Not Quite Normal Multiball II (Game Over)

[catboi]

Catboi has been making manipulative posts all game, and the way they do it gets people to tone town read them, but when you actually look at what Catboi says, it’s not townie.

That's a mirror

[SCP 682]

collective pact to completely ignore FL till day 2

[SCP 682]

quote if ur in

[Flavor Leaf]

Mastina’s reasonings are poor, and the fact nobody responded to me calling out Mastina’s poor case calling what was actively not a gambit a gambit is scummy in itself.

The thing is even if you think her reasoning is poor

t's hardly scum-indicative

because she frequently has reasoning that other people have trouble understanding but it doesn't make her scum. And I'd expect you would know that

Ah, man. Disagree.

You act like I have trouble understanding her which is completely untrue.

I understand Mastina more than anyone else in this game. She wouldn't say so, but I know for a fact it's true.

It's reasons like that I was able to break Mastina when I was in a 1v1 with her hard, and she was defending JJH, and calling me Town who was tunneled incorrectly onto Jjh.

JJH was my scum partner I guiltied.

So you saying I have trouble understanding her is factually incorrect. Mastina and I have no personal connection with each other, and it's 100% based on actual playstyle and mafilosophy that I know about her.

[Flavor Leaf]

collective pact to completely ignore FL till day 2

seriously shut the fuck up.

[The Keeper]

Why not it's part of the game record.

Because its out of game influence for one, secondly most assumptions are wrong, thirdly a slot can replace for any reason and looking for consistency/alignment information from an active slot that decided to use a Clicker is like thinking the Clicker is a good item to start with.

[Flavor Leaf]

You're the fucking reason I'm salty.

[SCP 682]

anyways. I want to go into megA when i get home. Had a long bullshit day at work so yep

[MonkeyMan576]

I think you both need a timout.

[Flavor Leaf]

collective pact to completely ignore FL till day 2

And it's because you do fucking shit like this.

You come into this game, scum read all my town reads, town read all my scum reads, completely take over the game, shut me down constantly, pair up with me for a split second, then go "NEVERMIND FUCK FL"


And then you act like it's all on me.

And i truly believe you're ignorant to all that and what your actions do to me.

[Flavor Leaf]

Like you dont even fucking care.

But god forbid flavor does any fucking thing about it

Ignore Flavor fuck flavor

[MonkeyMan576]

Why not it's part of the game record.

Because its out of game influence for one, secondly most assumptions are wrong, thirdly a slot can replace for any reason and looking for consistency/alignment information from an active slot that decided to use a Clicker is like thinking the Clicker is a good item to start with.

This sounds like a reason to give a scummy replace out a free pass.

[SCP 682]

I just want to have a conversation without being derailed constantly by manipulative stuff

[Flavor Leaf]

Catboi has been making manipulative posts all game, and the way they do it gets people to tone town read them, but when you actually look at what Catboi says, it’s not townie.

That's a mirror

I hardcore disagree that my tone is anything people do to town read me.

What a fucking twisting of it.

[SCP 682]

I probably worded it wrong but its like moreso "stop getting drawn into interacting with FL and interact with other people bc FL has drowned the game with their self centered attitude"

[Flavor Leaf]

I just want to have a conversation without being derailed constantly by manipulative stuff

you're the one thats fucking manipulative.

I've done absolutely nothing to be manipulative here.

I've been actively pushing Catboi.

You're actively fucking telling me what to post in game thread in the monkery.

You're actively telling people to shut me out

You're actively telling STD to only talk to you in the monkery.

You line up with me to get me hyped and immediately go back.

I am not doing shit thats manipulative here

[catboi]

This is all Catboi making sure people don't take Pooky's reads seriously.

This is all fine and dandy, i think what they're saying is truthful, however, this was completely unprompted. Why would anyone be taking what TB/Pooky said seriously? They didn't even have a case, something I stated in my monkery at the time, saying maybe TB should say their reasons because I didn't know what their specific reasons were.


I had specifically called out TB already that if they were correct with their scum reads, their main one being Catboi, it had more to do with luck than skill.

And this is exactly what Mastina called out as being a 'slip' by me.

However, Catboi essentially says the same thing, but Mastina actively put Catboi the top of her list.

Terrible framing. Here's what was actually said:

he's alrdy slipping that I'm right by saying i'm right by luck rather than skill
if you like actually read his comment and think about what it means lol

For the record I hard-agree with this sentiment on FL being scum for the reasons given, too.

(Also, I realize that there's a

lot

of pages to read and I won't be able to read them all tonight, unfortunately. But, I figure that the pages are commentary-worthy-lite, as in, they won't have much that I need to actually comment on, and even-lighter-changes-in-reads-containing, as in, the content won't affect my reads in any significant way by and large.

I still DO need to read it tho, just in case there's content within which

does

shift my reads. I just can't do it tonight because it's 5 am.)

1. it was pooky who said you were slipping, mastina echoed it
2. i never accused pooky of

being right

I accused him of makign reads out of

wanting people to be scum

- the difference is at no point did I suggest he got lucky. It's disingenuous to act like we were saying the exact same thing here

[The Keeper]

Why not it's part of the game record.

Because its out of game influence for one, secondly most assumptions are wrong, thirdly a slot can replace for any reason and looking for consistency/alignment information from an active slot that decided to use a Clicker is like thinking the Clicker is a good item to start with.

This sounds like a reason to give a scummy replace out a free pass.

As scummy as someone looking to paint someone as scum for something entirely NAI?

Reasons I've replaced out of games: Mental Health, Physical health, no interest in the game, no interest in a particular player, family issues, brain fog.

[Flavor Leaf]

1. it was pooky who said you were slipping, mastina echoed it

This means nothing.

Echoing is still saying it.

[catboi]

Go back and check Catboi, they're only doing that "why" shit to the slots who've defended them.

also not even true

[Flavor Leaf]

2. i never accused pooky of being right I accused him of makign reads out of wanting people to be scum - the difference is at no point did I suggest he got lucky. It's disingenuous to act like we were saying the exact same thing here

And yet, I got pushed as scummy for doing the exact same thing, yet you dont seem to care about that one by Mastina.


Sorry, you're wrong here. And I guess it's possible you're pocketed by mastina, that was definitely her intention if you two are not aligned.

I'm more confident in Mastina Scum than You Scum even.

[Flavor Leaf]

Go back and check Catboi, they're only doing that "why" shit to the slots who've defended them.

also not even true

yeah probs not

[Wallflower]

It’s true that FL posts too much and I’m not 100% sure they are town but I do feel like they’ve added a lot of valuable insights to the game in between all the extra fluff and so I would agree with FL that it is unreasonable to shut them out in such a way.

[SCP 682]

Whatever.

[catboi]

can we please just kill enchant

i beg everyone that is the most obvious read and anyone caught resisting is either just loltowning or scum its that simple

you're gonna have to start canvassing people to mak it happen