Micro 1054 || Fuzzy Friends Coalition || Game Over!

[Datisi]

i forgot about that happening

why did prism pick that avi, i keep thinking i'm talking to petapan

I can understand how you see why my trajectory on ari was sus
...
and i'm not really sure it makes sense for u as town to scumread me here

how do these two sentences go together? do you think i should be townreading you here?

[skitter30]

I can understand it, but not sure its a push coming from town

[skitter30]

Oh and i missed the latter question: i think that you should recognize that i dont start the day pushing ari today as scum
A diabolical plan to keep ari right on the edge of my reads so i can push her into the coalition so i can try to flip her first is just ... not how i would be approaching this as scum, for many reasons

[Datisi]

oh, i just remembered i have a script for changing user avatars

anyway, what are the many reasons that aren't "ari is difficult to misflip", because i feel like that is true for all of the people in the coalition (and pretty much everyone in the game except nk/mala)

[Datisi]

i guess my other question would be "why is this not a push coming from town", but the question i actually want to ask is "what have you done to sort me" because i feel like "i townread you the least" is not really a Good Reason to want to flip me first considering you suspecting me like every single game we play

[Aristeia]

Oh and i missed the latter question: i think that you should recognize that i dont start the day pushing ari today as scum
A diabolical plan to keep ari right on the edge of my reads so i can push her into the coalition so i can try to flip her first is just ... not how i would be approaching this as scum, for many reasons

ok how would you be approaching this as scum?

[skitter30]

I mean i would make a note that i'm not trying to flip u rn @dats, and that i didnt vote you or anything. I'm suspicious of you but i havent actually done anything to really get you voted out, as I'm not at the point where i'm convined you're the scum rn; i'm still trying to sort this mess out. But i am a little Sus of this push on me, as i dont really understand how/why you think i'd have taken this tactic as scum
So if you can explain why you think i'd be starting off with ari when she's fairly widely townread ans unlikely to get voted out with significant effort esp given i dont really have any Good Reasons to push her or any sort of decent trajectory leading up to that ... i think that would help me understand *your* approach to the day


@ari: i think as scum, with this coalition, i probably would be going after mena (and i dont think i would have townread him as strongly earlier either), or would be actually hard-pushing dats rn like i said i would do yesterday vs this mess of whatever i'm doing rn. I think i would have just picked something and stuck with it

[Aristeia]

i'd be starting off with ari when she's fairly widely townread ans unlikely to get voted out with significant effort

I feel like we just have different views of how easy it would be to push me?

you're vote #1 and still kind of influential

mala/nk15 both have me at the very bottom of their readlists yesterday so they can be 2/3.

let's say you have a partner who is not mala/nk15 - that would be #4/5? <so realistically you just need like one more vote, which could come from someone readflipping on me or like someone who hasn't really committed to anything?>

You're realistically fairly close? Like I don't think it's that difficult to push me in this PL ?

[Aristeia]

@ari: i think as scum, with this coalition, i probably would be going after mena (and i dont think i would have townread him as strongly earlier either), or would be actually hard-pushing dats rn like i said i would do yesterday vs this mess of whatever i'm doing rn. I think i would have just picked something and stuck with it

not sure I think it makes sense for scum!you to try to mislim town!mena

he is a bit more polarized than either me or dats and it's easier for him to towntell also I do kind of think he would expect you to read him correctly and put up more of a fight? [Like I can sort of see you misreading me off paranoia[etc] while I don't think he would be as accomodating?]

[skitter30]

You know that i'm kinda scared of you as scum >.> like i've fearkilled u at least once in recent memory
Also idk who you think the fourth/fifth would be? Maybe mena who was lowkey scumreading you ? Even tho he ended the day with you in his coalition? I dont remember what fire's read on you is but i think he's also townreading you, no? And i think std's townreading you too
Over the vociferous complaints of dats and irrel, who both have a lot of Voice here and could very well dissuade people
And a wagon with a base of nk15/mala would just look a little hmmmm? no?
And i dont like arguing with town-you when i'm scum anyways

I dont think this would be easy for me at all and i dont think i would take this approach

Pedit i mean in this coalition i'd have to go after *something* i wouldnt want to and i think that would be easier for me to meanueuver and win and get support for

Also it might be easier for mena to towntell truly but its easier for u to get townreads i think, which is a difference that matters in this convo

[skitter30]

Office day so i'll be back later

[skitter30]

Like with mena i think i win that argument easier, and can see reasonable paths fo 5 votes
I dont think either with you
I'd wait to flip you later when irrel/dats probably have to start flipping on you too

[Irrelephant11]

Occam’s razor: low-poster is scum.

so the scumteam is nk/mala and ydrasse is trolling us?

i'm like, i will consider scum!mena. but i need a bit more to actually convince me he's viable to be scum considering i feel like he has hit multiple towntells while he's been here...

Obviously not
but I do think the most likely team is [lowest poster in the coalition] + [lowest poster outside the coalition] AKA mena/nk15

I think the strongest point in town!std’s and scum!mena’s favor(s) is the competing wagons. The majority wagon flipped red, and I do currently think that’s a lot of scum points towards the 3 who were both in the coalition and voting for it. But then I think datisi and aristeia are town. So: Menalque. This is not my entire case, it’s just a major point nobody has brought up, full case will come tomorrow (or you know, read StD’s posts/interact with him like he might be seeing something you’re not, instead of waiting for me). @skitter and @datisi, you’ve both acknowledged at least one weird thing about menalque’s ISO recently iirc. Nobody is saying you have to lim him, just to give him more scrutiny than “until someone PROVES BEYOND A SHADOW OF A DOUBT I WILL NEVER VOTE THERE”

Oh also the only people pushing menalque this game day are
A. outside the coalition
B. Me (and I know I’m not scum)
Which makes the idea that he’s low-hanging fruit not ring true for me. YMMV

Tbh skitter suggesting menalque is the one place she’d basically never vote is the scummiest thing she’s done this game. I get a townread on menalque but also… is it TMI? Partners, which is why she wanted StD in instead? This is why skitter is 5% less town than datisi/aristeia. That said I don’t actually think skitter is scum at all, really.


This is what datisi/aristeia/skitter feel like imo.

[Irrelephant11]

btw a datisi/aristeia scumteam has written enough words that I concede to them. I’ll probably never vote for either on the basis that they’re the team, and my only response to paranoia of that team is to shove it down because I don’t feel like entertaining it. Catching them would involve too much work for something so unlikely.

[Irrelephant11]

I was ready day 1 to bet the game on me/skitter/datisi/aristeia/std being town and I still am

[Not Known 15]

I was ready day 1 to bet the game on me/skitter/datisi/aristeia/std being town and I still am

What will you do if Menalque flips town?

[Irrelephant11]

Lose motivation, hope I get NK’d, maybe try to re-evaluate if I’m still here d3

[Irrelephant11]

I was ready day 1 to bet the game on me/skitter/datisi/aristeia/std being town and I still am

What will you do if Menalque flips town?

What will you do if he flips red

[Menalque]

Hi I’ll be around soon, and by soon I mean later tonight or tomorrow

[Save The Dragons]

STD is semi-conftown and being entirely ignored!

i felt this in my soul because i feel like i took effort to be less vibey and more analytically for the gamestate and i got mostly shot down and it made me feel small ngl so i appreciate you seeing me i know i'm being a little too emotional and need to step back but i did appreciate this so thank you

the fact you have the same scum read as i still means you're either pocketing me hard for no reason because i have no influence in this gamestate or we're kindred town and we may be onto something here so i'm thinking it's the latter

[Malakittens]

Mmmmmm

[Malakittens]

Lose motivation, hope I get NK’d, maybe try to re-evaluate if I’m still here d3

Feels

[Aristeia]

STD is semi-conftown and being entirely ignored!

i felt this in my soul because i feel like i took effort to be less vibey and more analytically for the gamestate and i got mostly shot down and it made me feel small ngl so i appreciate you seeing me i know i'm being a little too emotional and need to step back but i did appreciate this so thank you

the fact you have the same scum read as i still means you're either pocketing me hard for no reason because i have no influence in this gamestate or we're kindred town and we may be onto something here so i'm thinking it's the latter

I am sorry if I ever made you feel small - it was not my intent to do so :<

[Irrelephant11]

STD is semi-conftown and being entirely ignored!

i felt this in my soul because i feel like i took effort to be less vibey and more analytically for the gamestate and i got mostly shot down and it made me feel small ngl so i appreciate you seeing me i know i'm being a little too emotional and need to step back but i did appreciate this so thank you

the fact you have the same scum read as i still means you're either pocketing me hard for no reason because i have no influence in this gamestate or we're kindred town and we may be onto something here so i'm thinking it's the latter

<3
Am town btw

[skitter30]

@skitter and @datisi, you’ve both acknowledged at least one weird thing about menalque’s ISO recently iirc. Nobody is saying you have to lim him, just to give him more scrutiny than “until someone PROVES BEYOND A SHADOW OF A DOUBT I WILL NEVER VOTE THERE”

I mean sure if someone has a compelling reason to think he's scum i'll look at it, but i havent seen anything compelling yet