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Post Post #700 (ISO) » Wed May 11, 2022 5:49 am

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it is high level play
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Post Post #701 (ISO) » Wed May 11, 2022 5:49 am

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I mean tbf that's really just the consensus tr list
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Post Post #702 (ISO) » Wed May 11, 2022 5:49 am

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i do find myself townreading everyone who posts

i think you must all be great at posting :)
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Post Post #703 (ISO) » Wed May 11, 2022 5:54 am

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Anyway I would be shocked if fire/ari was the team
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Post Post #704 (ISO) » Wed May 11, 2022 5:55 am

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Feeling worse about Menalque and still good about std, real cases with deeper reading to come later. Fire is still the scummiest of those posting imo
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Post Post #705 (ISO) » Wed May 11, 2022 5:56 am

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i actually feel better about mena
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Post Post #706 (ISO) » Wed May 11, 2022 5:56 am

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i was thinking maybe leave out mala/me/fire/std?

what do people think of that ?
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Post Post #707 (ISO) » Wed May 11, 2022 6:04 am

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In post 706, Aristeia wrote:i was thinking maybe leave out mala/me/fire/std?

what do people think of that ?
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...no. Ari's partner is in that list(Likely Datisi). And her designated D1 lim, myself. No thanks.
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Post Post #708 (ISO) » Wed May 11, 2022 6:08 am

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gosh you see through my evil designs so quickly NK15

what am I going to do with you :)
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Post Post #709 (ISO) » Wed May 11, 2022 6:08 am

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Nk why are u convinced its ari/dats again?
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Post Post #710 (ISO) » Wed May 11, 2022 6:15 am

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In post 706, Aristeia wrote:i was thinking maybe leave out mala/me/fire/std?

what do people think of that ?
im ok with that but if 2 people outside of it are ok with it what are the chances its right

then again i guess what are the chances that scum being left out will loudly oppose a correct solve
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Post Post #711 (ISO) » Wed May 11, 2022 6:18 am

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take a shot every time nk15 ignores a question he was asked
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Post Post #712 (ISO) » Wed May 11, 2022 6:19 am

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ari how are you still certain enough nk15 is town that you wanna coalition him?
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Post Post #713 (ISO) » Wed May 11, 2022 6:23 am

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It's not a high conviction read.
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Post Post #714 (ISO) » Wed May 11, 2022 6:29 am

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In post 709, skitter30 wrote:Nk why are u convinced its ari/dats again?
I have no credible explanation for their early interactions except SvS.
Yes, it's early, but I have not seen anything that would make me reconsider, and that idea by ari(putting me into that coalition) just smells.
Why does Ari not want to be on the coalition?
This is different from being not in a specific coalition.
But Ari doesn't want that at all. Mechanics tell you that this is a terrible idea. Actively removing yourself from that pool hurts win chances. And Ari knows mechanics.
Scum ari, however...
-isn't under immediate pressure as town seeks the scum on the list, and is free to manipulate the gamestate.
-gets more town on the list instead of being stuck with 2 scum in the list.

However, if the scumteam is ari/datisi, then me being off the list doesn't leave ari with much choice - she needs to get rid of me sooner than later, and somehow put me into a spot where I am a possible lim instead of a dangerous person from outside the list.
Scum needs to plan forward. A list with her and Datisi with me outside would fail, but leave her team in a terrible state.
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Post Post #715 (ISO) » Wed May 11, 2022 6:50 am

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"i was thinking maybe leave out mala/me/fire/std?"

the way I'm approaching this - I don't really care much about being in the coalition as long as my scumreads are left off coalition.[As nice as it would be to flirt with Dats in a coalition together I won't be like heartbroken if I'm not on it and we win]

If I'm wrong I'll know when coalition fails and it's like a new game for me.

me and fire both kind of think mala is mafia which is why she's out.

I kind of still not sure about fire so I'm sitting out with him.[last night's posting was good but I suck at untunneling]

and fire thinks the mala partner is between irrel/std and I guess I kind of like the STD scumread better? I'm kind of just giving this to him cuz he wants it and I could be wrong on him.
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Post Post #716 (ISO) » Wed May 11, 2022 6:51 am

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I guess I could be ok with irrel instead of STD if that's what fire wants.

my brain is mushy on those two
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Post Post #717 (ISO) » Wed May 11, 2022 7:00 am

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In post 716, Aristeia wrote:I guess I could be ok with irrel instead of STD if that's what fire wants.

my brain is mushy on those two
Why don't you want skitter/NK15/aristeia/Datisi/menalque, then?
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Post Post #718 (ISO) » Wed May 11, 2022 7:01 am

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cuz skitter/mena don't trust me and I don't deal well with being pushed
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Post Post #719 (ISO) » Wed May 11, 2022 7:02 am

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like I'm trying to win with what I think the scumteam is but also have missing not be as bad.
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Post Post #720 (ISO) » Wed May 11, 2022 7:03 am

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In post 714, Not Known 15 wrote:I have no credible explanation for their early interactions except SvS.
Yes, it's early,
It's not early
The only reason this setup is fair is because town can win by coalition,And time for coalition-ing is running out. If you’re town you’ve basically missed the one phase that contains most of town’s win equity. I forget the math but your play sucks and it’s a Big Deal (though change nothing if you’re scum)
It boggles my mind that you are clearly reading the thread but have no reads besides a single SvS from page 2.
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Post Post #721 (ISO) » Wed May 11, 2022 7:05 am

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In post 720, Irrelephant11 wrote:
In post 714, Not Known 15 wrote:I have no credible explanation for their early interactions except SvS.
Yes, it's early,
It's not early
The only reason this setup is fair is because town can win by coalition,And time for coalition-ing is running out. If you’re town you’ve basically missed the one phase that contains most of town’s win equity. I forget the math but your play sucks and it’s a Big Deal (though change nothing if you’re scum)
It boggles my mind that you are clearly reading the thread but have no reads besides a single SvS from page 2.
The read is early. Not the gamestate.
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Post Post #722 (ISO) » Wed May 11, 2022 7:10 am

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In post 720, Irrelephant11 wrote:
In post 714, Not Known 15 wrote:I have no credible explanation for their early interactions except SvS.
Yes, it's early,
It's not early
The only reason this setup is fair is because town can win by coalition,And time for coalition-ing is running out. If you’re town you’ve basically missed the one phase that contains most of town’s win equity. I forget the math but your play sucks and it’s a Big Deal (though change nothing if you’re scum)
It boggles my mind that you are clearly reading the thread but have no reads besides a single SvS from page 2.
A single SvS means that all others are automatically town.
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Post Post #723 (ISO) » Wed May 11, 2022 7:12 am

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But a person can hold two thoughts in their brain at once. You can think it’s s/s and look for scumminess elsewhere in case you’re wrong
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Post Post #724 (ISO) » Wed May 11, 2022 7:13 am

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PSA: THIS IS NOT THE PHASE TO PLAY LAZY. UNLIKE MOST SETUPS, THIS PHASE IS MUCH MORE IMPORTANT THAN ANY THAT FOLLOW. TREAT IT LIKE ELO IF YOU WANT TOWN TO WIN
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