Mini Normal 2271 - Game Over

[humaneatingmonkey]

so i'm not a vigilante

[humaneatingmonkey]

i'm back btw, project is done. i'll start re-reading later, i just need to get some sleep.

[KittyTacky]

I'm sorry Italiano but you shouldn't have pushed NK15 after the claim. That's just sus amogus.

Well I still think there's at least one scum between HEM and Mala.

[humaneatingmonkey]

based on?

[Roden]

VOTE: Malcolm

[MalcolmTucker]

I'm sorry Italiano but you shouldn't have pushed NK15 after the claim. That's just sus amogus.

Well I still think there's at least one scum between HEM and Mala.

Once again I outlined during D3 why a vote on Italiano didn't make sense. You continue to take the lowest hanging fruit and use that to justify your vote but this is the second time it's seen you eliminate a townie. I think you're obvious mafia at this point.

VOTE: KittyTacky

[MalcolmTucker]

For me the team is now Kitty-HEM, with Math potentially as backup choice but I may have been reaching there on D3 with my reads. HEM was essentially able to ride out that turn but basically just came back without reading the game again to eliminate another townie.

[MalcolmTucker]

Scorpious have you pocketed me?

Surely Scorpious cannot be the wagon for today.

Who’s here?

Let’s compromise people.

I’m not liking that wagon.

Okay let’s try this.

VOTE: NK15

That was such an unnecessary hammer.

Italiano has seemed suss for some of today but this was their reaction to the Scorpious wagon at the time. I'm not sure how beneficial it would have been for mafia to continue going for a claimed role player when a town wagon was right there...Scorpious was a bit of a rubbish wagon but it seemed reasonable enough at time to plenty that Italiano could have had cover joining it if they are mafia.

The other option is mafia deliberately chose to keep someone off the wagon as a misdirect on D2, before we obviously went for Andre. But if Italiano is faking and staying off the Scorpious wagon, knowing it could give them town-cred, why target NK15 instead? Plenty of other players they could vote for who hadn't claimed at all.

I outlined pretty clearly on D3 why Italiano was probably not mafia - on D1 it would have been perfectly reasonable for them to go onto the Scorpious wagon but they didn't do so because they clearly saw no benefit in it. Instead they stayed on an unhelpful wagon in the same way town Scorpious did. Some people were saying we should ignore D1 wagon because the info could be construed either but it's pretty clear in retrospect that it was a somewhat useful turn: we should absolutely be looking at the players here who have continually eliminated townies, and who have also been content to ignore all the tells and signals indicating said players were town because they regarded it as a very easy mafia push.

[MalcolmTucker]

VOTE: Malcolm

What makes you look at the voting patterns so far and make you think I am mafia? Why do I sit off both the Scorpious and Italiano wagon, making a strong defence for both? I was defending Jackson as town from as soon as they made their claim because it should have been pretty obvious in retrospect that they were town. If you are town you should be looking at Kitty or HEM here, unless you have an alternative idea at all.

[humaneatingmonkey]

VOTE: Malcolm

What makes you look at the voting patterns so far and make you think I am mafia? Why do I sit off both the Scorpious and Italiano wagon, making a strong defence for both? I was defending Jackson as town from as soon as they made their claim because it should have been pretty obvious in retrospect that they were town. If you are town you should be looking at Kitty or HEM here, unless you have an alternative idea at all.

mafia deliberately chose to keep someone off the wagon as a misdirect on D2

lol

[humaneatingmonkey]

scum really likes ratting themselves out don't they

VOTE: MalcolmTucker

[humaneatingmonkey]

HEM was essentially able to ride out that turn but basically just came back without reading the game again to eliminate another townie.

blatant misrep

[MalcolmTucker]

Probably best for me to role reveal with two votes on me - I'm Town Simple Jailkeeper. Will be eliminated tonight given that I imagine but we can at least focus in on where scum is likely to be.

[MalcolmTucker]

HEM was essentially able to ride out that turn but basically just came back without reading the game again to eliminate another townie.

blatant misrep

That's twice you've hammered vanilla townies now. You saved your skin by saying you needed more time then just came back in and voted out the most popular choice, someone who'd stayed off the D1 wagon when it would have been convenient for them to join it.

[MalcolmTucker]

I don't know how anyone can look at the voting patterns so far and I think I am anything resembling mafia, HEM essentially forcing the role reveal there is suspect.

[humaneatingmonkey]

show us your results

[humaneatingmonkey]

HEM essentially forcing the role reveal there is suspect

lol i didnt make you do anything you claimed jailkeeper yourself

[MalcolmTucker]

HEM essentially forcing the role reveal there is suspect

lol i didnt make you do anything you claimed jailkeeper yourself

We're down to seven players which basically put me at E-2. If mafia want to force it through that could have left me at E-1 very quickly. You would have known this when voting for me.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Ah then you admit I'm not mafia

[humaneatingmonkey]

Results please

A simple jailkeeper in a world where a gunsmith and tracker already exists and then claiming preemptively with a dash of shade. nope not suspicious at all.

[MalcolmTucker]

show us your results

I tried Kitty D1 and D2 but nothing. In retrospect I imagine someone else perhaps took on the kill, I'd just reckoned at the time Kitty may have been more likely to carry it out than someone like yourself for example.

I tried Math D3 out of interest but nothing there either. Should have probably gone for you in retrospect but ah well, happy with eliminating either you or Kitty this turn at the moment unless I can somehow be convinced of an alternative wagon on someone who's received less attention.

[MalcolmTucker]

Ah then you admit I'm not mafia

I'm not admitting that at all?

[humaneatingmonkey]

If in your imagined world, two mafia could have quickhammered you so you claimed... then what does that say about me.

[MalcolmTucker]

Results please

A simple jailkeeper in a world where a gunsmith and tracker already exists and then claiming preemptively with a dash of shade. nope not suspicious at all.

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We've had multiple preemptive claims this game. A claim when I'm on E-2 is not preemptive. I'll be busy at points today, how am I meant to guarantee I'm not automatically eliminated without a chance to claim or assert my case?

[humaneatingmonkey]

unless I can somehow be convinced of an alternative wagon on someone who's received less attention.

hahaha scuuuum