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Post Post #4325 (ISO) » Tue May 03, 2022 12:02 pm

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In post 4322, butterchurn wrote:What makes you think I'm scum?
you were trying to start a lurker wagon after a 160+ d1, that shit was scummy as fuck.
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Post Post #4326 (ISO) » Tue May 03, 2022 12:03 pm

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In post 4325, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 4322, butterchurn wrote:What makes you think I'm scum?
you were trying to start a lurker wagon after a 160+ d1, that shit was scummy as fuck.

bro thats like 1/3 this game trying to start lurker wagons.
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Post Post #4327 (ISO) » Tue May 03, 2022 12:03 pm

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SCP is exclusively doing it
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Post Post #4328 (ISO) » Tue May 03, 2022 12:04 pm

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In post 4325, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 4322, butterchurn wrote:What makes you think I'm scum?
you were trying to start a lurker wagon after a 160+ d1, that shit was scummy as fuck.
I'm not the one trying to start a lurker wagon. You realize the tictac wagon started just before that, right? It was a vanity vote to express my suspicion, I wasn't ever planning to stay on it.
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Post Post #4329 (ISO) » Tue May 03, 2022 12:04 pm

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I've been vocally opposed to lurker wagons in general.
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Post Post #4330 (ISO) » Tue May 03, 2022 12:06 pm

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yes i start lurker wagons - why is it scummy (:
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Post Post #4331 (ISO) » Tue May 03, 2022 12:06 pm

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Yes, I am a lurker. Why is it scummy?
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Post Post #4332 (ISO) » Tue May 03, 2022 12:06 pm

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do you only push people who are active, Nero?

do game mods only rand people scum when they actively talk?
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Post Post #4333 (ISO) » Tue May 03, 2022 12:08 pm

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reminding me why I lurk as scum. out of sight out of mind

and then there are people who have takes like "don't push lurkers" which make me laugh and realize why I still haven't really abanadoned that meta.
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Post Post #4334 (ISO) » Tue May 03, 2022 12:10 pm

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Some players have a hard time formulating anything on Day 1, and they generally lurk because of it. but if you get to day 3, day 4, lurkers alignments are generally pretty obvious, so i always have felt it better to not fade lurkers day 1.


And that's an active skill and tactic you learned based on your reasoning for wanting to vote lurkers going unnoticed.

That tactic is directly pulled from you having experience as town in other games.


Nobody is saying there isn't scum in lurkers. There most definitely is.

But there's likely also scum in active players, so it's not posting exclusive.
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Post Post #4335 (ISO) » Tue May 03, 2022 12:11 pm

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In post 4332, SCP 682 wrote:do you only push people who are active, Nero?

do game mods only rand people scum when they actively talk?
Do game mods choose who gets what role?

Eliminating lurker is literally eliminating randomly.
We have enough actives that give information on their flips.
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Post Post #4336 (ISO) » Tue May 03, 2022 12:11 pm

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scum pushing lurkers is an ez push to hide behind and its odd considering that butterchurns top scumread was ND. Not a huge fan of his explanation
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Post Post #4337 (ISO) » Tue May 03, 2022 12:11 pm

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In post 4320, Nero Cain wrote:tictac is prob the days wagon and at 170 pages this day shouldn't go on much longer but wanted to put my vote on scum for the time being.

VOTE: butterchurn
Why don't you think butter and tictac can be scum together?
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Post Post #4338 (ISO) » Tue May 03, 2022 12:11 pm

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it's specifically on Day 1 which I believe you have a really rough outlook on day 1's in general which is why i dont follow your meta cases/lurker push mentality.
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Post Post #4339 (ISO) » Tue May 03, 2022 12:11 pm

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In post 4334, Flavor Leaf wrote:Some players have a hard time formulating anything on Day 1, and they generally lurk because of it. but if you get to day 3, day 4, lurkers alignments are generally pretty obvious, so i always have felt it better to not fade lurkers day 1.


And that's an active skill and tactic you learned based on your reasoning for wanting to vote lurkers going unnoticed.

That tactic is directly pulled from you having experience as town in other games.


Nobody is saying there isn't scum in lurkers. There most definitely is.

But there's likely also scum in active players, so it's not posting exclusive.
I'm rarely this active D1 even on main... well miffed. Basement1 is supposed to be relaxing.
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Post Post #4340 (ISO) » Tue May 03, 2022 12:12 pm

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the thing is like my case on the lurker slots i push is because of their limited content and not BECAUSE they are lurking.

theres a difference.
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Post Post #4341 (ISO) » Tue May 03, 2022 12:12 pm

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In post 4335, The Keeper wrote:
In post 4332, SCP 682 wrote:do you only push people who are active, Nero?

do game mods only rand people scum when they actively talk?
Do game mods choose who gets what role?

Eliminating lurker is literally eliminating randomly.
We have enough actives that give information on their flips.

no, they randomize who gets what
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Post Post #4342 (ISO) » Tue May 03, 2022 12:13 pm

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In post 4340, SCP 682 wrote:the thing is like my case on the lurker slots i push is because of their limited content and not BECAUSE they are lurking.

theres a difference.

you use Day 3, day 4 reasonings on day 1, and it just devalues your pushes.
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Post Post #4343 (ISO) » Tue May 03, 2022 12:13 pm

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In post 4340, SCP 682 wrote:the thing is like my case on the lurker slots i push is because of their limited content and not BECAUSE they are lurking.

theres a difference.
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Post Post #4344 (ISO) » Tue May 03, 2022 12:13 pm

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In post 4337, Nashville Dreams wrote:
In post 4320, Nero Cain wrote:tictac is prob the days wagon and at 170 pages this day shouldn't go on much longer but wanted to put my vote on scum for the time being.

VOTE: butterchurn
Why don't you think butter and tictac can be scum together?
not sure if I ever said that. Nice lil' manipulative post.
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Post Post #4345 (ISO) » Tue May 03, 2022 12:14 pm

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In post 4344, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 4337, Nashville Dreams wrote:
In post 4320, Nero Cain wrote:tictac is prob the days wagon and at 170 pages this day shouldn't go on much longer but wanted to put my vote on scum for the time being.

VOTE: butterchurn
Why don't you think butter and tictac can be scum together?
not sure if I ever said that. Nice lil' manipulative post.

that's Titus's stance, not yours.
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Post Post #4346 (ISO) » Tue May 03, 2022 12:14 pm

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In post 4336, Nero Cain wrote:scum pushing lurkers is an ez push to hide behind and its odd considering that butterchurns top scumread was ND. Not a huge fan of his explanation
the difference between scum pushing lurkers and town pushing lurkers is the the former will primarily push them for lurking only and the latter will have reasoning added more often than not.

nuance.
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Post Post #4347 (ISO) » Tue May 03, 2022 12:14 pm

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In post 4129, Nashville Dreams wrote:
In post 1016, The Keeper wrote:
In post 904, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 898, Save The Dragons wrote:
In post 895, Menalque wrote:hey, std, how would you feel about joining me on bnuuy?
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Post Post #4348 (ISO) » Tue May 03, 2022 12:14 pm

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That being said, I'm willing to wait a day or two on lurkers. Even in that one game, we had two days of data to work with.

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Post Post #4349 (ISO) » Tue May 03, 2022 12:15 pm

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In post 4348, Nashville Dreams wrote:That being said, I'm willing to wait a day or two on lurkers. Even in that one game, we had two days of data to work with.

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