Micro 1054 || Fuzzy Friends Coalition || Game Over!

[skitter30]

I dunno I think most of what I found weird about Datisi/Aristeia is being resolved by
-both working hard for town (maybe, maybe I'm accidentally just townreading lots of posts)
-reading a bit of their shared history, which is explaining why their earlygame dynamic seemed so complex so quickly

Why is it scummy for their shared history to... not repeat itself exactly as it has before?

yeah they have a lot of shared history + i would expect a complex earlygame dynamic
i think what threw me off was ari going into 'serious' mode so quickly, and towards dats
if she is going to go into serious mode, i wouldn't expect it to be towards dats
(she could totally go into serious mode to push someone else tho)
so like i'm not sure it's inherently scummy, but it felt *weird* in a way that doesn't feel right for tvt either

also: HEAL: irrelephant

[Irrelephant11]

Boring game if it's mala/nk15

[Irrelephant11]

if she is going to go into serious mode, i wouldn't expect it to be towards dats

did you see the context that lead to 47?

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13280094

Makes sense to me that Datisi's "I'm town" would lead to Aristeia going "hang onnnnnnnnnnn not gonna get tricked again! you wanna really play? fine let's play"

[Irrelephant11]

why

[skitter30]

did you roll town Dats? :)

i'm town

i will try my best to be townie and to read four more people correctly so that we win with a successful coalition

will you be joining me?

I guess that would depend on how townie you are and whether you can read me correctly as townie in the next couple of days :)

I guess that would depend on how townie you are and whether you can read me correctly as townie in the next couple of days :)

why do already i feel like you are keeping your distance from me this game :<

i'm p sure you meant these @irrel?

yes i've seen them, and for those two in particular ari's response doesn't match the context/tone of the above

[Aristeia]

huh

I don't remember pushing Dats?

[Irrelephant11]

did you roll town Dats?

i'm town

i will try my best to be townie and to read four more people correctly so that we win with a successful coalition

will you be joining me?

I guess that would depend on how townie you are and whether you can read me correctly as townie in the next couple of days

I guess that would depend on how townie you are and whether you can read me correctly as townie in the next couple of days

why do already i feel like you are keeping your distance from me this game :<

i'm p sure you meant these @irrel?

yes i've seen them, and for those two in particular ari's response doesn't match the context/tone of the above

No I'm saying the shared history context. "I'm town" is a thing from their shared history so datisi saying it is triggering(? better word for this probably) for aristeia and explains why her tone shifted

[Aristeia]

uh it wasn't triggering for me

he always tells me he's town and I always ask him anyway because I like asking him

[Aristeia]

I probably asked him the most times in this game:

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=88600

it is fun to ask him

[skitter30]

no, all of hte posts that i quoted are p much exactly in line with how i'd expect their interactions to go
47 wasn't, and that's why it felt weird

pedit ty for doing my homework for me >.>

[Aristeia]

Skitter if you reread their early game do you still think they’re being awkward in a scummy way

yeah (particularly 47) but not as bad as i did before
so maybe i'm just tunneled idk
i really don't like the context of 47 + it's surrounding dialogue tho

~
HURT: all
HEAL: mena
HEAL: std
VOTE: mala

47 was responding to 40 because I felt he had misunderstood my response to him.

I don't think I was ever pushing him this game? I'm confused where you're reading that I went into serious push mode vs him?

[skitter30]

i'm not saying i think you pushed him
(or if i said that (i don't think i did?) that's not what i meant at least)

maybe i worded it badly but what i was trying to say is that the the tone/seriousness of 47 is out of character for you wrt dats at that stage, and that's what's pinging me abt it

it is very possible i am reading way too much into this, but that's what i felt abt it

[Malakittens]

Rude.

[skitter30]

in that ...

[Ydrasse]

VOTECOUNT 1.1

Not Known 15 [5]:

Menalque, Not Known 15, skitter30, fireisredsir, Irrelephant11
-

Irrelephant11 [5]:

Irrelephant11, Save the Dragons, Aristeia, Menalque, skitter30
-

Save the Dragons [5]:

Save the Dragons, skitter30, Aristeia, Menalque, Irrelephant11
-

fireisredsir [5]:

fireisredsir, skitter30, Not Known 15, Irrelephant11, Malakittens
-

Datisi [4]:

Datisi, Aristeia, skitter30, Menalque
-

skitter30 [3]:

Menalque, Save the Dragons, Irrelephant11
-

Malakittens [3]:

skitter30, Datisi, Aristeia
-

Not Voting [2]:

Menalque, Aristeia

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to form a coalition!

The deadline is in (expired on 2022-05-14 22:40:33).

MOD NOTES

- sorry if this is out of order/unable to be parsed/flat out wrong, i'll sort it better tomorrow if requested. i am tired and have to do these by hand >_<.

- i am not counting votes to eliminate that are made today.

[Aristeia]

2 [Aristeia, Irrelephant11, Menalque, Save the Dragons, Skitter30] - Irrelephant11, Save the Dragons
1 [Fireisredsir, Irrelephant11, Menalque, Not Known 15, Skitter30] - Not Known 15
1 [Fireisredsir, Irrelephant11, Malakittens, Not Known 15, Skitter30] - Fireisredsir
1 [Aristeia, Datisi, Menalque, Skitter30] - Datisi
1 [Aristeia, Datisi, Skitter30] - Malakittens
1 [Irrelephant11, Menalque, Save the Dragons] - Skitter30

Yeet:
2 Skitter30 (Malakittens, Datisi)
2 Malakittens(Irrelephant11, Skitter30)
2 Datisi (Aristeia, Menalque)
1 Aristeia(Not Known 15)

2 Not Voting (Fireisredsir, Save the Dragons)


I think this is right don't yell at me if it's wrong :<

[Aristeia]

Totally unofficial heal count thing so far [probably meaningless]

8 - Skitter (Basically everyone except Menalque)
6 - Irrelephant11 (Aristeia, Irrelephant11, Fireisredsir, Not Known 15, Save the Dragons, Skitter30)
6 - Menalque (Datisi, Irrelephant11, Menalque, Not Known 15, Save the Dragons, Skitter30)
5 - Aristeia (Aristeia, Datisi, Irrelephant11, Malakittens, Save the Dragons)
4 - Save The Dragons (Aristeia, Not Known 15, Save the Dragons, Skitter30)
3 - Not Known 15 (Aristeia, Fireisredsir, Not Known 15)
3 - Datisi (Aristeia, Datisi, Malakittens)
2 - Fireisredsir (Fireisredsir, Not Known 15)
2 - Malakittens (Fireisredsir, Malakittens)

*Assuming everyone is ok with self healing and added my heals in of [ari, dats, nk15, std, irre, skitter]
**Yes I gave myself 6 heals deal with it :>

[skitter30]

Oh no we probably should start coalescing >.>

[Aristeia]

would you like to be dictator since you are widely townread?

[Aristeia]

I'd rather not play the elim portion of the d1 on a two day deadline

[Aristeia]

I guess dictator does have a bad connotation

how about designated town leader person

[fireisredsir]

i am feeling somewhat less favorable towards irrelephant than i was earlier but am unsure who i would replace them with in my personal list. datisi i guess. and maybe mena over mala

HURT: all
HEAL: fireisredsir
HEAL: skitter
HEAL: datisi
HEAL: not known 15
HEAL: menalque

[fireisredsir]

I think datisi is mad at my shading his slot in the same way I've seen happen many times when two people's playstyles don't gel (I think mine and Datisi's don't gel).

I'm over here like "I'll just play and push and pull and read and vote and see if I can achieve some stuff for town without breaking my back"
Datisi is like "Unwritten thoughts don't exist, therefore I will write all of mine and dislike any posts without every thought on paper"

And I poked at him a bit and he got mad in a self-righteous way I think is hard to fake as scum

like this just is pure scum tbh

[fireisredsir]

all the currently proposed teams (until i just changed) have either ari or irrelephant in them and im not especially excited about that

[Aristeia]

I think datisi is mad at my shading his slot in the same way I've seen happen many times when two people's playstyles don't gel (I think mine and Datisi's don't gel).

I'm over here like "I'll just play and push and pull and read and vote and see if I can achieve some stuff for town without breaking my back"
Datisi is like "Unwritten thoughts don't exist, therefore I will write all of mine and dislike any posts without every thought on paper"

And I poked at him a bit and he got mad in a self-righteous way I think is hard to fake as scum

like this just is pure scum tbh

can you elaborate on this read. why is it scumplay?