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Post Post #3200 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2022 9:31 am

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Does Pooky have a history of replacing out as scum?
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Post Post #3201 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2022 9:31 am

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In post 3198, SCP 682 wrote:
In post 3190, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 3187, SCP 682 wrote:ok idc i want enchant dead and thats the only wagon im considering if not MegA atp

I want a scummy lurker yeeted. Its the optimal play.
D1 info lims are cringe when we have mechs to resolve info.
so wrong
I have had a decent streak of burying scum d1 in recent towngames bar a couple misses. Especially in multiball.

also this relies on you being town
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Post Post #3202 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2022 9:32 am

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In post 3159, Nashville Dreams wrote:
In post 3157, catboi wrote:
In post 3097, Nashville Dreams wrote:
In post 1115, cassowary wrote:In post 1102, Sword of Ducks wrote:
One game town with the same exact role, two games I played poorly as mafia, and one fantastic role madness game as a serial killer.

Just to be clear, you're claiming you've rolled vanilla townie in this game?
Well this is super fucking scummy. Like hardcore.
...why?
Give you a hint:

Use a line
Yeah I still don't know what this means, can you give more of a hint :/

For context, the game SoD was referring to was a game with no power roles, so I wanted to make sure of what he meant by "the same role". Plus, I guess I didn't see the advantage in holding on to the info about his role privately since he had basically already claimed and had already hinted at being vanilla. Better to have the info out there unambiguously publicly so he'd be locked into this early game claim and if I died/left the info wouldn't die with me. (well I guess bnuuy would know as well but idk if I can trust him!)

Maybe that was a bad play (oops?), but I don't really see why it's
scummy
per se. Like, I already knew his role, how would publicly outing it benefit me as scum? Wouldn't scum want to hang onto that info secretly and use it to their advantage? idgi
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Post Post #3203 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2022 9:32 am

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In post 3200, MonkeyMan576 wrote:Does Pooky have a history of replacing out as scum?
pooky replaces out when he doesnt get his way/getting beat in 1v1 situations
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Post Post #3204 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2022 9:32 am

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In post 3203, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 3200, MonkeyMan576 wrote:Does Pooky have a history of replacing out as scum?
pooky replaces out when he doesnt get his way/getting beat in 1v1 situations
I'd say the replace out itself is NAI.
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Post Post #3205 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2022 9:33 am

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I dont think we should discuss replacements personaly
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Post Post #3206 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2022 9:33 am

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Why not it's part of the game record.
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Post Post #3207 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2022 9:34 am

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In post 3205, SCP 682 wrote:I dont think we should discuss replacements personaly
scale of 1 to 10 how much do you think i care what you think we should discuss.

So fitting it just happens to be on your slot.

And this makes absolutely no sense after I had just stated it's NAI for Pooky replacing out.
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Post Post #3208 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2022 9:35 am

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In post 3201, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 3198, SCP 682 wrote:
In post 3190, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 3187, SCP 682 wrote:ok idc i want enchant dead and thats the only wagon im considering if not MegA atp

I want a scummy lurker yeeted. Its the optimal play.
D1 info lims are cringe when we have mechs to resolve info.
so wrong
I have had a decent streak of burying scum d1 in recent towngames bar a couple misses. Especially in multiball.

also this relies on you being town
The only situation im not pushing to kill scum is me as malefactor

If I'm scum i literally have a semi masonry with 4 people who cant be wolves + 1-2 more in our monastery who are deconfirmed. If you're thinking im mafia-im very fucking likely to deliver you scum d1.
Start using critical thinking and not your ego please.
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Post Post #3209 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2022 9:36 am

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SCP is trying to keep getting me to say where the cop should check.

First they stated I should tell the cop to check me.

Now they was trying to get me to say STD should be cop checked, before I said idc where cop checks.

Now they saying they'll say it before eod for cop to be on STD.


They're also telling STD that since it's wild in there, "dont worry, just talk to me STD"
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Post Post #3210 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2022 9:36 am

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Sorry 3 people who cant be mafia*
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Post Post #3211 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2022 9:36 am

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In post 3107, cassowary wrote:I don't really understand the FL claim (why does he have to be mafia if scum? help) but if people don't want to get rid of him today for reasons I think that's fine. Not sure I really buy him as town, but if the wagon isn't going to gain traction I think there are other places we can look.
@cassowary:
monks are mod-confirmed to not be wolves to each other
In post 3107, cassowary wrote:Yeah, getting this same vibe from both catboi+FL here. I know it's D1, but surely there's stuff within the game we can point to to support reads. Some of the reasoning on display feels inaccessible towards those of us who don't have meta experience with most of you, and it kind of makes me feel mistrustful of the reads that result since it feels a little bit like "oh this person doesn't normally act like this, just trust me" which is weird.
I mean I've tried to make it understandable within the context of this game but sometimes it's hard to explain without an understanding of how someone operates
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Post Post #3212 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2022 9:37 am

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In post 3208, SCP 682 wrote:
In post 3201, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 3198, SCP 682 wrote:
In post 3190, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 3187, SCP 682 wrote:ok idc i want enchant dead and thats the only wagon im considering if not MegA atp

I want a scummy lurker yeeted. Its the optimal play.
D1 info lims are cringe when we have mechs to resolve info.
so wrong
I have had a decent streak of burying scum d1 in recent towngames bar a couple misses. Especially in multiball.

also this relies on you being town
The only situation im not pushing to kill scum is me as malefactor

If I'm scum i literally have a semi masonry with 4 people who cant be wolves + 1-2 more in our monastery who are deconfirmed. If you're thinking im mafia-im very fucking likely to deliver you scum d1.
Start using critical thinking and not your ego please.

That requires you to read correctly and care about flipping a wolf.

Scum dont have to flip scum.
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Post Post #3213 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2022 9:37 am

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In post 3210, SCP 682 wrote:Sorry 3 people who cant be mafia*

it's 2.
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Post Post #3214 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2022 9:37 am

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In post 3213, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 3210, SCP 682 wrote:Sorry 3 people who cant be mafia*

it's 2.

dont count yourself in a situation where you have to read a slot
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Post Post #3215 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2022 9:38 am

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is this how insufferable it felt like to be in a game with me when i used to be like this lol
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Post Post #3216 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2022 9:40 am

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In post 3122, Flavor Leaf wrote:This is obvtown Nashville by the way.

They’re forcing themselves to read and act because they’re under fire.

I really don’t believe ScumNashville would have just been so unaware, even if they were busy.


I called their posting that everyone was pushing earlier scummy looking but that it’s not coming from scum.
That is a flawed assumption given recent games
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Post Post #3217 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2022 9:42 am

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In post 3215, SCP 682 wrote:is this how insufferable it felt like to be in a game with me when i used to be like this lol

used to be?

Half of me is doing this on purpose mirroring you.
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Post Post #3218 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2022 9:42 am

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In post 3125, Flavor Leaf wrote:@Cassowary - idk, after waiting a day, out of all the people, I don’t think it’s you right now.

My thing is based on wagon composition of how Catboi can’t get past 6 votes, it means his scum are refusing to bus.

The other scum team like won’t do more than 1 or 2 on them at a time, so it gets stuck when those scum move, giving some merit to Mega/Toog scum.



SCP, Catboi, Menalque, Mastina contain scum. Anytime that Catboi gets momentum going, one of them always change votes.

This in addition the wagon composition reading.

At this point Catboi isn’t even my main scum read, but they are the best Day 1 fade based on high chance of flipping scum and info.

Catboi will have a townie and genuine tone as scum. They just will, and I imagine it’s even more evident in early games from the game talked about where Menalque town read Catboi all game before reevaluating late.
I can't help but feel that FL is like

inverting what his actual reads are

misreading me I could see but the reads on menalque/mastina are patently ridiculous
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Post Post #3219 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2022 9:43 am

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In post 3216, catboi wrote:
In post 3122, Flavor Leaf wrote:This is obvtown Nashville by the way.

They’re forcing themselves to read and act because they’re under fire.

I really don’t believe ScumNashville would have just been so unaware, even if they were busy.


I called their posting that everyone was pushing earlier scummy looking but that it’s not coming from scum.
That is a flawed assumption given recent games
Disagree.
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Post Post #3220 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2022 9:43 am

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In post 3218, catboi wrote:
In post 3125, Flavor Leaf wrote:@Cassowary - idk, after waiting a day, out of all the people, I don’t think it’s you right now.

My thing is based on wagon composition of how Catboi can’t get past 6 votes, it means his scum are refusing to bus.

The other scum team like won’t do more than 1 or 2 on them at a time, so it gets stuck when those scum move, giving some merit to Mega/Toog scum.



SCP, Catboi, Menalque, Mastina contain scum. Anytime that Catboi gets momentum going, one of them always change votes.

This in addition the wagon composition reading.

At this point Catboi isn’t even my main scum read, but they are the best Day 1 fade based on high chance of flipping scum and info.

Catboi will have a townie and genuine tone as scum. They just will, and I imagine it’s even more evident in early games from the game talked about where Menalque town read Catboi all game before reevaluating late.
I can't help but feel that FL is like

inverting what his actual reads are

misreading me I could see but the reads on menalque/mastina are patently ridiculous
I said I think Menalque is town, so what's ridiculous about it?

Sorry you're not strong enough a player to read Mastina then
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Post Post #3221 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2022 9:44 am

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My salt level raised to an all time high after SPC got in the game.
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Post Post #3222 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2022 9:44 am

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spirit of pooky please infuse me with the strength to push through this nonsense
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Post Post #3223 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2022 9:44 am

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In post 3128, Flavor Leaf wrote:Mastina’s reasonings are poor, and the fact nobody responded to me calling out Mastina’s poor case calling what was actively not a gambit a gambit is scummy in itself.
The thing is even if you think her reasoning is poor

t's hardly scum-indicative

because she frequently has reasoning that other people have trouble understanding but it doesn't make her scum. And I'd expect you would know that
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Post Post #3224 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2022 9:45 am

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In post 3195, Flavor Leaf wrote:Catboi-Menalque-SCP-Mastina


i've been saying it for a while now, there is 100% scum in here, and I don't believe it's Menalque.

I said I don't believe it's Menalque, I guess, not straight up town.
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