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Post Post #3125 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2022 8:28 am

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@Cassowary - idk, after waiting a day, out of all the people, I don’t think it’s you right now.

My thing is based on wagon composition of how Catboi can’t get past 6 votes, it means his scum are refusing to bus.

The other scum team like won’t do more than 1 or 2 on them at a time, so it gets stuck when those scum move, giving some merit to Mega/Toog scum.



SCP, Catboi, Menalque, Mastina contain scum. Anytime that Catboi gets momentum going, one of them always change votes.

This in addition the wagon composition reading.

At this point Catboi isn’t even my main scum read, but they are the best Day 1 fade based on high chance of flipping scum and info.

Catboi will have a townie and genuine tone as scum. They just will, and I imagine it’s even more evident in early games from the game talked about where Menalque town read Catboi all game before reevaluating late.
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Post Post #3126 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2022 8:28 am

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In post 3122, Flavor Leaf wrote:This is obvtown Nashville by the way.

They’re forcing themselves to read and act because they’re under fire.

I really don’t believe ScumNashville would have just been so unaware, even if they were busy.

I called their posting that everyone was pushing earlier scummy looking but that it’s not coming from scum.
I don't see why that makes them town.
In post 3123, Flavor Leaf wrote:You guys want something spicy.

I actually think Mastina has more chance at flipping scum than Catboi does.
I agree, although it is somewhat spicy coming from you, since it seemed like your mastina read originated based on your catboi read. You think it's possible now that mastina is scum while catboi is town?
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Post Post #3127 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2022 8:30 am

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I have to pee and i have cat in my lap.

if i get up I'm obv scum because why would u disturb a sleeping kitty in the lap
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Post Post #3128 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2022 8:32 am

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I don’t care to fade in my monkery because even if they are scum, they can push the other scum.

I don’t care to fade Menalque really, but that’s more just confidence in reading them as the day goes on.

Catboi/Mastina have legitimate scum play.

Catboi didn’t scum read me until after Well Done gave me heat, and I began pushing Mastina.

Mastina’s reasonings are poor, and the fact nobody responded to me calling out Mastina’s poor case calling what was actively not a gambit a gambit is scummy in itself.

She was high focused on setting herself up making sure we knew certain things when Catboi “inevitably flips town”

Mastina did not read Catboi as town, she chose to position him as town, and made sure the game knew that
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Post Post #3129 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2022 8:34 am

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In post 3126, butterchurn wrote:
In post 3122, Flavor Leaf wrote:This is obvtown Nashville by the way.

They’re forcing themselves to read and act because they’re under fire.

I really don’t believe ScumNashville would have just been so unaware, even if they were busy.

I called their posting that everyone was pushing earlier scummy looking but that it’s not coming from scum.
I don't see why that makes them town.
In post 3123, Flavor Leaf wrote:You guys want something spicy.

I actually think Mastina has more chance at flipping scum than Catboi does.
I agree, although it is somewhat spicy coming from you, since it seemed like your mastina read originated based on your catboi read. You think it's possible now that mastina is scum while catboi is town?
Yes, it’s possible Mastina is not partners with Catboi, and is actively just choosing to position there.

Mastina pushes me as scum in near 100% of the games.

Only time she didn’t was when I was scum and then town.


Titus and Mastina ganged up on me once and power misfaded me once. I think they were both town.

I am one of the most familiar players with Titus here, and this is not Titus scum.

Generally when I get these type of reads on Titus, it’s possible I’m pocketed, but they’ve done absolutely nothing to pocket me here.

That in itself is a sign that Titus is not scum.
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Post Post #3130 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2022 8:34 am

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In post 1573, Wallflower wrote:This feels so much like manipulative AtE to me, I don’t think I can handle it
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Post Post #3131 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2022 8:35 am

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Maybe the cat is scum
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Post Post #3132 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2022 8:36 am

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Titus actively went against me early, and i against them.

That only happens when we’re town.

This one I know is a bit rough for others to take in, but Nashville is actively being used as the compromise wagon.

They began as a compromise wagon, steam stalled everywhere, and now because nothing else is going through, people are going there, like they’re trying to end the day with Nashville.
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Post Post #3133 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2022 8:37 am

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In post 3130, Nashville Dreams wrote:
In post 1573, Wallflower wrote:This feels so much like manipulative AtE to me, I don’t think I can handle it
what
Catboi has been making manipulative posts all game, and the way they do it gets people to tone town read them, but when you actually look at what Catboi says, it’s not townie.

Go look at the way he was interacting with WallFlower last night.
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Post Post #3134 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2022 8:38 am

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In post 1637, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1635, catboi wrote:
In post 1631, Flavor Leaf wrote:Interested in Catboi's take on Nashville considering that's one of their other big defenders.
Titus felt off but Mala had more energy than I'd expect from her as scum, haven't seen any of their more recent posts (at work and tabbing in and out).

Mala's a former DC, why do you think she can't adapt to that? feel free to answer later, ofc.
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Post Post #3135 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2022 8:40 am

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In post 3129, Flavor Leaf wrote: Titus and Mastina ganged up on me once and power misfaded me once. I think they were both town.

I am one of the most familiar players with Titus here, and this is not Titus scum.

Generally when I get these type of reads on Titus, it’s possible I’m pocketed, but they’ve done absolutely nothing to pocket me here.

That in itself is a sign that Titus is not scum.
In post 3132, Flavor Leaf wrote:Titus actively went against me early, and i against them.

That only happens when we’re town.
You've talked multiple times about how you recently were in a game where Titus pocketed you. She's definitely aware that you know about this and will be looking out for it. You think it's impossible that she went out of her way to play counter to your expectations of what she does as scum? My understanding was that Titus was a pretty strong scum player who would think about that type of thing.
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Post Post #3136 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2022 8:40 am

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omg can we please end the day alreadyyyyy
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Post Post #3137 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2022 8:42 am

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In post 3136, Menalque wrote:omg can we please end the day alreadyyyyy
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Post Post #3138 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2022 8:42 am

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Flavor, this pre-flip associative shit you’re doing is kinda terrible if it starts from a flawed beginning and then you try to play your entire game off it

Pls stop and think again if ur town
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Post Post #3139 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2022 8:43 am

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In post 3136, Menalque wrote:omg can we please end the day alreadyyyyy
You're currently voting tictac as the only vote on them.
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Post Post #3140 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2022 8:45 am

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In post 3138, Menalque wrote:Flavor, this pre-flip associative shit you’re doing is kinda terrible if it starts from a flawed beginning and then you try to play your entire game off it

Pls stop and think again if ur town
Mastina and Catboi are individualized reads with possible pre-flip, dont minimize, and I've had a lot of success with doing stuff, and have caught more scum than the majority of players on site.
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Post Post #3141 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2022 8:46 am

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In post 3135, butterchurn wrote:
In post 3129, Flavor Leaf wrote: Titus and Mastina ganged up on me once and power misfaded me once. I think they were both town.

I am one of the most familiar players with Titus here, and this is not Titus scum.

Generally when I get these type of reads on Titus, it’s possible I’m pocketed, but they’ve done absolutely nothing to pocket me here.

That in itself is a sign that Titus is not scum.
In post 3132, Flavor Leaf wrote:Titus actively went against me early, and i against them.

That only happens when we’re town.
You've talked multiple times about how you recently were in a game where Titus pocketed you. She's definitely aware that you know about this and will be looking out for it. You think it's impossible that she went out of her way to play counter to your expectations of what she does as scum? My understanding was that Titus was a pretty strong scum player who would think about that type of thing.
The opposite--I think she would think about that type of thing.

And I absolutely don't believe she has thought about it this game.
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Post Post #3142 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2022 8:47 am

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In post 3138, Menalque wrote:Flavor, this pre-flip associative shit you’re doing is kinda terrible if it starts from a flawed beginning and then you try to play your entire game off it

Pls stop and think again if ur town
Same to you with your Catboi defense.
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Post Post #3143 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2022 8:48 am

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In post 3141, Flavor Leaf wrote:The opposite--I think she would think about that type of thing.

And I absolutely don't believe she has thought about it this game.
Why are you confident that she hasn't thought about it this game, if you think that typically she does think about that type of thing? The game where she pocketed you recently finished, correct? So it should still be freshest in both of your minds. Now seems like the time when it would be most likely that she would alter her play based on that.
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Post Post #3144 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2022 8:50 am

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In post 3143, butterchurn wrote:
In post 3141, Flavor Leaf wrote:The opposite--I think she would think about that type of thing.

And I absolutely don't believe she has thought about it this game.
Why are you confident that she hasn't thought about it this game, if you think that typically she does think about that type of thing? The game where she pocketed you recently finished, correct? So it should still be freshest in both of your minds. Now seems like the time when it would be most likely that she would alter her play based on that.

Because she hasn't taken ANY type of action.

In that game, I called out that I was deep in a pocket. I knew I was being pocketed, and I was able to call out the ways I was being pocketed.

Just like I have done here when Catboi was trying to pocket me early.
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Post Post #3145 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2022 8:50 am

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In post 1726, MonkeyMan576 wrote:seems like an unfair advantage if you ask me.
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almost sounds like..............

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Post Post #3146 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2022 8:51 am

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In post 3143, butterchurn wrote:
In post 3141, Flavor Leaf wrote:The opposite--I think she would think about that type of thing.

And I absolutely don't believe she has thought about it this game.
Why are you confident that she hasn't thought about it this game, if you think that typically she does think about that type of thing? The game where she pocketed you recently finished, correct? So it should still be freshest in both of your minds. Now seems like the time when it would be most likely that she would alter her play based on that.
If she were scum, sure, she would alter. This was not an altered game because she's not scum, and you can see absolutely zero types of action.

Titus is one of the players who does things as scum, and she just hasn't done anything. Her making awkward posts come from her trying to play the game while not being in it fully which is townTitus trying to help town, not scum titus trying to help scum.
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Post Post #3147 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2022 8:53 am

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ITT: players throwing shit at low content lurkers to see if it sticks.
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Post Post #3148 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2022 8:54 am

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Post Post #3149 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2022 8:56 am

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In post 3042, Toogeloo wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: Nashville Dreams

I am just trying to end the day, but I can't in good conscious elim catboi here.
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