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Post Post #4450 (ISO) » Tue May 03, 2022 2:56 pm

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In post 2633, Well Done wrote:I liked catboi's catchup and posting recently a lot

In move Norwegianboy up to Null and then I'd probably be willing to eliminate everyone else in the Scum reads
In post 2640, Well Done wrote:
In post 2633, Well Done wrote:I liked catboi's catchup and posting recently a lot

In move Norwegianboy up to Null and then I'd probably be willing to eliminate everyone else in the Scum reads
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Post Post #4451 (ISO) » Tue May 03, 2022 2:59 pm

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In post 4446, SCP 682 wrote:what are your READS.
also i literally said i townread you in squid game. stop it.
started to answer, but i think i wanna be properly awake 4 this one.
standby while i sleep
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Post Post #4452 (ISO) » Tue May 03, 2022 3:10 pm

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In post 4451, tictac wrote:
In post 4446, SCP 682 wrote:what are your READS.
also i literally said i townread you in squid game. stop it.
started to answer, but i think i wanna be properly awake 4 this one.
standby while i sleep
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Post Post #4453 (ISO) » Tue May 03, 2022 3:49 pm

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Dunn is on board too!

VOTE: Tictac
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Post Post #4454 (ISO) » Tue May 03, 2022 4:05 pm

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In post 4244, SCP 682 wrote:ok look

from the first run of this setup concept

if you think someone is malefactor - the play is to ignore them - not eliminate. (until we are ahead then its ok to do so but even so)

lukewarm i believe pretty much botched their miller fakeclaim in that game and we just ignored that slot (or whoever was the malefactor.

also like jokes exist
This is basically correct, except I was not the one who did it lmao.

Whemestar was the malefactor
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Post Post #4455 (ISO) » Tue May 03, 2022 4:05 pm

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There is no town incentive to kill the malefactor
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Post Post #4456 (ISO) » Tue May 03, 2022 4:26 pm

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In post 4455, Well Done wrote:There is no town incentive to kill the malefactor
Malefactor still scum and better than town elim.
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Post Post #4457 (ISO) » Tue May 03, 2022 5:17 pm

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fuck this game
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Post Post #4458 (ISO) » Tue May 03, 2022 5:18 pm

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i'm going to stop trying to keep up and evaluate everything new that's posted, i'll ove to secure an elim but this is easily the most miserable gameday i have ever experienced and the game needs some form of forward progress
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Post Post #4460 (ISO) » Tue May 03, 2022 5:21 pm

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sorry, tictac, but pressure here is something that's necessary, i think. =/
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Post Post #4461 (ISO) » Tue May 03, 2022 5:24 pm

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In post 3680, MalcolmTucker wrote:Some of that is completely tiresome reading back.
I agree with WD that Keeper's frustration seemed more genuine so happy to remove my vote from there.


Will do some individual ISO casing to try and gauge where I am re certain players. Finding it hard to get proper mafia reads because I'm TR'ing most of the main players involved in these incredibly long and neverending arguments.
But Well Done talked about catboi's frustration, not The Keeper? Their reason for townreading The Keeper had nothing to do with frustration ()

Spoiler: some posts
In post 3685, MalcolmTucker wrote:
In post 3646, Nashville Dreams wrote:wanna know whats really annoying

those who are pushing "us" as a lurker there is other players who have little posts as well and aren't having fire placed under their ass

{tictac, casso, toog, MegA, enchant, klick, mastina & CSF}

there's a few more, but whatever.

I'm at the end of page 113.
I agree with this, I don't think Nashville has even been particularly inactive at this point, well over 100+ posts now. Argument on the merit of elimination sure but lurker justifications are fundamentally weak at this point.
In post 3695, The Keeper wrote:
In post 3646, Nashville Dreams wrote:wanna know whats really annoying

those who are pushing "us" as a lurker there is other players who have little posts as well and aren't having fire placed under their ass

{tictac, casso, toog, MegA, enchant, klick, mastina & CSF}

there's a few more, but whatever.

I'm at the end of page 113.
So when I spotted this I grabbed Deaths List, i need to go back but thats a lot of pages.

There was a few people pushing the low posters but said low posters had active people below them in post count, annoyingly one of you also did it. CSF did it as well, and Catboi also pulled that line.

There's a couple more I need to find because there was a definite "LURKER YEET" movement. Within those 3 is 74% chance one of you is a proper baddie.
I know where i'd put my Three Dollar Bill at the moment if I went in this current pool.

oh my god

I think by this point, misunderstanding the case on ND is probably just willful misrep. At the very least, I think Malcolm is scummy
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Post Post #4462 (ISO) » Tue May 03, 2022 5:41 pm

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VOTE: tictac
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Post Post #4463 (ISO) » Tue May 03, 2022 6:29 pm

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Spoiler: don't mind me
In post 3929, MonkeyMan576 wrote:yeah they don't seem that towny to me.

And I hate cats, I'm a dog person.
pl-worthy post, tbh :evil:

In post 4041, Nashville Dreams wrote: Motive can tell alignment. The sheer number of times catboi has been counterwagoned suggests he's scum. My play read on him is town. The last I checked our hydra notes, she had catboi scum. Her opinion (at least at the time) plus the votes means I need to reset and check if the votes warrant the belief that scum were shopping for any not catboi wagon.

Even if my gut instinct is right,
repeated counterwagons to town
in multiball suggest catboi is defending one if not both teams hard.
Who is the town in this scenario? If it's referring to you, this analysis doesn't really help anyone who's not you - what does the number of times you've been counterwagoned tell us about your alignment? Or MonkeyMan's alignment (who you originally used this same argument on?)
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Post Post #4464 (ISO) » Tue May 03, 2022 6:35 pm

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I'm ok with a tictac lim.

VOTE: tictac

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Post Post #4465 (ISO) » Tue May 03, 2022 6:36 pm

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With Enchant in the game, tictac is in claim territory.
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Post Post #4466 (ISO) » Tue May 03, 2022 9:20 pm

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intent


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Post Post #4467 (ISO) » Tue May 03, 2022 10:47 pm

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In post 4461, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 3680, MalcolmTucker wrote:Some of that is completely tiresome reading back.
I agree with WD that Keeper's frustration seemed more genuine so happy to remove my vote from there.


Will do some individual ISO casing to try and gauge where I am re certain players. Finding it hard to get proper mafia reads because I'm TR'ing most of the main players involved in these incredibly long and neverending arguments.
But Well Done talked about catboi's frustration, not The Keeper? Their reason for townreading The Keeper had nothing to do with frustration ()

Spoiler: some posts
In post 3685, MalcolmTucker wrote:
In post 3646, Nashville Dreams wrote:wanna know whats really annoying

those who are pushing "us" as a lurker there is other players who have little posts as well and aren't having fire placed under their ass

{tictac, casso, toog, MegA, enchant, klick, mastina & CSF}

there's a few more, but whatever.

I'm at the end of page 113.
I agree with this, I don't think Nashville has even been particularly inactive at this point, well over 100+ posts now. Argument on the merit of elimination sure but lurker justifications are fundamentally weak at this point.
In post 3695, The Keeper wrote:
In post 3646, Nashville Dreams wrote:wanna know whats really annoying

those who are pushing "us" as a lurker there is other players who have little posts as well and aren't having fire placed under their ass

{tictac, casso, toog, MegA, enchant, klick, mastina & CSF}

there's a few more, but whatever.

I'm at the end of page 113.
So when I spotted this I grabbed Deaths List, i need to go back but thats a lot of pages.

There was a few people pushing the low posters but said low posters had active people below them in post count, annoyingly one of you also did it. CSF did it as well, and Catboi also pulled that line.

There's a couple more I need to find because there was a definite "LURKER YEET" movement. Within those 3 is 74% chance one of you is a proper baddie.
I know where i'd put my Three Dollar Bill at the moment if I went in this current pool.

oh my god

I think by this point, misunderstanding the case on ND is probably just willful misrep.
At the very least, I think Malcolm is scummy
Who knows, maybe it is but at this point there is just frankly too much going on to gain an accurate read of everyone. Happy to ISO ND again on D2. Don't plan to catch up on the 30-odd pages I've missed until then.
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Post Post #4468 (ISO) » Tue May 03, 2022 11:01 pm

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Agh, i'm probably unvoting when I wake up.

I dont think tictac flips scum here.
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Post Post #4469 (ISO) » Tue May 03, 2022 11:09 pm

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screw it.

You guys will be able to get it without me

VOTE: Catboi

I did this on that Go game backing off of my own read. If I'm wrong, and they're scum, fine. But I can't stop thinking about Tictac saying I knew their scum meta, and while I wouldn't say I'm an expert on scum them by any means, they're right that I have caught them out as scum, and genuinely felt scum energy from there in those games.

I don't feel it here when they speak. I convinced myself maybe they could be scum when they weren't here, but the fact that I've been thinking about this while away is a sign to me that I am gut town reading them.

I understand that's not good enough to defend them. So be it.

I understand that we need to move to Day 2.

You'll be able to get this one without me, but I need to stand by my conviction of this gut town read on tictac.
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Post Post #4470 (ISO) » Tue May 03, 2022 11:12 pm

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In post 4388, Nashville Dreams wrote:
In post 4377, Well Done wrote:This really doesn't answer most of what was quoted
Then you better well be damn specific/clearer in what wasn't answered by or my umpteen million other vote theory posts today.

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Post Post #4471 (ISO) » Tue May 03, 2022 11:17 pm

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In post 4419, Nashville Dreams wrote:
In post 4418, butterchurn wrote:
In post 4409, Flavor Leaf wrote:I also really want to force Butterchurn to commit with a Catboi stance and just haven't been able to get pressure going past a stalled 5-6 vote wagon on Catboi all game.
I don't really see why I should be forced to take a stance here (well, I understand why you would want me to, since if I'm scum it makes me take a stance, but I'm not, so I'm not going to make one up). Players like catboi are not people that I expect to be able to have a confident Day 1 read on.
So you've spent the entire day voting not catboi and catboi is a nullread?

Who do you expect to have a read on?
I keep Townreading you... then you keep sinking the read with stuff like this.

23 players in a game. We're not all going to get Q4 or even Q3 items. People are going to get Q0 sometimes.

This is a BAD angle and either I've seriously pissed off Titus recently or there's a huge shift in playstyles lately.
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Post Post #4472 (ISO) » Tue May 03, 2022 11:28 pm

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In post 4439, Well Done wrote:The following message is solely the opinon of Lukewarm - I am not speaking ad a hydra here

@flavor leaf.

Please. I am asking you, as respectful as I possibly can, please limit your posting. The average posts per slot in this game is 193. You have 964. Second place has 350.

I am sure that you are a lovely person, but the way you are engaging with the thread is actively diminishing my enjoyment in this game.

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I think it should become site standard for games to have some form of posting limits. I have enjoyed those in every game that I have seen them in.
970 of 4470 posts, 21.7% of the games posts. Literally more than the combined total of the next 3 posters.
That said this factors in partly to my Malefactor read currently.
Flush the game, you don't need to elim safely then.
Disagree with the last part though. Works for some games, not for others.
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Post Post #4473 (ISO) » Tue May 03, 2022 11:30 pm

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In post 4441, tictac wrote:okay

i like the spite from cass.

koba and keeper went looking 4 second hand meta and both unsuprisingly found what they expected to find.
koba still seems to think i was scum in squidgame 4 some reason? also larges are different than 12p.
keeper proved that activity is NAI (tho i appereciate the effort)
direct meta is better than second hand, which both of them have from town-side, but koba seems confused somehow. i do think it's real confusion tho.
leaf has actual scum-meta 4 me, but seems to be going w the flow, i think out of frustration of catbooi-resistance?
ydr i'd expect to read me better after FinalFantasy

ppedit: yea, i concur. it's a group-game u don't have to try to solo-carry.
See now this is weird, while I did look at previous runs you seem to be thinking I was looking to do something other than what I did? Or expecting something other than what I did?
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Post Post #4474 (ISO) » Tue May 03, 2022 11:32 pm

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In post 4456, Enchant wrote:
In post 4455, Well Done wrote:There is no town incentive to kill the malefactor
Malefactor still scum and better than town elim.
I see you picked up the Birds Eye.
Malefactor is a miselimination. We dont remove an active threat beyond a vote.
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