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Post Post #5525 (ISO) » Sat May 07, 2022 6:42 am

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I have a guilty. Why wouldn't I push for them to be eliminated?

The more you push for Town-FL the more likely he is to be scum, to be frank, based on your voting history.
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Post Post #5526 (ISO) » Sat May 07, 2022 6:42 am

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3 nightkills would prove a killing role but not alignment
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Post Post #5527 (ISO) » Sat May 07, 2022 6:43 am

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In post 5523, Klick wrote:It's not provable tho.
What circumstances would actually prove that FL killed someone instead of having his scumteam do it?

All I see in the night results is that Mafia killed catboi. There aren't any other drawable conclusions.
Mafia shot somewhere else and got their kill saved
mafia holstered due to the kill mechs

mafia double tapped alongside FL



pretty easy conclusions - but you're mafia yourself and TMI'd that the conclusion is a double shot so thanks
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Post Post #5528 (ISO) » Sat May 07, 2022 6:43 am

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scum vigs are not normal
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Post Post #5529 (ISO) » Sat May 07, 2022 6:44 am

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not quite
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Post Post #5530 (ISO) » Sat May 07, 2022 6:44 am

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nice try trying to paint a scum vig as possible btw
but no, this is supposed to be a normal game with normal balancing with some adjustments

scum vig is one of the most egregiously non normal things possible
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Post Post #5531 (ISO) » Sat May 07, 2022 6:45 am

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In post 2, Cephrir wrote:Alignment assignment and role design had a random element; as a result, the setup may break certain common assumptions, such as the idea that a neighborhood cannot be composed entirely of members of the same scumteam. If you find yourself thinking the mod would never make some particular role town or scum, you are probably wrong
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Post Post #5532 (ISO) » Sat May 07, 2022 6:46 am

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there's a huge leap between

scum vig and

masonry with all scum
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Post Post #5533 (ISO) » Sat May 07, 2022 6:47 am

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If you find yourself thinking the mod would never make some particular role town or scum, you are probably wrong
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Post Post #5534 (ISO) » Sat May 07, 2022 6:47 am

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In post 5527, SCP 682 wrote:
In post 5523, Klick wrote:It's not provable tho.
What circumstances would actually prove that FL killed someone instead of having his scumteam do it?

All I see in the night results is that Mafia killed catboi. There aren't any other drawable conclusions.
Mafia shot somewhere else and got their kill saved
mafia holstered due to the kill mechs

mafia double tapped alongside FL



pretty easy conclusions - but you're mafia yourself and TMI'd that the conclusion is a double shot so thanks
This notably doesn't say how FL's role can actually be proven in any reliable way in favor of pushing me as scum again.

You don't have an answer, do you?
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Post Post #5535 (ISO) » Sat May 07, 2022 6:48 am

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We've also ALREADY seen scum flip with a role that could cause extra nightkills
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Post Post #5536 (ISO) » Sat May 07, 2022 6:50 am

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im figuring out what exactly catboi's role does if i can rn
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Post Post #5537 (ISO) » Sat May 07, 2022 6:50 am

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the fact we got flips without role pms describing their abilities is kinda lame to me considering the non-normal roles that dont have established ways they work
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Post Post #5538 (ISO) » Sat May 07, 2022 6:50 am

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Bookie - player pms mod that a certain role will be eliminated the next day, if they are right they gain vig powers the next night.
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Post Post #5539 (ISO) » Sat May 07, 2022 6:51 am

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In post 5525, MonkeyMan576 wrote:I have a guilty. Why wouldn't I push for them to be eliminated?

The more you push for Town-FL the more likely he is to be scum, to be frank, based on your voting history.
I'm just going to sigh as you both go after each other.

Ignore his vote record. Go for mine.
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Post Post #5540 (ISO) » Sat May 07, 2022 6:52 am

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Let's avoid mechanics and pissing contests and go where most people agree scum is.
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Post Post #5541 (ISO) » Sat May 07, 2022 6:52 am

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In post 5538, MonkeyMan576 wrote:Bookie - player pms mod that a certain role will be eliminated the next day, if they are right they gain vig powers the next night.
im not going off the wiki.
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Post Post #5542 (ISO) » Sat May 07, 2022 6:54 am

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Yeah that would be too logical.
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Post Post #5543 (ISO) » Sat May 07, 2022 6:54 am

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ok but when you flip someone as a power role it should be clear exactly what that role does and its frustrating that idk what catboi can do
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Post Post #5544 (ISO) » Sat May 07, 2022 6:57 am

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Since I've been asked and I didn't intend for this to be unclear, the abilities of all flipped players thus far match their wiki descriptions. If this is ever not the case or a role that doesn't exist on the wiki is flipped, I'll clarify that along with the flip.
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Post Post #5545 (ISO) » Sat May 07, 2022 7:03 am

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VOTE: Flavor Leaf k then this makes more sense as mafia
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Post Post #5546 (ISO) » Sat May 07, 2022 7:04 am

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In post 5545, DkKoba wrote:VOTE: Flavor Leaf k then this makes more sense as mafia
VOTE: Flavor Leaf
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Post Post #5547 (ISO) » Sat May 07, 2022 7:04 am

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FL never softed vig before n1 and the restriction aligns with how restrictive catboi's role was
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Post Post #5548 (ISO) » Sat May 07, 2022 7:07 am

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In post 5547, SCP 682 wrote:FL never softed vig before n1 and the restriction aligns with how restrictive catboi's role was
Explain please.
This just feels like you're pissed at Flavor for yesterday.
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Post Post #5549 (ISO) » Sat May 07, 2022 7:07 am

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Also, why does anyone need to soft?
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