hyper posting and trying to look town. He is still scum imo.

This is exactly how NPOM/MonkeyMan talks when he is town. He throws things out that are completely true like this, but his awkward posting style makes people not follow him/agree with him/scumread him.

You're posting style has a way of drawing attention as well.

[Flavor Leaf]

Everyone else I think is *probably* pure.

Eh probably a few in your pure slots, but if you nabbed like 2 from each team, that's good for day 1.

You putting Catboi there at least is you starting to see some of the cases, at least.

I think you're just defending Catboi mostly because you want to give them a Day 1 pass.

I'm basically doing the same for Nashville, I guess.

[MonkeyMan576]

I probably used my contraction wrong, forgive me. Sometimes I type before I think.

[MonkeyMan576]

Anyways, I know I am autistic/awkward so it doesn't really bother me what people think about it.

[Flavor Leaf]

Catboi seems like he's trying to get us to forget the gamestate reasons for scumreading him by hyper posting and trying to look town. He is still scum imo.

This is exactly how NPOM/MonkeyMan talks when he is town. He throws things out that are completely true like this, but his awkward posting style makes people not follow him/agree with him/scumread him.

You're posting style has a way of drawing attention as well.

Yeah.

You mentioned his hyper posting over there, but if you look at when it happened, it was after Well Done had just gone after me, so they piggybacked the Well Done heat to swap their read on me from town reading to scum reading.

Nothing had changed from my posting from the day before. They used my Mastina push of all things to try to warrant it too.


PEdit:
Awkward's not bad.

[Wallflower]

Like I have a delicious catboi/Klick scumteam theory but I’d rather get the less complex scum elims and reevaluate from there

why does Catboi get that pass Nashville doesnt?

The awkward lurking postings by Nashville?

I feel more conflicted on catboi than on Nashville. To me, Nashville’s posting fits entirely in the realm of what I expect from overwhelmed scum pretending to be scumhunting. I can see a strong argument for catboi being scum and am not averse to voting there, but there is more clouding that read for me, with stuff from catboi that I worry could potentially indicate town.

[Menalque]

ok after some thought, here is a GtH list of people I think could potentially contain all scum:

tictac
butterchurn
bunny
klick
menalque
enchant
cass
nashville
csf

Uh

Fuckin

Excuse me, SCP?!

[Flavor Leaf]

Like I have a delicious catboi/Klick scumteam theory but I’d rather get the less complex scum elims and reevaluate from there

why does Catboi get that pass Nashville doesnt?

The awkward lurking postings by Nashville?

I feel more conflicted on catboi than on Nashville. To me, Nashville’s posting fits entirely in the realm of what I expect from overwhelmed scum pretending to be scumhunting. I can see a strong argument for catboi being scum and am not averse to voting there, but there is more clouding that read for me, with stuff from catboi that I worry could potentially indicate town.

I understand. My thing with that is meta/familiarity, so I understand why that isn't something you'd want to take for yourself.

[Flavor Leaf]

Cat Scratch Fever could be a Catboi partner.

Maybe I'm just thinking that because of Cat, but I remember Scratch Fever trying to compromise me onto Mega.

[Flavor Leaf]

that fool Catboi tried to push me for pre flip association lol