ik you don't like secondhand meta but it was a pain to go through and find his scumgames so here was one that did have a good amount of effort to it if you want to lookIn post 1247, Datisi wrote:well that's just stellar. i should probably reassess my read on him while keeping in mind that i can't write things off as townie because "scum probably doesn't effort this much" or for similar reasons like that
Ok maybe this is fair. I am still very worried abt u/dats together thoIn post 1190, Aristeia wrote:the idea that scum me uses town!dats as the fall guy and sacrificial pawn is kind of gross.
I would not do that - I am not even sure if I could think of such a move.
i picture people as looking like their avatarsIn post 1258, Aristeia wrote:i just woke up from my nap
i had a dream that me/skitter/dats were drinking at a bar
I snoozing on Datisi's shoulder because I had a bit too much to drink and his shoulder smelled nice
Skitter was fighting with the waiter because she had too much to drink and he wanted her to drink this giant pitcher of water and she was not having any of that.
Not terribly useful but just something cute I wanted to share. <3
hmm ok ty idk how much i really buy that since it was defusing an argument between you and someone else which i feel like is a substantially different scenario than creating town cohesion but i will consider thisIn post 1257, Irrelephant11 wrote:https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=89344
I read that thread and decided in my next town game I would try some new stuff to defuse t/t arguments and create town cohesion. You’re scumreading my new town trick. I don’t think I’ve ever done such a graceful defuse thing as scum. Guess this is wifom coming from me but at least I can point to the reason I did that
no that would've been quite weird to have a tiger drinking beerIn post 1263, fireisredsir wrote:i picture people as looking like their avatarsIn post 1258, Aristeia wrote:i just woke up from my nap
i had a dream that me/skitter/dats were drinking at a bar
I snoozing on Datisi's shoulder because I had a bit too much to drink and his shoulder smelled nice
Skitter was fighting with the waiter because she had too much to drink and he wanted her to drink this giant pitcher of water and she was not having any of that.
Not terribly useful but just something cute I wanted to share. <3
was skitter a tiger
I'm having trouble quoting th exact bit i want, sorryIn post 1195, Aristeia wrote:There is only one difference between Datisi's Coalition and the Coalition you wanted. [You had STD instead of Me in your final vote thing]
That involved me being in the coalition. I know for a fact that I am town and that if your coalition would pass, then Datisi's coalition would also pass so the game would end either way.
What I can't accept is letting you kill Datisi if your coalition fails because it's your coalition in the first place.[You had made it very clear he was the first person you'd go to flip upon coalition failure] If you really want to flip Dats card, I need the coalition to be made by him; I can't accept you killing him with your preferred coalition passing I would fight you tooth and nail over that and this thread would become extremely unpleasant.
That's why I ended up voting for the coalition with me instead of STD. I know for a fact your coalition would also have failed. If you had wanted a coalition that was significantly different where this clause doesn't come into play I would've been fine with it. I think I have been extremely transparent in my willingness to support you throughout this game and to push your preferred coalition through multiple times when both myself and Datisi were off of it which makes very little sense if your coalition was already compromised to begin with. It feels incredibly strange to me that you think Fire made a good point that if I am scum, then I have to be partnered with someone already on your coalition but you've decided that Dats/Ari are the place that you want to start with.
Ok this is fair, and it probably wasnt right for me to think this, so i apologizeIn post 1196, Aristeia wrote:I doubt I would ever think of trying to misflip him. Not only would I feel incredibly bad about it - but like it's just not something that's easy or strategically sound to do? There are many people I would find easier to misflip in this PL, I don't think there's actually a player more difficult to misflip than him.
The thought of trying to put him into the coalition to set him up as a misflip after townreading him is just not something I would do or even consider doing. It's just so bizarre that the thought would never even cross my mind - my scum game for all you rave about it is actually fairly simple - I mostly try to flip the people who are easy to flip. I don't really try to jump over a 50 foot fence when there is a nice open door somewhere else.
this is what you said to Datisi.In post 1038, skitter30 wrote:Ok if std being in it isnt viable i can probably compromise on that but that is not my ideal, i really would like std in it
And honestly to be perfectly frank if it failed i would probably flip you first
Probablh something like dats -> mena -> ari -> irrel
Maybe swap mena/ari idk
Why ari over dats ?
Ok so just so i understand: you were ok with dats being in it and me wanting to flip him if that was the coalition dats was proposing?In post 1268, Aristeia wrote:this is what you said to Datisi.In post 1038, skitter30 wrote:Ok if std being in it isnt viable i can probably compromise on that but that is not my ideal, i really would like std in it
And honestly to be perfectly frank if it failed i would probably flip you first
Probablh something like dats -> mena -> ari -> irrel
Maybe swap mena/ari idk
So in my mind you wanted your coalition [Skitter/Irrel/Mena/Dats/STD] but you would flip Datsif it failed. I can't accept you trying to flip Dats foryour coalition failing
the only thing I did was put myself in for STD because I knew it was functionally the same thing asyour coalitionexcept it would pass if STD was mafia and it also is the coalition Datisi wanted.
These are kinda like two different things in my mind, but i will try to explainIn post 1200, Datisi wrote:In post 1156, skitter30 wrote:Just wanna say that this is lowkey frustrating given that that was my like 3rd option and i didnt want ari/dats in it at all, and if we had to have themi wanted std instead of menaskitt, how do these two posts fit together?
I think i answered but lmk if u wanf something elseIn post 1203, Datisi wrote:also skitt when you're back i do want a kind of an elaboration on 1189 - how do you see the gamestate at the moment of the coalition forming that you think it's viable for ari to do this? like i said in 1201 why i don't really think it's realistic for ari to try to do that but i want to hear your pov i guess