Micro 1054 || Fuzzy Friends Coalition || Game Over!

[fireisredsir]

well that makes me like it even more

[Datisi]

ok so i read through mena's iso while i was eating dinner and i still think he's town and god help me idk how to explain it

145 and 146 are very reminiscent of the ways mena used to joke with me and prob others in some of our older games. i started off this game thinking he's scum because he was feeling flat and 142 felt like he was dying inside and yeah. idk if scum!him ever got to being able to joke with me in a way that doesn't make Something feel off. https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=84455 the first posts of this page are like an example of what i mean ig

also, in retrospect, 150 is *weird* to make if he's scum because like, it's decently possible he would have to play hard at some point, and he would have an ample opportunity to be townread because me and skitt and whoever else would go "wow mena is playing differently than he did in that other game where i last saw him as scum" and instead he calls attention to it why. idk.

ok i actually went to reread his iso from his last scumgame and https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go

i feel like it's different than here. first order of business is his posts towards me. it's like. THIS is the extend of joking around he does with me:

Spoiler:

Also bc you’re so obvscum I felt it didn’t need saying really

this game is a circus

VOTE: mena

and that's throughout the whole game. maybe a month or so he was subbed in. like his vibes were way off.

also his "i don't wanna heal skitt/ari" business and not voting to form a coalition until he's not ready for one reminds me of him like. wanting the best for the gamestate and have things develop organically. hold on i remember a game where he said that (he was in a hydra with skitt but this was him posting):

Spoiler:

Subject: Open 806: JK9++ (Game Over!)

infinity/scipio/datisi/pp/bridgeburners can be the townblock for today (ourselves included)

-seCret

STOP

-QB

Subject: Open 806: JK9++ (Game Over!)

i'd still like to know what this was/is about.

I thought it was fairly well known that I am against explicit discussion of townblocs/forming townblocs in almost a direct inverse proportion to how much I like actually having them

I guess apparently not so let me be clear: I am against explicit discussion of townblocs/forming townblocs in direct inverse proportion to how much I like having townblocs

-QB

like town!mena wants to solve the game and he wants a solveable game. there's like, you can feel the cogs turning in his head when he's making posts like these because he's thinking of the future and what's gonna make the game readable. compare that to the scum iso i posted, there is nothing that makes him see the bigger picture. it's just empty air going from post to post (edited to add later on: 651 also fits that picture. scum!mena would benefit from there being paranoia about the coalition bc there's a chance town is derpy enough to completely fail to make one and because it gives him easier avenues to attack later on and and i also remember him saying spewing chaos is sometimes good as scum in micro 892 when we were scumbuddies and like idk. 651 feels townie in the same vein the others here do)

and here it's like, his arguing about skitt/ari not only provides the game being more sortable to him (or like, at least he believes it will be more sortable to him) but there's also the fact that he probably won't look great off of it to anyone other than maybe me and skitter and i'm not sure if that's worth the effort

maybe he's being extremely bigbrain by having me townread him for it and defend him but again, looking at that prior scum!iso i don't feel it chief

also compare the towncase he did in 414 to a towncase he did in the scumgame: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13206702
it just feels like in the first example he's using like actual progressions to show where someone is town while in the other it's like... "well you didn't attack me and also you're attacking this loud person so you're town lol"

also if we're comparing postcounts there he posted ~60 times in 20 days while here it's been ~80 in 6 - i know postcount isn't much and that scum!mena can sometimes spam but i feel like it's A Point

also the thing on ari/fire around 674 - nowhere in his scum iso do i see any "if x then y" posts even remotely similar to this which even more makes me think that that's like, and actual thought he has

[Datisi]

i'm sorry if that post is a mess, i'm really tired and i got interrupted multiple times while writing it and anfnoerifwek

like there is A Chance i am fucking it up here by just going off of mena's latest scumgame which was not quite... the pinnacle of his career, but i also feel like there's not much point going by his older scumgames when it's really apparent he's not tryharding to the same level he was before and it's a question mark if he's even capable of it currently

but i feel like either he's accidentally hit the things he somehow knew i used to viberead him on or he's having an extremely good performance by planning all of that and just idk i think he's town.

[fireisredsir]

HURT: all
HEAL: datisi
HEAL: menalque
HEAL: skitter
HEAL: irrelephant
HEAL: ari

[fireisredsir]

would be funny if after all this it is just nk/mala

[skitter30]

Thanks dats, that was v helpful
You put to words a lot of what i was vibing

I can do the mena version if necessary too

[Aristeia]

I am officially jealous that Mena gets a post like that :<

[Aristeia]

HURT: all
HEAL: datisi
HEAL: menalque
HEAL: skitter
HEAL: irrelephant
HEAL: ari

this is E-1 on the coalition

[Save The Dragons]

i can't do it sorry

[fireisredsir]

whats the sticking point for you

[Save The Dragons]

me not being in it

[Not Known 15]

HURT: all
HEAL: datisi
HEAL: menalque
HEAL: skitter
HEAL: irrelephant
HEAL: aristeia

[fireisredsir]

hm

[Aristeia]

fen is it over?

[Save The Dragons]

how would i know

[Aristeia]

ugh

[Aristeia]

theres 5 people on this coalition

and 2 people off coalition for it

so if ur town and no scum are throwing

then um you would know?

[Irrelephant11]

Intent to hammer soonish, can’t really talk much but trying to keep up

[Aristeia]

its already hammered

[Irrelephant11]

would be funny if after all this it is just nk/mala

[Irrelephant11]

Wait oh
Lol

[Irrelephant11]

its already hammered

RIP me trying to hammer. I signed up for a short game so please god don’t let this have another game phase

[Aristeia]

like unless the scum team is exactly std/mala i dont see how this passes without scum voting for an all town coalition which would be um

a thing

[Save The Dragons]

it's not over

[Aristeia]

i dunno maybe scum!nk15 is conceding by hammering an all town coalition i can dream right