Not Quite Normal Multiball II (Game Over)

[SCP 682]

butter/tictac/klick/bunny - ww
enchant/mena/cass/catboi - maf

this is what i reached in the monastery. mena could swap out for one of my other PoE reads - I think they are most likely malefactor.

Ew
It’s been a long-standing belief of mine that these sorts of read lists come from scum in multiball games

Anyone who has played with me in large games will tell you I go for the throat and try to full solve on day 1.

[Sword of Ducks]

usually when I do play scum I tend to eventually go rouge on my teammates and do dumb shit that gets me killed

Maybe stop doing that?

I've not the chance.

[bnuuy]

Okay
Still don’t like your insistence on the faction division mattering in the next post but it’s whatever

[SCP 682]

Not to sound confbiased but Catboi pointing out the reads list made me go look at it and think it looked like a reads list that a scum hunting for the other faction would have and taht tracks.


also discard the maf/wolf labels from my reads - FL lied about the masonry rofl.


he claimed tictac and malcom were masons with him as well.

[Sword of Ducks]

Well Done, I think you and Sword of Ducks are both town.

Sword of Ducks, could you unvote Well Done?

Sword of Ducks, what do you think of the reads I've presented, I want your perspective on which ones you most vibe with which ones you disagree with.

Point 1: No.
Point 2: No.
Point 3: Link to reads?

[Well Done]

butter/tictac/klick/bunny - ww
enchant/mena/cass/catboi - maf

this is what i reached in the monastery. mena could swap out for one of my other PoE reads - I think they are most likely malefactor.

We are town reading butter. Dunn had Cass down as town a long time ago, but they are definitely a slot that has fallen throughthe cracks for me, and we have not actually discussed that slot in a long time. But otherwise this list is largely in our scum to null zone, although i have no interest in team solving day 1.

Why are MegA and Nashville town here?

[catboi]

Hey SCP, mind telling me how I'm being "too narrow"???

[SCP 682]

Well Done, I think you and Sword of Ducks are both town.

Sword of Ducks, could you unvote Well Done?

Sword of Ducks, what do you think of the reads I've presented, I want your perspective on which ones you most vibe with which ones you disagree with.

Point 1: No.
Point 2: No.
Point 3: Link to reads?

Can you at least try to broaden your horizons outside of Well Done and tell me how you feel?

And my reads were quoted recently - I have more in terms of separation of null/town but assume that mostly everyone is townread outside of those scumreads.

[catboi]

Not to sound confbiased but Catboi pointing out the reads list made me go look at it and think it looked like a reads list that a scum hunting for the other faction would have and taht tracks.


also discard the maf/wolf labels from my reads - FL lied about the masonry rofl.


he claimed tictac and malcom were masons with him as well.

okay now you're shifting the goalposts completely, how does that make sense

[bnuuy]

Not to sound confbiased but Catboi pointing out the reads list made me go look at it and think it looked like a reads list that a scum hunting for the other faction would have and taht tracks.


also discard the maf/wolf labels from my reads - FL lied about the masonry rofl.


he claimed tictac and malcom were masons with him as well.

Okay given this elaboration I don’t see anything out-of-line with that post

[Flavor Leaf]

Not to sound confbiased but Catboi pointing out the reads list made me go look at it and think it looked like a reads list that a scum hunting for the other faction would have and taht tracks.


also discard the maf/wolf labels from my reads - FL lied about the masonry rofl.


he claimed tictac and malcom were masons with him as well.

i did claim i was trolling, but i see why they didnt think i was

[SCP 682]

Hey SCP, mind telling me how I'm being "too narrow"???

I already discarded that part. I jumped the gun but it overall doesn't override the tonal/instigatory vibe I get from you. I feel your thread presence is calculated in a way that is scum motivated.

[Flavor Leaf]

Not to sound confbiased but Catboi pointing out the reads list made me go look at it and think it looked like a reads list that a scum hunting for the other faction would have and taht tracks.


also discard the maf/wolf labels from my reads - FL lied about the masonry rofl.


he claimed tictac and malcom were masons with him as well.

i did claim i was trolling, but i see why they didnt think i was

this was like first day of the game, when TB and I were going at it, before we yelled at each other in game thread.

TB obviously knew it wasn't a real claim because I was on their scum list.

[Well Done]

I am the almighty master of scum

Can confirm. I believe std has a 100% scum win rate for games that I was also in. This is clearly a large enough sample size for me to confidently make this claim.

[butterchurn]

I think that SCP entered and quickly figured out that they could get townread by Flavor Leaf if they agreed with him on catboi and agreed to scumhunt together. That's why the reasoning for catboi being scum keeps changing, because the reasoning doesn't matter. The reasoning is added after the fact to justify the read.

[Sword of Ducks]

Can you at least try to broaden your horizons outside of Well Done and tell me how you feel?

I need to focus on one person at a time. Pressure must be applied. Whether that pressure stops the bleeding or begins it, remains to be seen.

[Sword of Ducks]

butter/tictac/klick/bunny - ww
enchant/mena/cass/catboi - maf

this is what i reached in the monastery. mena could swap out for one of my other PoE reads - I think they are most likely malefactor.

Not sure how I feel about this.

[Flavor Leaf]

I think that SCP entered and quickly figured out that they could get townread by Flavor Leaf if they agreed with him on catboi and agreed to scumhunt together. That's why the reasoning for catboi being scum keeps changing, because the reasoning doesn't matter. The reasoning is added after the fact to justify the read.

Noting this.

[Flavor Leaf]

Yeah, honestly, if Catboi flips scum, Butter's next, tbh

[Flavor Leaf]

I was town reading them, but SCP did case against them a bit earlier.

Catboi/Cass/Klick/Butter is my way too early team prediction for a team

[Wallflower]

Regardless of whether you/Klick are scum together or not, I think that you presented an invalid reason for why you/Klick cannot be scum together, claiming my theory to be dumb as a result.

On an unrelated note, I didn’t like the implication that if Klick were your scumbuddy he wouldn’t have the autonomy to do something like vote for you without it being your command, but that’s just a separate pet peeve sort of thing.

To elaborate: it is not just "lol scum RVS distancing" (though that tell is

so old

it can probably legally buy alcohol and is almost never accurate) but that klick made a serious effort tostart a wagon on me and made a case on me to the point it would amount to an intentional throw if scum

the way you are talking about this feels more like you just

want

it to be true rather than whether you've considered if it's

likely

In this post, I think you are exaggerating the weight behind Klick’s reasoning at the time as well as the foreseeable likelihood of it causing a serious wagon. It would not have been an intentional throw at all, especially if you legitimately believe it’s something that would make you unlikely to be partners.

I also think the last line is an overreaction, given that I am merely considering it as a theory rather than pushing one of you as the scumbuddy of the other. Your post also ignores the fact that Klick voting for you is NOT the reason why I think you are scum together. I presented different reasons for why I think it could be the case, and merely think that Klick voting you early is not indicative either way.

But even with all of that your posting creates the feeling of a lack of freedom to post things that are going on in my head without then being accused of being dumb, salted or lazy, which I think is a toxic culture to perpetuate.

In considering all of this, I think that this whole saga is an example of scum play from you. I do not believe that the priority here has been in determining my alignment, but rather to have me look stupid, which aligns more closely with scum goals rather than town goals.

Therefore

VOTE: Catboi

I have considered the possibility that catboi-scum would consider it unwise to pick a fight with me, but I think the posting from catboi indicates that they are expecting to come out of this with the upper intellectual hand.
On the other hand, I think that this progression makes a lot LESS sense in a catboi-town world, where I really cannot understand the thought process/motivation involved

[butterchurn]

Well Done, I think you and Sword of Ducks are both town.

Sword of Ducks, could you unvote Well Done?

Sword of Ducks, what do you think of the reads I've presented, I want your perspective on which ones you most vibe with which ones you disagree with.

Point 1: No.
Point 2: No.
Point 3: Link to reads?

[Save The Dragons]

I think that SCP entered and quickly figured out that they could get townread by Flavor Leaf if they agreed with him on catboi and agreed to scumhunt together. That's why the reasoning for catboi being scum keeps changing, because the reasoning doesn't matter. The reasoning is added after the fact to justify the read.

For what it's worth I didn't really get this impression

[SCP 682]

I think that SCP entered and quickly figured out that they could get townread by Flavor Leaf if they agreed with him on catboi and agreed to scumhunt together. That's why the reasoning for catboi being scum keeps changing, because the reasoning doesn't matter. The reasoning is added after the fact to justify the read.

no, the primary reason has been presence and tone and the main thing was the instigating to vote Nashville towards Klick.

But hey!

[butterchurn]

I think that SCP entered and quickly figured out that they could get townread by Flavor Leaf if they agreed with him on catboi and agreed to scumhunt together. That's why the reasoning for catboi being scum keeps changing, because the reasoning doesn't matter. The reasoning is added after the fact to justify the read.

For what it's worth I didn't really get this impression

Maybe I'm missing context from the monastery, but based on what has been posted in the thread, that's what it looks like to me.