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Post Post #4750 (ISO) » Wed May 04, 2022 10:08 am

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Lol, I have a wagon on me.
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Post Post #4751 (ISO) » Wed May 04, 2022 10:09 am

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Catboi pushes like there's absolutely no good reasons to scum read them, but even if they were town, there's some good stuff out there, it just wouldn't be right.


Ydrasse is setting up for the possibility to bus, I feel, but trying to move it over to toogeloo.
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Post Post #4752 (ISO) » Wed May 04, 2022 10:09 am

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Did we get enough on toog for a claim yet
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Post Post #4753 (ISO) » Wed May 04, 2022 10:10 am

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In post 4746, SCP 682 wrote:
In post 4742, catboi wrote:
In post 4688, SCP 682 wrote:toog/nero/mega/mena/klick <- top tier of scumreads

catboi/nashville/tictac/csf <- lower tier of scumreads

lower tier is in order of strongest to weakest

also mastina is my solve for malefactor at this point for partially mechanical reasons and how theyve played the day so far. town vig should always shoot there n1 regardless because of the risk of a malefactor BP.
if this is your POE I'm very lukewarm (not the player) on a lot of these reads


also what happened to your butterchurn read?
i listed like 10 players I do need specifics lol

butterchurn I changed my mind on rereading their posts but theyre still middle of the road in terms of reads
I still think mena is town, csf and klick I lean town on.

I thought wallflower was probably town just someone with a bone to pick with me hiding behind an alt. caveat: i havent read neros posts since he replaced in so i dont know if something changed for you with that read
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Post Post #4754 (ISO) » Wed May 04, 2022 10:10 am

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What claims have I missed so that I don't accidentally claim something claimed already?
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Post Post #4755 (ISO) » Wed May 04, 2022 10:10 am

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In post 4745, Menalque wrote:
In post 4680, Nero Cain wrote:Why is Sword of Ducks town?


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scum? too small of a list naybe tictac was scum? idk
Fuckin called it baybeeeee
sure man. I just think me replacing in and then you imediatly moaning about how I scum read you in our last 2 games wasn't a particularly great look. I was also sorta nodding along with koba's post about you and catboi being S/S.
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Post Post #4756 (ISO) » Wed May 04, 2022 10:10 am

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In post 4744, Ydrasse wrote:maybe i have retrospect of like knowing toog was town there and here i can’t know so i’m >:( but i feel the effort in that game was really like... apparent after a certain point. the care. the “i’m town” energy

it’s a nebulous reason to explain but it’s there
I feel this. There's really nothing towny about anything that he's posted. A lot of his earlier discussion was also about not really game-related things. The biggest stance he's taken so far is calling mastina scum, which of all possible stances is probably the stance that is the least likely to produce anything since she's unlikely to be eliminated or strongly wagoned anytime soon.
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Post Post #4757 (ISO) » Wed May 04, 2022 10:11 am

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In post 4750, Toogeloo wrote:Lol, I have a wagon on me.
ya im leading it

looking for you to at least try to read recent stuff, skim some ISOs, make some hot takes
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Post Post #4758 (ISO) » Wed May 04, 2022 10:11 am

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In post 4746, SCP 682 wrote:
In post 4742, catboi wrote:
In post 4688, SCP 682 wrote:toog/nero/mega/mena/klick <- top tier of scumreads

catboi/nashville/tictac/csf <- lower tier of scumreads

lower tier is in order of strongest to weakest

also mastina is my solve for malefactor at this point for partially mechanical reasons and how theyve played the day so far. town vig should always shoot there n1 regardless because of the risk of a malefactor BP.
if this is your POE I'm very lukewarm (not the player) on a lot of these reads


also what happened to your butterchurn read?
i listed like 10 players I do need specifics lol

butterchurn I changed my mind on rereading their posts but theyre still middle of the road in terms of reads
I'd still like to hear about your reasons for the bnuuy read change.
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Post Post #4759 (ISO) » Wed May 04, 2022 10:11 am

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though if nero is scum monkeyman has decent partner equity
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Post Post #4760 (ISO) » Wed May 04, 2022 10:12 am

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In post 4755, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 4745, Menalque wrote:
In post 4680, Nero Cain wrote:Why is Sword of Ducks town?


butterchurn
catboi
bnuuy
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Ydrasse

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scum? too small of a list naybe tictac was scum? idk
Fuckin called it baybeeeee
sure man. I just think me replacing in and then you imediatly moaning about how I scum read you in our last 2 games wasn't a particularly great look. I was also sorta nodding along with koba's post about you and catboi being S/S.

Yeah, menalque's been doing weird stuff all game.

Other than Bnuuy wagon, I can't name a single thing theyve done besides defend Catboi.
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Post Post #4761 (ISO) » Wed May 04, 2022 10:12 am

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In post 4757, SCP 682 wrote:
In post 4750, Toogeloo wrote:Lol, I have a wagon on me.
ya im leading it

looking for you to at least try to read recent stuff, skim some ISOs, make some hot takes
Help stop Game Bloat, and I might be able to.
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Post Post #4762 (ISO) » Wed May 04, 2022 10:12 am

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Well also because I think wallflower and I had reasonable working together potential whereas I don’t think we do so much which also makes the game harder

I’ve kinda accepted there’s a good chance I get mislimmed at some point too, so that’s helpful
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Post Post #4763 (ISO) » Wed May 04, 2022 10:12 am

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In post 4758, butterchurn wrote:
In post 4746, SCP 682 wrote:
In post 4742, catboi wrote:
In post 4688, SCP 682 wrote:toog/nero/mega/mena/klick <- top tier of scumreads

catboi/nashville/tictac/csf <- lower tier of scumreads

lower tier is in order of strongest to weakest

also mastina is my solve for malefactor at this point for partially mechanical reasons and how theyve played the day so far. town vig should always shoot there n1 regardless because of the risk of a malefactor BP.
if this is your POE I'm very lukewarm (not the player) on a lot of these reads


also what happened to your butterchurn read?
i listed like 10 players I do need specifics lol

butterchurn I changed my mind on rereading their posts but theyre still middle of the road in terms of reads
I'd still like to hear about your reasons for the bnuuy read change.
i reread their iso and concluded my initial reasons were bad
not interested in going in depth atm bc it would derail the convo ty
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Post Post #4764 (ISO) » Wed May 04, 2022 10:12 am

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That was at nero if I hadn’t been ninja’d a thousand times
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Post Post #4765 (ISO) » Wed May 04, 2022 10:13 am

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In post 4754, Toogeloo wrote:What claims have I missed so that I don't accidentally claim something claimed already?
This is not coming from ScumToogs.


Monks and Masons. and VT. and Beloved Princess.
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Post Post #4766 (ISO) » Wed May 04, 2022 10:13 am

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In post 4763, SCP 682 wrote:i reread their iso and concluded my initial reasons were bad
not interested in going in depth atm bc it would derail the convo ty
Fair. I'll check back in about it next time there's a wagon on them or something.
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Post Post #4767 (ISO) » Wed May 04, 2022 10:13 am

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In post 4760, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 4755, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 4745, Menalque wrote:
In post 4680, Nero Cain wrote:Why is Sword of Ducks town?


butterchurn
catboi
bnuuy
mastina
Menalque
Ydrasse

^
scum? too small of a list naybe tictac was scum? idk
Fuckin called it baybeeeee
sure man. I just think me replacing in and then you imediatly moaning about how I scum read you in our last 2 games wasn't a particularly great look. I was also sorta nodding along with koba's post about you and catboi being S/S.

Yeah, menalque's been doing weird stuff all game.

Other than Bnuuy wagon, I can't name a single thing theyve done besides defend Catboi.
If all I can do this game is defend one town and push one scum, that’s better than some and no worse than all
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Post Post #4768 (ISO) » Wed May 04, 2022 10:14 am

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In post 4762, Menalque wrote:Well also because I think wallflower and I had reasonable working together potential whereas I don’t think we do so much which also makes the game harder

I’ve kinda accepted there’s a good chance I get mislimmed at some point too, so that’s helpful
I'd probably semi-defend you, but not as much as for the others.
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Post Post #4769 (ISO) » Wed May 04, 2022 10:14 am

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In post 4765, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 4754, Toogeloo wrote:What claims have I missed so that I don't accidentally claim something claimed already?
This is not coming from ScumToogs.


Monks and Masons. and VT. and Beloved Princess.
You’re just looking for excuses to TR every major wagon that takes place so that you can use said “realisation” as an excuse to try and pivot to catboi for the millionth time
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Post Post #4770 (ISO) » Wed May 04, 2022 10:15 am

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In post 4768, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 4762, Menalque wrote:Well also because I think wallflower and I had reasonable working together potential whereas I don’t think we do so much which also makes the game harder

I’ve kinda accepted there’s a good chance I get mislimmed at some point too, so that’s helpful
I'd probably semi-defend you, but not as much as for the others.
Unless scum make some NKs I strongly approve of them I’m fully down to just get mislimmed and go vibe in the dead thread
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Post Post #4771 (ISO) » Wed May 04, 2022 10:15 am

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In post 4753, catboi wrote:i havent read neros posts since he replaced in so i dont know if something changed for you with that read
apparently, I am bussing you which sorta makes me worry that koba is trying to minimize that amount of town cred I'd get from flipping scum.
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Post Post #4772 (ISO) » Wed May 04, 2022 10:16 am

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In post 4767, Menalque wrote:
In post 4760, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 4755, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 4745, Menalque wrote:
In post 4680, Nero Cain wrote:Why is Sword of Ducks town?


butterchurn
catboi
bnuuy
mastina
Menalque
Ydrasse

^
scum? too small of a list naybe tictac was scum? idk
Fuckin called it baybeeeee
sure man. I just think me replacing in and then you imediatly moaning about how I scum read you in our last 2 games wasn't a particularly great look. I was also sorta nodding along with koba's post about you and catboi being S/S.

Yeah, menalque's been doing weird stuff all game.

Other than Bnuuy wagon, I can't name a single thing theyve done besides defend Catboi.
If all I can do this game is defend one town and push one scum, that’s better than some and no worse than all
Yeah, hopefully you'll be able to do this as the game goes on.

Personally, I don't care if you do less than that, if I can read you as town somehow, you've done your job.

Players like Toogeloo/TicTac are the type that I don't necessarily expect to scum hunt early either alignment. But late game, if town, they're so pure and have good strong scum reads or I can tell when they're getting manipulated.

Under pressure, I feel both Toogeloo and TicTac have been townie.
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Post Post #4773 (ISO) » Wed May 04, 2022 10:16 am

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In post 4769, Menalque wrote:
In post 4765, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 4754, Toogeloo wrote:What claims have I missed so that I don't accidentally claim something claimed already?
This is not coming from ScumToogs.


Monks and Masons. and VT. and Beloved Princess.
You’re just looking for excuses to TR every major wagon that takes place so that you can use said “realisation” as an excuse to try and pivot to catboi for the millionth time

I had a full scum list other than Catboi, but Catboi flip gives the evidence for the others and not the other way around.
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Post Post #4774 (ISO) » Wed May 04, 2022 10:16 am

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Weeeee will see
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