Micro 1054 || Fuzzy Friends Coalition || Game Over!

[Aristeia]

ok this might be a stupid read but

NK15 can only be scum imo with Datisi because NK15!scum loves to derptunnel his scum teammates.

I know I'm town and I think Dats is town so I guess that makes NK15 town.

it's a bad meta read wrapped in moonlogic I know :M

[fireisredsir]

I guess I could be ok with irrel instead of STD if that's what fire wants.

my brain is mushy on those two

what makes you want to take what i want into account? what's your read on me now?

[Aristeia]

well if im right that you r mafia with mala the game is over and it doesnt matter that i let you pick the 4th person left out

and if im wrong then i want you to get a shot of winning the game for us.

[Aristeia]

i still kind of think you r mafia but i am less certain of it now.

[Irrelephant11]

ok this might be a stupid read but

NK15 can only be scum imo with Datisi because NK15!scum loves to derptunnel his scum teammates.

I know I'm town and I think Dats is town so I guess that makes NK15 town.

it's a bad meta read wrapped in moonlogic I know :M

Can ari be town for this post alone

[Save The Dragons]

got bad news today not sure if i'll be around

[Irrelephant11]

Hope all is okay, do what you need to do and don’t stress about our silly game

[skitter30]

<3 std hope everything is ok

[skitter30]

I have no credible explanation for their early interactions except SvS.
Yes, it's early, but I have not seen anything that would make me reconsider, and that idea by ari(putting me into that coalition) just smells.
Why does Ari not want to be on the coalition?
This is different from being not in a specific coalition.
But Ari doesn't want that at all. Mechanics tell you that this is a terrible idea. Actively removing yourself from that pool hurts win chances. And Ari knows mechanics.
Scum ari, however...
-isn't under immediate pressure as town seeks the scum on the list, and is free to manipulate the gamestate.
-gets more town on the list instead of being stuck with 2 scum in the list.

However, if the scumteam is ari/datisi, then me being off the list doesn't leave ari with much choice - she needs to get rid of me sooner than later, and somehow put me into a spot where I am a possible lim instead of a dangerous person from outside the list.
Scum needs to plan forward. A list with her and Datisi with me outside would fail, but leave her team in a terrible state

Ok a few things:
- from your pov why is tvt and tvs unlikely?
- why is bad for scum-ari for 2 scum to be in the coalition?
- dont understand why you being off the list is meaningufil in the ari-in/dats-in vs ari-out/dats-in universes

Like i guess i dont understand your point around the difference between 1 and 2 scum being in. Isnt 2 scum being in better?

[skitter30]

But a person can hold two thoughts in their brain at once. You can think it’s s/s and look for scumminess elsewhere in case you’re wrong

I have no credible explanation for their early interactions except SvS.
Yes, it's early,

It's not early
The only reason this setup is fair is because town can win by coalition,And time for coalition-ing is running out. If you’re town you’ve basically missed the one phase that contains most of town’s win equity. I forget the math but your play sucks and it’s a Big Deal (though change nothing if you’re scum)
It boggles my mind that you are clearly reading the thread but have no reads besides a single SvS from page 2.

A single SvS means that all others are automatically town.

I mean sure but how do u know you're right to the exclusion of all else?

[Not Known 15]

I have no credible explanation for their early interactions except SvS.
Yes, it's early, but I have not seen anything that would make me reconsider, and that idea by ari(putting me into that coalition) just smells.
Why does Ari not want to be on the coalition?
This is different from being not in a specific coalition.
But Ari doesn't want that at all. Mechanics tell you that this is a terrible idea. Actively removing yourself from that pool hurts win chances. And Ari knows mechanics.
Scum ari, however...
-isn't under immediate pressure as town seeks the scum on the list, and is free to manipulate the gamestate.
-gets more town on the list instead of being stuck with 2 scum in the list.

However, if the scumteam is ari/datisi, then me being off the list doesn't leave ari with much choice - she needs to get rid of me sooner than later, and somehow put me into a spot where I am a possible lim instead of a dangerous person from outside the list.
Scum needs to plan forward. A list with her and Datisi with me outside would fail, but leave her team in a terrible state

Ok a few things:
- from your pov why is tvt and tvs unlikely?
- why is bad for scum-ari for 2 scum to be in the coalition?
- dont understand why you being off the list is meaningufil in the ari-in/dats-in vs ari-out/dats-in universes

Like i guess i dont understand your point around the difference between 1 and 2 scum being in. Isnt 2 scum being in better?

1) Because the early interactions were awkward. There is a small chance that I am wrong but it is too small to allow me to hunt elsewhere. Ari is experienced. These awkward interactions are very unlikely to come from scum ari to town datisi, that was something ari should be prepared for. TvT no chance. How is that TvT?
2-3) Because when the coalition fails we will exclusively yeet in the coalition until we hit scum. With me off the list I am off the yeet list and more likely to be town. Hence, I have greater pushing potential and am not a potential mislim until one of them falls. And if one of them falls Day 1 then the other one falls too, obviously.

[Aristeia]

<3 std hope everything is ok

[Save The Dragons]

I'm ok I just need a moment

[Irrelephant11]

NK15 can you do a readslist for me real quick
Like just every name in order, towniest to scummiest?
Surely even if you already know who scum is you also have thoughts on who has done the most pro-town or who has towntold the most?

[Irrelephant11]

Can it just be NK15 who doesn’t want to reveal his scum buddy and [widely townread player]? Scum team is rejoicing if NK15 is town

[Aristeia]

I don't think so because Mala has fewer posts than the mod and she's highly polarized and doesn't really like playing scum role pms

[Malakittens]

THE META IS WRONG

I REALLY FUCKINg hate when it’s img she’s low effort she has to be scum

ITS NOT AI

FUCK MAN

[Malakittens]

Plus like I don’t even know u

[Aristeia]

ok if you're town can you like post stuff? :<

[Malakittens]

No but seriously

Have we played together

And I just don’t realize or remember

[Aristeia]

I don't think we have but I have read some of your games

[Datisi]

sorry friends, not actually feeling mafia tonight. am free basically the whole day tomorrow, will be around then. aight cool cheers.

[skitter30]

2-3) Because when the coalition fails we will exclusively yeet in the coalition until we hit scum. With me off the list I am off the yeet list and more likely to be town. Hence, I have greater pushing potential and am not a potential mislim until one of them falls. And if one of them falls Day 1 then the other one falls too, obviously.

you're saying that if ari is scum with dats
she's keeping herself out and trying to put you in as a potential misflip?

[skitter30]

THE META IS WRONG

I REALLY FUCKINg hate when it’s img she’s low effort she has to be scum

ITS NOT AI

FUCK MAN

hey mala hope everything is ok <3
do you have any thoughts on the game at all?

[skitter30]

have a good night dats!