Micro 1054 || Fuzzy Friends Coalition || Game Over!

[Irrelephant11]

oh wait jk it has you in it

[Menalque]

It's the only thing able to throw off Ari off balance like that

could you please say in your own words what you mean by Ari being thrown of balance

NK15, I am far nicer and cuddlier than I once was but so help me god if you don’t answer this question and coalition fails I will eliminate you so fast that you don’t have time to say “wait what post was I ignoring”

Thrown off balance means that something unexpected happens and you are temporarily not playing normally because you don't get how to deal with that situation fast enough and/or are distracted.

ah, I should have been clearer perhaps: I am aware of what thrown off balance means, I would like you to state what in Ari's play made you think she was off balanced

[fireisredsir]

fire, if you swap out skitter and Relly then we have a deal

you're gonna have to sell me on why

[fireisredsir]

oh wait jk it has you in it

yes std out is a very key difference there

[Irrelephant11]

was thinking maybe leave out mala/me/fire/std?

I find this interesting. I'm curious for fire to actually pick who he would remove from the coalition, and if it would be me like his previous reads would suggest. Seems risky to bet the game on NK15 being town, though. Like his potential partner could still be.... skitter, or menalque, or datisi, or even maybe std, really. And almost nothing rules him out as scum

from this one? i guess so, yeah. we're not betting the game on it tho, we're just betting not winning the d1 game. and if youre saying he can be partners with skitt/mena/datisi then leaving him out isn't like a lock anyway

i think if ari is scum she's likely scum with someone who is already in, and so there is very little utility to leaving her out

These two posts blew my mind a little bit
Something about the pure logic (well, if this, then that, so might as well ___) in them makes me townread them

[fireisredsir]

fire, if you swap out skitter and Relly then we have a deal

you're gonna have to sell me on why

more on the skitter side than the irrel side i already understand your thoughts there mostly

[Menalque]

for now: I posted earlier on why Relly is town (414) and I stand by that. skitter has done absolutely nothing to be outside of her scum range, so while I do think she's been very towny, I think that makes her less likely to actually be town than anyone else who had been as comparatively towny

[Menalque]

I currently think that the most likely team is StD/NK15

[Menalque]

if more is needed on the skitter point then I can talk more tomorrow, I'll have more time

[Save The Dragons]

why do you think im partnered with nk15

why do you think nk15 is scum

[Irrelephant11]

Fire I have to go make lunch but can you remind me your scumcase on std (can be quotes of your own posts, but also if there’s anything new) and I’ll write a towncase on him and we’ll see who, uh… idk, wins?

Pedit: why std/nk15 over nk15/menalque or nk15/skitter

[Menalque]

why do you think im partnered with nk15

why do you think nk15 is scum

It’s not an associative-based read, you’re both my individual top picks for scum

I’m going to answer the second part after I hear back from NK15 on my most recent question

[Menalque]

Fire I have to go make lunch but can you remind me your scumcase on std (can be quotes of your own posts, but also if there’s anything new) and I’ll write a towncase on him and we’ll see who, uh… idk, wins?

Pedit: why std/nk15 over nk15/menalque or nk15/skitter

Is this... for me but you thought I was fire? Or it’s actually for fire?

[Save The Dragons]

i wish there was a case i could argue against

i feel like fire is like vibes but i think my vibes are townie
i feel like mala is like i can't read you but i don't know why that's the case
i feel like menalque is...actually i dunno :< why are you scumreading me?

but all three can't be scum so i guess i'm doing something wrong and i'm afraid it's affecting the people who read me correctly initially and i guess it's affecting me more than it should

[fireisredsir]

Fire I have to go make lunch but can you remind me your scumcase on std (can be quotes of your own posts, but also if there’s anything new) and I’ll write a towncase on him and we’ll see who, uh… idk, wins?

p much just 565

ik this is likely not to be very convincing to anyone else unless they happen to be picking up the same vibes

i could go through and pull things out and explain possible scum motivations behind them but with 0 flips i don't think thats likely to really get us anywhere. if there's something from him that you think he just absolutely could not have done as scum feel free to point it out and ill take a look and see what i think

[fireisredsir]

if there's something from him that you think he just absolutely could not have done as scum feel free to point it out and ill take a look and see what i think

std if you want to argue your case you are welcome to do this for yourself as well sometimes that is actually convincing for me

[fireisredsir]

ik im the one who is supposed to have the burden of proof in this situation

so i mean only if you want to

[Irrelephant11]

I did indeed intend to ask fire but Menalque feel free to share

[fireisredsir]

i don't really have std and nk as most likely partners so i don't have an answer to that

i did have nk and mena as unlikely and i will try to look for why

[Save The Dragons]

i guess my problem is i don't think i'm doing what i'm being accused of in 565. I don't think i'm "coming in with a "good post"TM whenever i feel like it, i feel like i've tried to take charge and guide town but i'm getting drowned out because people keep putting me as scum and not really explaining why

as scum i do tend to stick to the background and let the town make mistakes but as town i try to have presence. i think my scum game and town game are actually night and day and i think it should be easy to tell. i know, self meta take it with a grain of salt

which makes it hard for me to trust that read because it seems so static and not reassessed based on anything i've posted in response which worries me but maybe if everyone's scum reading i'm doing something wrong but it's hard to believe i'm getting null/scumread by people without scum's influence in the thread specifically gunning to keep me out.

[fireisredsir]

maybe it was just the way in which he is failing to answer mena's question lol

doesn't seem very partner-y, but apparently nk is not great at working together anyway

[Save The Dragons]

fire can you show me you've actually re-assessed your read of me at any point

[Datisi]

maybe it was just the way in which he is failing to answer mena's question lol

doesn't seem very partner-y, but apparently nk is not great at working together anyway

i have a question i want to ask mena but i am 99.5% sure his answer is going to be "i don't want to answer that now, ask me later" so i am making a reminder for myself

[Datisi]

gth solve is fire/mala with fire trying to get in and mala trying (or at least willing) to stay out

im nervous because i feel like i could be wrong about that but i would probably take any coalition without them at this point (probably not nk15 tho)

std, is this still up to date?

[Save The Dragons]

i think only one of fire/mala is scum at this point