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Post Post #4625 (ISO) » Wed May 04, 2022 6:39 am

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koba is right

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Post Post #4626 (ISO) » Wed May 04, 2022 6:40 am

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Amazing what you can learn when you take VCA and Wagonomics out of the equasion.
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Post Post #4627 (ISO) » Wed May 04, 2022 6:41 am

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I think Titus has an agenda of voting out only catboi this dayphase and its starting to show pretty blatantly - Could be tunneled town could be scum - but regardless of the case I don't think Titus can be trusted on catboi until they show some charitably and actually display cognition of context behind his wagons rather than trying to push that failed wagon=scum repeatedly. If Titus finds something in the context of the wagons that actually shows her theory is correct I'm all ears - I don't have catboi as solidly town, I was just working with him on the basis he is a good scumhunter.

This all being said - this does not mean I think catboi / Titus has to be S/T or what have you. It could very well be T/T or S/S, this is just how I feel about how they are coming off with their tunnel.
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Post Post #4628 (ISO) » Wed May 04, 2022 6:43 am

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I think Titus is just cranky.
She wasn't well over the weekend, and she loathes that my RVS vote which I'm not even that bothered about is still standing.
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Post Post #4629 (ISO) » Wed May 04, 2022 6:45 am

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In post 4628, The Keeper wrote:I think Titus is just cranky.
She wasn't well over the weekend, and she loathes that my RVS vote which I'm not even that bothered about is still standing.
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Post Post #4630 (ISO) » Wed May 04, 2022 6:45 am

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In post 4629, DkKoba wrote:
In post 4628, The Keeper wrote:I think Titus is just cranky.
She wasn't well over the weekend, and she loathes that my RVS vote which I'm not even that bothered about is still standing.
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Post Post #4631 (ISO) » Wed May 04, 2022 6:47 am

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did you knowingly run up a claimed mason?
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Post Post #4632 (ISO) » Wed May 04, 2022 6:47 am

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In post 4614, Enchant wrote:
In post 4608, SCP 682 wrote:We have all seen the scumfucks who are left in the dust and are caught by the way they keep repeating they need to catch up while never catching up.
Scum winrates when they discover they can just say "I catched up" without really reading game:

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Post Post #4633 (ISO) » Wed May 04, 2022 6:47 am

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In post 4631, Nero Cain wrote:did you knowingly run up a claimed mason?
uh

maybe

in our defence I think most of us had forgotten that by the time we were wagoning him
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Post Post #4634 (ISO) » Wed May 04, 2022 6:48 am

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In post 4627, SCP 682 wrote:I think Titus has an agenda of voting out only catboi this dayphase and its starting to show pretty blatantly - Could be tunneled town could be scum - but regardless of the case I don't think Titus can be trusted on catboi until they show some charitably and actually display cognition of context behind his wagons rather than trying to push that failed wagon=scum repeatedly. If Titus finds something in the context of the wagons that actually shows her theory is correct I'm all ears - I don't have catboi as solidly town, I was just working with him on the basis he is a good scumhunter.

This all being said - this does not mean I think catboi / Titus has to be S/T or what have you. It could very well be T/T or S/S, this is just how I feel about how they are coming off with their tunnel.
The especially strange thing about it is that Titus for a while early on was townreading catboi. She initially was acting in a similar pattern, but around MonkeyMan, saying that any wagon that came up was a counter to him, and wanting to eliminate there. I think she may have been sheeping people like myself who were somewhat tunneled on MonkeyMan early. Seeing her poor reasoning for suspicion actually helped get me out of the tunnel. However, her trajectory flipped very suddenly and without reason, and now the pattern is the same but the focus is around catboi. That was the main reason for the initial suspicion around her; she's since explained it and the explanation is somewhat believable but I still think the progression looks very off. My belief is that she was realigning her reads and direction in response to Flavor Leaf being tunneled on catboi.
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Post Post #4635 (ISO) » Wed May 04, 2022 6:49 am

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In post 4621, SCP 682 wrote:mind you StD is like a scumread of mine and probably just wants to discredit me but yeah.
did you want to actually talk to me at some point or are you good

also sorry if you felt i was mocking you that def was not my intent
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Post Post #4636 (ISO) » Wed May 04, 2022 6:51 am

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In post 4631, Nero Cain wrote:did you knowingly run up a claimed mason?
tictac? What? I don't think they had claimed earlier. I didn't see it, at least, and I don't see it now on looking at ISO.
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Post Post #4637 (ISO) » Wed May 04, 2022 6:52 am

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In post 4633, Menalque wrote:
In post 4631, Nero Cain wrote:did you knowingly run up a claimed mason?
uh

maybe

in our defence I think most of us had forgotten that by the time we were wagoning him
that is some awful town play bordering on scumplay....to just waste time on a claimed mason and not hunt for scum. Like wtf?
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Post Post #4638 (ISO) » Wed May 04, 2022 6:52 am

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In post 4635, Save The Dragons wrote:
In post 4621, SCP 682 wrote:mind you StD is like a scumread of mine and probably just wants to discredit me but yeah.
did you want to actually talk to me at some point or are you good

also sorry if you felt i was mocking you that def was not my intent
i think u are having trouble getting into this game in a scum indicative and u were under null but recent postings have alleviated that, mainly why i want town cop to check u so you can be cleared.
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Post Post #4639 (ISO) » Wed May 04, 2022 6:53 am

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mason can still be werewolf here - so really it depends on if you want to give a pass on someone who is half not scum and let the scum shoot at it if they scumread it.
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Post Post #4640 (ISO) » Wed May 04, 2022 6:54 am

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In post 4512, SCP 682 wrote:rofl so FL wasn't lying about the masonry
this just made it sound like FL had already claimed. Dunno if he did or not but thats what it sounded like to me.
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Post Post #4641 (ISO) » Wed May 04, 2022 6:54 am

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In post 4638, SCP 682 wrote:i think u are having trouble getting into this game in a scum indicative and u were under null but recent postings have alleviated that, mainly why i want town cop to check u so you can be cleared.
I don't think this is accurate, although I can see how you may think that due to the timing of when you joined. I expect a lot of people are having fatigue due to how long the Day has gone on. At the start of the game, Save the Dragons seemed to have no trouble at all getting into the game and in my opinion was very towny.
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Post Post #4642 (ISO) » Wed May 04, 2022 6:55 am

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In post 4634, butterchurn wrote:
In post 4627, SCP 682 wrote:I think Titus has an agenda of voting out only catboi this dayphase and its starting to show pretty blatantly - Could be tunneled town could be scum - but regardless of the case I don't think Titus can be trusted on catboi until they show some charitably and actually display cognition of context behind his wagons rather than trying to push that failed wagon=scum repeatedly. If Titus finds something in the context of the wagons that actually shows her theory is correct I'm all ears - I don't have catboi as solidly town, I was just working with him on the basis he is a good scumhunter.

This all being said - this does not mean I think catboi / Titus has to be S/T or what have you. It could very well be T/T or S/S, this is just how I feel about how they are coming off with their tunnel.
The especially strange thing about it is that Titus for a while early on was townreading catboi. She initially was acting in a similar pattern, but around MonkeyMan, saying that any wagon that came up was a counter to him, and wanting to eliminate there. I think she may have been sheeping people like myself who were somewhat tunneled on MonkeyMan early. Seeing her poor reasoning for suspicion actually helped get me out of the tunnel. However, her trajectory flipped very suddenly and without reason, and now the pattern is the same but the focus is around catboi. That was the main reason for the initial suspicion around her; she's since explained it and the explanation is somewhat believable but I still think the progression looks very off. My belief is that she was realigning her reads and direction in response to Flavor Leaf being tunneled on catboi.
Interesting - I may have to go into that context myself. May be willing to pivot to Nashville if Toog wagon doesn't work out.
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Post Post #4643 (ISO) » Wed May 04, 2022 6:56 am

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In post 4640, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 4512, SCP 682 wrote:rofl so FL wasn't lying about the masonry
this just made it sound like FL had already claimed. Dunno if he did or not but thats what it sounded like to me.
FL claimed masons with tictac in the monastery
Tictac claimed mason
I point out FL had claimed masons with tictac thus think FL was lying about the retraction
Tictac clarifies that FL isn't a mason and hardclaims it.
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Post Post #4644 (ISO) » Wed May 04, 2022 6:56 am

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In between FL claiming mason and tictac claiming mason there is a point where I push the point in the game thread and FL ends up retracting the claim.
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Post Post #4645 (ISO) » Wed May 04, 2022 6:57 am

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In post 4637, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 4633, Menalque wrote:
In post 4631, Nero Cain wrote:did you knowingly run up a claimed mason?
uh

maybe

in our defence I think most of us had forgotten that by the time we were wagoning him
that is some awful town play bordering on scumplay....to just waste time on a claimed mason and not hunt for scum. Like wtf?
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Post Post #4646 (ISO) » Wed May 04, 2022 6:57 am

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I've just been ignoring any Flavor Leaf claims unless they are confirmed by others, because he's already taken back several.
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Post Post #4647 (ISO) » Wed May 04, 2022 6:58 am

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lowkey think Titus is town despite how annoyingly delusional she is but maybe I'm wrong who knows. I'm certainly not a big fan of Mala's latest posting.
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Post Post #4648 (ISO) » Wed May 04, 2022 7:01 am

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In post 4643, SCP 682 wrote:
In post 4640, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 4512, SCP 682 wrote:rofl so FL wasn't lying about the masonry
this just made it sound like FL had already claimed. Dunno if he did or not but thats what it sounded like to me.
FL claimed masons with tictac in the monastery
Can Mason be Monk at same time?!
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Post Post #4649 (ISO) » Wed May 04, 2022 7:10 am

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In post 4647, Nero Cain wrote:lowkey think Titus is town despite how annoyingly delusional she is but maybe I'm wrong who knows. I'm certainly not a big fan of Mala's latest posting.
Given both heads are ignoring my challenge on their chainsaw comment and others, I'm ignoring that slot from here.

Titus is frankly not Titus and I don't want to sour anything between us. Given they're not in the habit of signing between them and I can't tell them apart, full slot is out for me.
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