Not Quite Normal Multiball II (Game Over)

[Menalque]

enchant has too much entertainment value for me to ever want to kill them before it really becomes necessary

[Flavor Leaf]

Your malefactor af, Menalque.

[Flavor Leaf]

youre*

eww

[Menalque]

if your name is:

Nashville; bnuuy; the keeper; SoD; tictac; toogs; meg; malc

either stop your vanity vote and get on board with a proper wagon or make a vote for a wagon if you're currently not voting

(NB: yes, I'm giving enchant a pass here because we all know they are essentially voting everyone all the time)

[Flavor Leaf]

I really don’t see what WallFlower was doing besides pushing Catboi

doesn't matter, her thoughts around catboi are incredibly pure

I can towncase her later/tomo if I need to but I think very strongly that she is town

Like, this completely.

WallFlower's thoughts around Catboi are completely pure, and Catboi is over here acting like they're doing this wtf push specifically to aggravate them?

[Menalque]

You're malefactor af, Menalque.

[butterchurn]

I believe Nashville is hard town through wagonomics + my actual read + not thinking the scum case on them at all makes them scum.

None of the arguments for why Nashville is town have done much of anything for me, I don't think they really hold any water. The wagon argument has already been disproven, and you said yourself your post on it wasn't very good, so I'm not sure why you're bringing it up as an argument again.

[cassowary]

I could go for bnuuy elimination today as well

nice do it please

Yeah ok

VOTE: bnuuy

I am not liking cassowary ftr. First he is on the Nashville wagon and now he's willing to hop over to a bnuuy wagon, pun intended.

(she)

I mean, I'd rather get rid of someone than have a no-elimination, and I think ND and bnuuy both look kinda sus, what's the issue?

[SCP 682]

After some thought.
Meltdowns are like strictly town indicative
not feeling catboi today at all

[SCP 682]

After some thought.
Meltdowns are like strictly town indicative
not feeling catboi today at all

[Flavor Leaf]

I don't find that bnuuy's latest posts are out of the range of what I would expect them to do if they were scum here. The wagon feels like it fell apart a little quickly. Maybe just because I was raised in the mafia of an earlier time, but I tend to have more inertia than is typical on this site these days. It takes me longer to turn towards scumreading or voting someone, and once I do, it takes me longer to turn away. These sorts of speed wagons rising up and falling away are not really something that's familiar to me. It feels closer to chat mafia at times. Which is not always a bad thing, but it may mean that I should be relying a bit more on gut reads. I agree with Menalque, though, that there's no point in wagoning for pressure if the pressure drops away at the slightest hint of a towny response. This makes me feel like some of the people riding the wave of the wagon didn't genuinely want it to go through, and were just waiting for an excuse to jump back off.

I think the wagon was super scummy. Makes bnuuy lock town and catboi or wallflower likely scum.

I think Menalque just lives in Catboi's pocket, and did what he could to get pressure off of catboi. I think Menalque jumped in by themselves, for the most part.

Menalque's see my towngame and my scumgame, and this isn't my scumgame.

I don't find that bnuuy's latest posts are out of the range of what I would expect them to do if they were scum here. The wagon feels like it fell apart a little quickly. Maybe just because I was raised in the mafia of an earlier time, but I tend to have more inertia than is typical on this site these days. It takes me longer to turn towards scumreading or voting someone, and once I do, it takes me longer to turn away. These sorts of speed wagons rising up and falling away are not really something that's familiar to me. It feels closer to chat mafia at times. Which is not always a bad thing, but it may mean that I should be relying a bit more on gut reads. I agree with Menalque, though, that there's no point in wagoning for pressure if the pressure drops away at the slightest hint of a towny response. This makes me feel like some of the people riding the wave of the wagon didn't genuinely want it to go through, and were just waiting for an excuse to jump back off.

I think the wagon was super scummy. Makes bnuuy lock town and catboi or wallflower likely scum.

I think Menalque just lives in Catboi's pocket, and did what he could to get pressure off of catboi. I think Menalque jumped in by themselves, for the most part.

Menalque's see my towngame and my scumgame, and this isn't my scumgame.

how many times has he caught scum you?

He hard guiltied me in one of the games I lost last year, I would've been primed to go the distance if he hadn't re-evaluated on me. I took a gamble that he wouldn't investigate me and lost.

Was scum with me in my last game where I basically sobbed and AtE'd my way out of pressure all game

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this is another pairing that I've been bringing up to case Catboi.

They tried to use Menalque as being able to read them since they know town and scum them, but then after I pressured on how many times has he caught scum him, he brought up Menalque town reading Catboi early for days on end, and then reevaluating scum him, meaning that Catboi knows that Menalque has the capabilities of town reading him as scum, especially early game yet he still tried to use this as a defense reasoning.

in addition to the case here, Catboi specifically states that they "sobbed and AtE'd his way out of pressure all game"

[Menalque]

I really don’t see what WallFlower was doing besides pushing Catboi

doesn't matter, her thoughts around catboi are incredibly pure

I can towncase her later/tomo if I need to but I think very strongly that she is town

Like, this completely.

WallFlower's thoughts around Catboi are completely pure, and Catboi is over here acting like they're doing this wtf push specifically to aggravate them?

the one being town does not equal the other being scum and I think catboi has already been pushed into tilt-y behaviour this game that increases the odds of him misreading it if town

[MonkeyMan576]

Which wagon argument, that there are scummy people on Nashville's wagon? What's been disproven about it?

[Ydrasse]

IM malefactor

[Flavor Leaf]

After some thought.
Meltdowns are like strictly town indicative
not feeling catboi today at all

the exact thing Catboi has claimed they did before specifically as scum? alright cool.

[Menalque]

IM malefactor

liar

[Menalque]

wait, fuck

[butterchurn]

I'll join bnuuy if Nashville isn't going to go through, but I really think we're letting Nashville scum slip away for no good reason at all.

[Flavor Leaf]

I really don’t see what WallFlower was doing besides pushing Catboi

doesn't matter, her thoughts around catboi are incredibly pure

I can towncase her later/tomo if I need to but I think very strongly that she is town

Like, this completely.

WallFlower's thoughts around Catboi are completely pure, and Catboi is over here acting like they're doing this wtf push specifically to aggravate them?

the one being town does not equal the other being scum and I think catboi has already been pushed into tilt-y behaviour this game that increases the odds of him misreading it if town

Disagree.

He isn't misreading.

[MonkeyMan576]

I could go for bnuuy elimination today as well

nice do it please

Yeah ok

VOTE: bnuuy

I am not liking cassowary ftr. First he is on the Nashville wagon and now he's willing to hop over to a bnuuy wagon, pun intended.

(she)

I mean, I'd rather get rid of someone than have a no-elimination, and I think ND and bnuuy both look kinda sus, what's the issue?

The fact that you're willing to elim someone just to elim is sus first of all. I don't think you really think they look sus except that they have had wagons against them.

[butterchurn]

Which wagon argument, that there are scummy people on Nashville's wagon? What's been disproven about it?

The argument basically was that too many people support the elimination for it to be scum. Which is ridiculous as you could make that argument for any elimination that goes through in a game this large. He'll probably say it again about bnuuy if that wagon continues to gain traction.

[Flavor Leaf]

People are protecting catboi because they like catboi, not because they actually believe he's town.

It's day 1.

Menalque, you actively have town read Catboi hard early.

There's like so much damning things people just dont wanna see it.

Post game, I will be proven correct, and thus I will continue pushing.

[Menalque]

The fact that you're willing to elim someone just to elim is sus first of all.

actually at this point it's v protown so long as it's not on an actual TR

[SCP 682]

After some thought.
Meltdowns are like strictly town indicative
not feeling catboi today at all

the exact thing Catboi has claimed they did before specifically as scum? alright cool.

Same reason i see you as town.

[Flavor Leaf]

Catboi LITERALLY stated that he used sobbing and AtE to win as scum, but people go "ohhhh he got upset!!! he's town"'


but if I do absolutely any fucking thing like that shit, they go "AtE, AtE, AtE!" yeah fucking right