Micro 1054 || Fuzzy Friends Coalition || Game Over!

[Not Known 15]

2-3) Because when the coalition fails we will exclusively yeet in the coalition until we hit scum. With me off the list I am off the yeet list and more likely to be town. Hence, I have greater pushing potential and am not a potential mislim until one of them falls. And if one of them falls Day 1 then the other one falls too, obviously.

you're saying that if ari is scum with dats
she's keeping herself out and trying to put you in as a potential misflip?

Yes.

[Not Known 15]

NK15 can you do a readslist for me real quick
Like just every name in order, towniest to scummiest?
Surely even if you already know who scum is you also have thoughts on who has done the most pro-town or who has towntold the most?

Obviously no.
A game where my sole big townread was scum just finished... and I generally hunt scum, not town.

The list...

Not Known 15






Skitter30/Menalque/fireisredsir/Save the Dragons/Malakittens



Irrelephant11






Datisi


Aristeia

[Aristeia]

He is correct in that if the coalition failed I'd probably want to flip his slot out of the five.

[Aristeia]

I do find it somewhat funny if Datisi is playing one of his best scumgames but just happens to be paired with a partner that gets joy out of derptunneling his partner for fun and trolling them.

Also it would be somewhat of a tragedy I would also feel quite bad for him <3

[skitter30]

i actually don't hate nk15's response

[Irrelephant11]

I'm angry that NK15 isn't scummier
Because I feel like I can't coalition 22 posts that all give the same singular read
But such play is so audacious??

Though it's also just... not audacious at all if his partner is in the coalition and he wants to stay out

[Irrelephant11]

a partner that gets joy out of derptunneling his partner

how strong is this meta read?

[Aristeia]

I can give you an example

[Irrelephant11]

I really wanted to have time to fully deep dive std and menalque today

[Irrelephant11]

I can give you an example

sure! and then an estimation of how many times you've seen it/any other reason for thinking he would do this often

[Aristeia]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=86932

this is the iso of Peta where he breaks down how he felt NK15 played as scum:

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go

[Aristeia]

Archer
Saber
Shielder,Lancer,Rider,Ruler,Avenger,Foreigner
Caster,Beast
Berserker
Assassin
Alter Ego

VOTE: Saber

Archer
Ruler
Beast,Caster,Berserker
Shielder,Lancer,Rider,Avenger,Assassin
Saber
Foreigner
Alter Ego

VOTE: Servant Berserker

It seems like your entire readslist has flipped, can you explain what changed for each of-
Saber, Ruler, Beast, Caster, me, Assassin, and Foreigner?

A night of sleep and a fresh look at my reads.
Servant Ruler gave great reasons for many people. Ruler is terribly wrong on Ego, and the reasons for the reads on Ego, Rider and Lancer are too weak for me.
With these three, Saber, Foreigner and Alter Ego the rest of my reads indeed flipped. My reason to scumread Berserker was not as good as I thought yesterday. Caster looks more and more like a townie stumbling in the dark. Ruler is conditional on Saber and Foreigner being scum, but I believe that the POE of {Alter Ego, Foreigner, Saber} has three scum. That obviously leaves one scum but I am sure we can find that one eventually.

This was a post that made peta get quite upset because nk15's POE of three was literally all of his scum teammates.

[Irrelephant11]

This gets much funnier if you're his scum partner

[Aristeia]

not really. My scum game is brutal and merciless and not very funny.

[Irrelephant11]

but if you're his partner, you're basically outing how much he's annoying you ITT

[Aristeia]

which is why I wouldn't share this meta if I was his partner?

I'd probably just browbeat him into submission or ignore him.

[the worst]

VOTECOUNT 1.3

Save the Dragons [5]:

Menalque, Save the Dragons, Irrelephant11, skitter30, Datisi
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Datisi [5]:

Datisi, Aristeia, skitter30, Menalque, Irrelephant11
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Irrelephant11 [5]:

skitter30, Save the Dragons, Menalque, Datisi, Aristeia
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fireisredsir [5]:

fireisredsir, skitter30, Not Known 15, Datisi, Menalque
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Not Known 15 [5]:

Menalque, Not Known 15, skitter30, fireisredsir, Irrelephant11
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skitter30 [4]:

Menalque, Save the Dragons, Irrelephant11, skitter30
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Malakittens [3]:

skitter30, Datisi, Aristeia
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Menalque [3]:

Menalque, Irrelephant11, Datisi
-

Not Voting [1]:

Aristeia

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to form a coalition!

The deadline is in (expired on 2022-05-14 22:40:33).

MOD NOTES

- sorry if this is right. let me know if it is wrong and needs correcting.

- i am ALSO not counting votes to eliminate that are made today.

- clicky here for joined mod iso.

[Irrelephant11]

..........................can't tell if you're as serious as you sound,,,,,,,,,,,

I definitely don't think you're his partner, I was only trying to point out how funny it would be, for us all to consider, then laugh and smile about

[Aristeia]

I am a very serious person who rarely makes jokes but when I make jokes it will be quite obvious they are jokes.

[Irrelephant11]

...............................................................................................can'ttellifthat'sajoke

I think I'm in a much more serious playerlist than I thought I was, overall, actually. Like that one time I was really funny and fire got so mad because I didn't immediately answer his question. also now
am I the only one having fun??

[Aristeia]

I usually have fun unless I care too much.

If I care too much I will become extremely unfun.

but I did promise myself I wouldn't do that this game so it's unlikely to happen

[Irrelephant11]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=86932

this is the iso of Peta where he breaks down how he felt NK15 played as scum:

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go

anyway this is interesting. Honestly like 50-70% of my townread on datisi was that you and skitter both townread him (if one/two of you is town you're hopefully right, if you're both scummy mafs, well then by pure maths he's still town). I don't really wanntttt to reconsider my townread on datisi but good to know that I shouldn't assume NK15's potential scum partner is in the nullread pile he made

[Irrelephant11]

was thinking maybe leave out mala/me/fire/std?

I find this interesting. I'm curious for fire to actually pick who he would remove from the coalition, and if it would be me like his previous reads would suggest. Seems risky to bet the game on NK15 being town, though. Like his potential partner could still be.... skitter, or menalque, or datisi, or even maybe std, really. And almost nothing rules him out as scum

[Irrelephant11]

skitter how is aristeia not town?

> regularly self-regulating to avoid flooding the thread/being too loud with uncertain takes
> open to new ideas while still coming into the thread with her own
> not really using popular thought in a way I can see as manipulative, like how you/me/std having similar reads or datisi/fire having similar reads could include scum copying bad reads to amplify them
> offering to stay out of the coalition and the only scummy player she's submitting into the coalition is nk15 which like WOW if their scum plan is "scumread each other hard and then argue about putting the other in the coalition and then immediately lim one and the other doesn't even look that clear"
> I can't really see ari as anyone's partner except like datisi I guess sorta kinda maybe?
> towny in tone

[Irrelephant11]

"scumread each other hard and then argue about putting the other in the coalition and then immediately lim one and the other doesn't even look that clear"

I get this is an oversimplification but my point here was an ari/nk15 team doesn't endgame *together* ever
ari/fire? no, ari just suggested leaving both her and fire out
ari/mala? lol at scum!ari just trying to lose in this case
ari/someone I townread? I guess it's certainly possible, but seems pointless to pursue at this time