Micro 1054 || Fuzzy Friends Coalition || Game Over!

[Menalque]

I don't really have any scum reads yet but I don't think that any of (you, skitt, dats, nk15, std) have done enough to warrant inclusion on the coalition yet, with a marginally lower objection to dats being there than anyone else

do you think any of mala/fire/you have done more than the people on my list?

not really

hence why I don't like talking about a complete list at all

[Datisi]

hello i am alive

i will be reading through what i missed properly in a bit, but there are two things i wanna cover right away

re 224:

(1) i healed malakittens because 8 is a post that i don't think? scum makes if they have a pregame chat with their partner and either one of them has bothered to plan ahead. because afair recent coalition games usually started with "hello i am healing a random group of people" not "i am voting for a random person". and someone who went to check previous games would probably remember that.

if you're now thinking "wow that's bullshit, scum can be lazy and not check previous games for meta", yes, absolutely! which is why it's a townping based on a single post on page 1 rather than a read set in stone!

(2) irrel: enters the game saying how he's haha so town while doing nothing that a townie entering the game would be doing
also irrel: why am i being questioned

yes, i get that this section is probably(?) criticizing me for my vocabulary choice and not the substance of the question. but it gives me a way to introduce my reasoning for the third point so i am taking it while making fun of the criticism because i'm pretty sure irrel can also see it's not a very good point.

(3) boy oh boy.

first, i don't do second hand meta cases. i know you've never played with me so it's very unlikely you know this, but i've said this multiple times over in the past.

then, the reason why i almost decided you were "just scum" was because you entered that game and had some sorta game-related action within a minute of entering. while here, you entered the game with "wow look at me i sure did roll town in this game" and then nothing for a while.

the *reason* why seeing you start at post 900 was that it made me realize that, oh shit, you were a replacement that game, therefore there was much more content in that game once you started playing in it than in this one, and you could've been reading the game yourself before you repped in, which is all variables that i cannot control and do not care to control therefore it's easier to just dump my case in the trash.

what did you think was my point here anyway? that i arbitrarily decided to trash my case because you just so happened to be a replacement that game?

[skitter30]

I guess one way you could tell is that I'm trying to dial back on my thread presence because last time it was quite unpleasant for everyone that I was that loud and forceful and I wouldn't really exercise similar restraint if I'm mafia because I'd feel obligated to force my way into coalition whereas here I'm fine letting others lead.

I think you're much more pleasant this time around :)
(Not inherently convinced it makes yoh town tho)

[Menalque]

I mean I guess I feel like I have now, but I think that's the perpetual bias of thinking-that-you're-being-very-towny-when-town-even-though-it's-not-so-clear-to-anyone-else

so I don't expect

you

to see me as townier than other people on your list

[Aristeia]

I work with what I have.

TRs don't exist in a vacuum they are relative to what's happened so far.

If you don't like my list you should have a either a scumread on the list[someone you think is scum on the list for ____ reason] or you think i left someone out[you think player ___ is more deserving on being on my list for ___ reason]

It feels like your complaint is more about that my list is too early rather than any issue with the quality?

[Datisi]

which, by the way

i get accused of being scum because i'm "overexplain-y"

but if i don't explain things i do properly, then this kinda shit happens where i get points made against me based on ??? people's weird interpretations of my posts

i'm not mad no not mad at all

[skitter30]

Fwiw i've played many games with irrel, albeit not really recently

I linked that one in particular because it was the first round of coalition ever iirc and it was a Good Game with a good pl

I wasnt trying to imply anything r.e. meta or how we should be reading his alignment here

[Aristeia]

Hi Dats <3

[Datisi]

I don't really have any scum reads yet but I don't think that any of (you, skitt, dats, nk15, std) have done enough to warrant inclusion on the coalition yet,

with a marginally lower objection to dats being there than anyone else

i am interested in the bolded

[skitter30]

Hi Dats <3

[Datisi]

Hi Dats <3

hi ari <3

did you solve the game for me while i was gone? i wanna get carried again :>

[Aristeia]

I don't really have any scum reads yet but I don't think that any of (you, skitt, dats, nk15, std) have done enough to warrant inclusion on the coalition yet, with a marginally lower objection to dats being there than anyone else

do you think any of mala/fire/you have done more than the people on my list?

not really

hence why I don't like talking about a complete list at all

I'm responding to Irre asking me for my reads, he didn't like that I have no heals.

I did this to show where I am at in my current thought process. I don't have heals down because I don't feel finalized about anything and it's also a pain in the butt to heal people on mobile.

[Aristeia]

Hi Dats <3

hi ari <3

did you solve the game for me while i was gone? i wanna get carried again :>

I was actually hoping you could carry me this time so I could feel like a princess <3

[skitter30]

Ugh dats feels scummy to me but its possible i just dont know how to read him >.>

[Datisi]

the other thing i wanted to note down is:

nk15 is really not as townie as people make him out to be for not trying to get into the coalition or whatever. first problem with that an "optimal" route is to get one scum in, not two anyway. second is that, from what i remember from playing with nk15 in rc's upick and skimming his game in that anon game, is that his scum!performance is much more similar to this. like i could actually *feel* the thought process behind his actions in rc's upick, even if they were actions i really did not agree with. and third, nk15 has never played with both me and ari, he's played with me once in recent times and not sure how many times he's played with ari. i find it extremely dubious that he would think he could nail the exact scumteam based on one (1) interaction he has no prior experience with, and that he would be so confident in that read he wouldn't bother reading other people.

[Datisi]

Ugh dats feels scummy to me but its possible i just dont know how to read him >.>

i'm around and will be around so you can ask me stuff if you want, but atp i have a feeling that you scumreading me just means that i am present in the game

[Menalque]

It feels like your complaint is more about that my list is too early rather than any issue with the quality?

to me they are one and the same

I guess Relly asking you to heal some people makes sense for producing it, but I guess I'm still confused by why those names vs any of the other three names when most names haven't really done anything yet to be worthy of inclusion

[Save The Dragons]

UNVOTE:

i'd probably add menalque to my coalition at this point. i don't agree with the point about skitter/ari being dangerous to add to a coalition but i like what they've said otherwise

[Menalque]

I don't really have any scum reads yet but I don't think that any of (you, skitt, dats, nk15, std) have done enough to warrant inclusion on the coalition yet,

with a marginally lower objection to dats being there than anyone else

i am interested in the bolded

is it going to annoy you if I tell you that I don't want to explain yet?

[Menalque]

i don't agree with the point about skitter/ari being dangerous to add to a coalition but i like what they've said otherwise

could you go into this more for me please?

[Datisi]

I don't really have any scum reads yet but I don't think that any of (you, skitt, dats, nk15, std) have done enough to warrant inclusion on the coalition yet,

with a marginally lower objection to dats being there than anyone else

i am interested in the bolded

is it going to annoy you if I tell you that I don't want to explain yet?

it is very much going to annoy me, yes

but alright, keep your secrets

[Menalque]

I don't really have any scum reads yet but I don't think that any of (you, skitt, dats, nk15, std) have done enough to warrant inclusion on the coalition yet,

with a marginally lower objection to dats being there than anyone else

i am interested in the bolded

is it going to annoy you if I tell you that I don't want to explain yet?

it is very much going to annoy me, yes

but alright, keep your secrets

I promise I'll explain why before the EoD1 and you can hold me to that

prob before we even coalition, I'm just still wanting to let some stuff develop naturally

[skitter30]

Ugh dats feels scummy to me but its possible i just dont know how to read him >.>

i'm around and will be around so you can ask me stuff if you want, but atp i have a feeling that you scumreading me just means that i am present in the game

Fair enuf! I have to pretend to do my job now but i'll see if i have anythinf else to ask u later

[Aristeia]

Ugh dats feels scummy to me but its possible i just dont know how to read him >.>

maybe you're doing that trick where you push him to get me to townread him that you did in that large normal that I still have no idea how to counter :<

[Aristeia]

brain feels mushy I might just give up and let Fen or Irrel carry me because they sound like they know what they are doing hehe.