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i'll be honest im ready to die and then watch the full throw tomm because like
reading that frogster n1 pt will be worth it
im really not feeling like efforting if nobody caresShow"I can't even look at the game anymore.
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i have issues with people not caring but I realize I'm in the minority and you all deserve to play the game you want to playShow"I can't even look at the game anymore.
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I care! I'm hear and going to be reading up and maybe finally picking up my reread again. I will look through Bell a lot more closely this go around"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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here* not hear jeez that does not bode well for how much I need to engage my brain now lmao"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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I was towncasing you in the PT and waffling between Enchant/AndanteIn post 6222, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:If GuiltyLion is in the PT claiming that he will vote for Pooky - then scum in PT have no reason to blow GLion up."I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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I've already said this but to be explicitly clear, I would not blow up anyone except Andante, mainly/primarily because she already has a defuseIn post 6234, Dwlee99 wrote:Point about being able to lie about what GL said is true, but if I were in there I know I won't lie about it and so getting more time for conftown opinion seems good to me.
so if I am an expert and die and somebody claims I decided to blow up the bomb in the PT, that is a lie"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- Enchant
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oh I don't think I need to be an expert, I think you are right that it's actually better to shrink scum's pool of defusers by nominating two uncleared playersIn post 6243, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
the last scum is a switcher so pretty sure they can just switch themselves into the team even if they dont get voted inIn post 6241, Enchant wrote:Depends if scum makes it in expert team and will able to blow up.
I just wanted it on record in case y'all do make me an expert that I'm not going to blow up the bomb
as for experts, I think we should go with
HEAL: Dwlee99
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whoops, didn't mean to quote that Pooky post"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- Enchant
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VC 1.07
VC 1.09In post 991, Datisi wrote:
Bell,fireisredsir [4]:Menalque, Dwlee99,Malakittens
Morning Tweet [4]:Cephrir, fireisredsir, GuiltyLion, Titus
VP Baltar [3]:Frogsterking, PookyTheMagicalBear, Cat Scratch Fever
GuiltyLion [1]:Morning Tweet
Cephrir [1]:Greeting
Frogsterking [1]:StrangeMatter
StrangeMatter [1]:VP Baltar
not voting [5]:Andresvmb, Andante,catboi, The Bulge
I feel these are informative VCs, we have 4 confirmed town all voting a scum, so scum are likely maneuvering around that. Dwlee unvoting fire and moving to me is ++town I believe, as they were dismantling a counterwagon to scum. Pooky and CSF both parking their votes on VPB when there was a fair amount of suspicion on VPB through D1 are good looks. Enchant would later go on to vanity vote catboi, absolutely not a useful vote. I'm remembering that I really have not liked any of Enchant's voting behavior this entire game.In post 1268, Datisi wrote:
Morning Tweet [4]:Cephrir, fireisredsir, GuiltyLion, Titus
Bell,fireisredsir [3]:Menalque,Malakittens
VP Baltar [3]:Frogsterking, PookyTheMagicalBear, Cat Scratch Fever
GuiltyLion [2]:Morning Tweet, Dwlee99
Frogsterking [1]:StrangeMatter
StrangeMatter [1]:VP Baltar
not voting [5]:Andresvmb, Andante,catboi, Enchant,Greeting
Dwlee I don't think you should put a ton of stock into Enchant's healing everyone or suggesting to put scummy players in the initial N1 bomb expert groups. Words are cheap, Enchant didn't really do much to actually try to shove a scum into the town block so I don't think it's strong evidence for him being town."I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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Later we have an Andres wagon spring up
Andante hopping on Misty wagon is +++town. keeping in mind too Tweet/Misty had the strongest scum PR. I doubt CSF is scum in this VC as well just because I rarely if ever see three scum all bloc together on a wagon like that, especially since the fire wagon still had a lot of legs, there'd be no need to push a new wagonIn post 1875, Datisi wrote:Bell,fireisredsir [5]:Menalque,Malakittens,catboi, Dwlee99
Andresvmb [5]:Frogsterking,VP Baltar, Cat Scratch Fever,Mistyx,fireisredsir
Mistyx [4]:Cephrir, GuiltyLion, Titus, Andante
PookyTheMagicalBearVP Baltar [1]:
Frogsterking [1]:StrangeMatter
Enchantcatboi [1]:
not voting [2]:Andresvmb, Greeting"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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Pooky, why are you townreading Enchant?
I am considering you town here but I don't vibe with the Bell scumread at all really. I'm going to keep doing my homework today but it feels like you pivoted to Bell when I and others indicated we thought Enchant defusing my bomb was a townie action. I would think if you are town Enchant would be the first person I'd flip so I want to understand what prompted you to rule him out"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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Part of the reason I can't ever feel truly good about a Pooky townread is thisIn post 2187, Datisi wrote:Menalque, PookyTheMagicalBear, Cat Scratch Fever, Cephrir - group 2 bomb experts
VP Baltar - group 2 bomb defuser
why would scum!VPB put himself in a hood with four townies one of whom has been scumreading and voting him all day
it just seems like it makes much more sense in the world where Pooky is scum and can decide to either:
1. blow up VPB and reap towncred for it all game
or
2. if consensus seems like they want to defuse, roll with consensus to make sure his buddy lives and gets a defuse"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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also, what do we think scum was informed of via Mala's role? The only thing I can think would make sense is the existence of (probably) 4 protectives"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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I've been reading pages 50-90 but barely gleaned anything useful from it, a lot of the thread energy during that time is dead players sorting fire/Andres
Gonna take a break now but be back later"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- Cat Scratch Fever
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yes! I'm back from V/LA, and I never got to finish my reread yesterdayIn post 6404, Dwlee99 wrote:I figure GL and CSF will also care after mother's day
and I'm rereading today's posts right now because I've been skimming here and there- PookyTheMagicalBear
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I think it makes sense to blow up the person tonight because Elo at 4/5 is exactly the same thing and at 4 you have more information than at 5.In post 6408, GuiltyLion wrote:
I've already said this but to be explicitly clear, I would not blow up anyone except Andante, mainly/primarily because she already has a defuseIn post 6234, Dwlee99 wrote:Point about being able to lie about what GL said is true, but if I were in there I know I won't lie about it and so getting more time for conftown opinion seems good to me.
so if I am an expert and die and somebody claims I decided to blow up the bomb in the PT, that is a lieShow"I can't even look at the game anymore.
That evil teddy bear has got everyone twirling by his thumb.
It's like witnessing an slow but unavoidable train crash you can't stop."
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In post 6415, GuiltyLion wrote:Pooky, why are you townreading Enchant?
I am considering you town here but I don't vibe with the Bell scumread at all really. I'm going to keep doing my homework today but it feels like you pivoted to Bell when I and others indicated we thought Enchant defusing my bomb was a townie action. I would think if you are town Enchant would be the first person I'd flip so I want to understand what prompted you to rule him out
I didn't like how Bell said we should deadsheep Mena and eliminate Pooky->Enchant because it feels like playing on autopilot.
I find town that are looking for the last scum in a large theme often lose because of playing on autopilot and just going down the POE because they made a decision on someone's alignment too early and they stopped re-evaluating as the game went on.
Like in Death Curse - last scum wasShow"I can't even look at the game anymore.
That evil teddy bear has got everyone twirling by his thumb.
It's like witnessing an slow but unavoidable train crash you can't stop."
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I didn't like how Bell said we should deadsheep Mena and eliminate Pooky->Enchant because it feels like playing on autopilot.
I find town that are looking for the last scum in a large theme often lose because of playing on autopilot and just going down the POE because they made a decision on someone's alignment too early and they stopped re-evaluating as the game went on.
Like in Death Curse - last scum was literally the top townread of the entire town for reasons that actually on re-examination were nonsensical.
And Bell also pushed me and killed me as the last elimination before ELO and we managed to turn things around by shaking out every slot and figuring out it was actually Noraa with a very high degree of certainty.
I am telling Bell the exact same thing here and he just doesn't care. Except this time there is no Pooky with a scroll that can save everyone cuz me dying is actually dying here. You guys are going to have to figure it out on your own tommorrow.
And like Bell just doesn't give a fuck. He recognizes what the game state is - he knows I'm probably getting eliminated today and he's not interested at all in hashing things out with me - he just wants to get my elimination over with.
I don't think Town!him treats me with that level of "idgaf" cuz like he's not actually good at reading me and he's not been right about a single thing this game so I don't get how he thinks it's ok to just turn off his thinking cap and plug away like flipping me is going to end the game.Show"I can't even look at the game anymore.
That evil teddy bear has got everyone twirling by his thumb.
It's like witnessing an slow but unavoidable train crash you can't stop."
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I am not good at reading Enchant because Enchant doesn't really care and it's very hard for me to read intentionality of people who don't care.
Like even now he is saying he wants to eliminate me but he doesn't suspect me.??
that's just how he plays the game because he has a policy of not caring very much.
I guess I would like to be more like him and care less.Show"I can't even look at the game anymore.
That evil teddy bear has got everyone twirling by his thumb.
It's like witnessing an slow but unavoidable train crash you can't stop."
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I am not a POE player because I think it doesn't make for meaningful conversations/games and I find it can fail many times if people subvert meta or try to shift their meta.
I constantly try to incorporate parts of my town game into my scum game because I think it's the ideal way to improve your scum game.
I am actively scumreading multiple actions Bell has undertaken this game and I'd love to talk to people about them or things you are town-reading Bell for.
these include:
(a) fluffy/nonexistent interactions with scum partners on D1[soft defenses etc]
(b) pushed multiple town elims with little re-evaluation
(c) tried to sow paranoia in an all town Cephrir-Titus-Pooky-GLion hood and then they started dying[Cephrir, Titus]
(d) did not try very hard to join the expert team on d1 (convenient because one of them was framed)
(e) not really being very solvy or showing any depth/nuance of thought - everything feels like a one dimensional caricature of a death tunnel [kill fire, kill SM, kill Pooky]Show"I can't even look at the game anymore.
That evil teddy bear has got everyone twirling by his thumb.
It's like witnessing an slow but unavoidable train crash you can't stop."
-Norwee
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