Mini Normal 2271 - Game Over

[MalcolmTucker]

Getting rid of me is still silly given I'm very much not mafia (my plan demonstrates that quite clearly) but probably little more I can do to make that obvious to the doubters. Scum being able to take the piss here it feeels like quite frankly but it happens I guess. Suppose there's a world where I'm wrong and it's Mala/Gamma or something and I've been on the wrong track all game so it can happen.

I don’t think your plan of self hammer demonstrates anything.

If any player offered to hammer themselves was town then scum would do it.

Scum also commonly hammer themselves before a flip to cut conversation.

I have a work meeting and left off here but I don’t find it a coincidence posting sped up when I asked people to talk Malcolm.

Oh yeah I get that, I'm aware it doesn't clear me, more just me pointing out I've largely done all I can do in a sense as far as trying to clear myself goes. Need to head off but can continue any discussion in the morning if I've not been eliminated.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

VC 4.04

With 7 players, it takes 4 to make a decision. Day 4 ends in (expired on 2022-05-08 22:30:00).

VC

MalcolmTucker [2]:

KittyTacky [3500], MathBlade [3583] ---

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KittyTacky [2]:

MalcolmTucker [3355], Roden [3648] ---

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humaneatingmonkey [1]:

Malakittens [3397]

Malakittens [1]:

humaneatingmonkey [3526]

Not voting [1]:

Gamma Emerald

[MathBlade]

Mala, can we talk? I need your perspective on something.

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From what I understand, you town read me and scum read HEM. Do you think this is similar to Control and that I'm just pocketed here?

I'd also like for Mala to respond to this.

Can you give a brief summary of this game? It’s obviously important to you. What similarities are you asking about?

[MathBlade]

Roden is transparently doing all they can here to clear Kitty, who is about to be heavily involved in a townie wagon for the third time in the game, this time for an identical reason to the exact logic they gave for their decision to eliminating Italiano still being a sensible one.

Are you talking about this post?

I feel like Kitty has been getting heat all game, but it never really seemed like they were in danger of getting eliminated.

Because this is me openly wondering why Kitty doesn't ever have the momentum to get wagon'd. I actually don't understand why they haven't been in any real danger this game. I went back and dug through Koopa's ISO since I remember they had a lot to say about Kitty, and though they went back and forth on their read before ending up with a town read there, when they did suspect Kitty there still wasn't much momentum there.

If you think Kitty is scum then why has there been so little pressure there overall? If I'm partnered with Kitty then why isn't anyone else seeing it? Do you think I'm just easily snowing HEM Math Gamma and Mala?

Alright, let's try something.

VOTE: Kitty

I really think Malcolm is ultimately necessary here. If Gamma agrees on Kitty, I will go Kitty for consensus but you moving to Kitty is odd here. I am having a hard time figuring out how you can agree with me on the mechanics then don’t want to follow through.

[KittyTacky]

No once again you're completely and wilfully misreading my point. I understand players make mistakes. I do not deny that. I have made mistakes, such as pushing for NK15. My point is you have exclusively pushed what you deem to be (obvious) scum despite the fact the majority of mafia games will contain a player who tries to blend in and who avoids making mistakes. Your reads have been conducted solely to appear townie so that whenever town is eliminated you can claim you are being honest. As is the case right now. You claim it was the best approach but you refused to ever consider counterarguments made as to why Scorpious/Italiano could not be scum and only backed off JV after their role claim, something you're refusing to do here because you know it could potentially put your own place in the game at stake if the tables are turned at all.

1. They were OBVIOUS scum to me. I was wrong but WHY should I look for hidden scum when someone was clearly scummy to me?
2. You are death tunneled on me for making mistakes.

[KittyTacky]

The arguments for Scorp and Italiano being town did not outweigh their scummy actions.

[KittyTacky]

My point here is that Kitty has CONTINUALLY used their incorrect reads as a shield and justification for why they must be town, which to me is inherently scummy.

How the actual fuck would I know someone SITTING ON A CLAIMED PR was actually just a poorly-playing townie?

They have repeatedly refused to push any slots which may be more concealed mafia because it's been much easier to go for simpler slots who made obvious mistakes, without considering those errors could - as often happens - be coming from town.

No, I haven't pushed any slots which may be more concealed mafia because I thought obvious scum was RIGHT THERE.

[KittyTacky]

I'm sorry Italiano but you shouldn't have pushed NK15 after the claim. That's just sus amogus.

Well I still think there's at least one scum between HEM and Mala.

Look at this post for example. The first thing Kitty said after Italiano's elimination. They were entirely concerned with ensuring their read on Italiano - despite being wrong - could appear justified to the rest of the town. Keep in mind Kitty said this and yet is now pushing for the elimination of and is sitting on a claimed roleplayer. Clearly anti-town play is fine when it's to their own self-benefit.

Claiming day 1 =/= claiming day 4 when under pressure. Your actions also don't make much sense for your role.

[KittyTacky]

Yes you claimed but you are also opportunistically using my mistakes as leverage to get me hanged.

[KittyTacky]

Note Roden and Kitty are both staying firmly away from these gameplay discussions for the most part, because the current state of the game likely suits them so long as I am at risk.

Well I won't support myself being in POE so I think we should flip you today.

[KittyTacky]

I'm sorry Italiano but you shouldn't have pushed NK15 after the claim. That's just sus amogus.

Well I still think there's at least one scum between HEM and Mala.

I now wonder how much of this game is just the town cannibalizing each other meanwhile scum just ride out the waves trying to stoke that fire.

Yeah same, town self-destructed with that day 1 mass claim.

Roden prob town. At least one scum between Mala and Malcolm. HEM not that scummy anymore now that I look at him again.

This is pretty much the extent of Kitty's D3 play that is either not exclusively about me likely being scum, or defending themselves from my reads. Does this look like a player who is genuinely interested in the gamestate as town or who is trying to figure out my alignment genuinely?

The cardinal sin of defending yourself from a tunneled push.

[KittyTacky]

If we're thinking Mala is safe, then the game is essentially a lock, but I don't feel 100% about that, especially after what I pointed out very recently.

I agree with this thought. I am not sold on Mala town but you Me and Roden is a pretty good town block.

Mainly I think with the fact Malcolm hasn’t been turbo yeeted means Malcolm is scum or scum don’t want to elim Malcolm for some reason.

Like it’s weird.

Is there a reason you townread Malcolm Gamma?

Yea like they would say in TOS,

slow votes on malcolm

[KittyTacky]

I feel like Kitty has been getting heat all game, but it never really seemed like they were in danger of getting eliminated.

Hey I'm good at defending myself in spite of my town playstyle that usually ends up with heat on me.

[KittyTacky]

I'm focused on anti-town play because scum is also anti-town.

[KittyTacky]

Alright, let's try something.

VOTE: Kitty

How do you not see he's scum misrepping me. -_-

[KittyTacky]

I'm a VT BTW. If I get hanged now, don't let Malcolm get away tomorrow.

[Malakittens]

VOTE: mt

[humaneatingmonkey]

Guys what are we doing

[humaneatingmonkey]

Why are we about to elim the claimed PR

[humaneatingmonkey]

VOTE: mt

Just look at this

this is an opportunist in action

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: mt

why are you opting to vote malcolm now?

[MathBlade]

VOTE: Unvote

I don’t like that naked vote. To be clear I think Malcom should be the elim but that naked vote makes me scared

[Malakittens]

I was sheeping my boi

Tbh I’m just not feeling the game right now.

Obv my HEM wagon isn’t gonna happen. I kinda don’t like the JK claim with the two flipped prs.

Also unless this vig is this random red herring. Where is it and where are the shots

[Gamma Emerald]

Pretty sure the vig is a red herring rn

[MalcolmTucker]

I think Mala is mostly just largely inactive for what it's worth but I could be too tunnelled here.