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Post Post #2325 (ISO) » Fri May 20, 2022 10:05 am

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In post 2323, Menalque wrote:Datisi, tell me that this is not incredibly reminiscent of the most recent case where I was right on ari being scum?
you were wrong for 7 day phases before you finally stumbled into the right answer by POE because everyone else is a divergent player who is very easy to read shut the fuck up about KTANE
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Post Post #2326 (ISO) » Fri May 20, 2022 10:05 am

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In post 2323, Menalque wrote:Datisi, tell me that this is not incredibly reminiscent of the most recent case where I was right on ari being scum?
not really imo
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Post Post #2327 (ISO) » Fri May 20, 2022 10:05 am

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In post 2323, Menalque wrote:Datisi, tell me that this is not incredibly reminiscent of the most recent case where I was right on ari being scum?
you will be disappointed to know that i was not exactly reading closely enough
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Post Post #2328 (ISO) » Fri May 20, 2022 10:06 am

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In post 2324, Aristeia wrote:I can simply survive by not provoking you at all.

I do not need to fake paranoia of you at EOD.

It is literally contrary to my win condition.
You evidently think you can get me killed either way and are quite possibly right! Which in either case invalidates the argument you’re trying to make in light of the aforementioned benefits to you of maintaining a t/t between dats/bh and avoiding a 5p elo where skitter and I are both in it with you
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Post Post #2329 (ISO) » Fri May 20, 2022 10:07 am

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In post 2328, Menalque wrote:
In post 2324, Aristeia wrote:I can simply survive by not provoking you at all.

I do not need to fake paranoia of you at EOD.

It is literally contrary to my win condition.
You evidently think you can get me killed either way and are quite possibly right! Which in either case invalidates the argument you’re trying to make in light of the aforementioned benefits to you of maintaining a t/t between dats/bh and avoiding a 5p elo where skitter and I are both in it with you
you said you are fine being flipped Bop style tomm after bloodhail flips town so why would i simply not just take you up on that offer
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Post Post #2330 (ISO) » Fri May 20, 2022 10:07 am

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In post 2325, Aristeia wrote:
In post 2323, Menalque wrote:Datisi, tell me that this is not incredibly reminiscent of the most recent case where I was right on ari being scum?
you were wrong for 7 day phases before you finally stumbled into the right answer by POE because everyone else is a divergent player who is very easy to read shut the fuck up about KTANE
I was demonstrably correct for good reasons on you, and demonstrably had very strong reads into N1 even if I went wrong afterwards
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Post Post #2331 (ISO) » Fri May 20, 2022 10:08 am

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In post 2330, Menalque wrote:
In post 2325, Aristeia wrote:
In post 2323, Menalque wrote:Datisi, tell me that this is not incredibly reminiscent of the most recent case where I was right on ari being scum?
you were wrong for 7 day phases before you finally stumbled into the right answer by POE because everyone else is a divergent player who is very easy to read shut the fuck up about KTANE
I was demonstrably correct for good reasons on you, and demonstrably had very strong reads into N1 even if I went wrong afterwards
keep telling me about how good you are i'm sure its very convincing for everyone
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Post Post #2332 (ISO) » Fri May 20, 2022 10:09 am

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Keep telling everybody how bad I am, I’m sure that’s very convincing to everyone
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Post Post #2333 (ISO) » Fri May 20, 2022 10:10 am

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none of this is even game relevant anymore, stop
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Post Post #2334 (ISO) » Fri May 20, 2022 10:12 am

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It’s game relevant because the last time I caught ari as scum her response was to rapidly shift into attacking my general abilities as a player and launching personal attacks

I think this is a behaviour which comes from her as scum and not as town because she feels that it’s acceptable to behave like this when it’s serving her wincon, and therefore is strongly scum indicative for her
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Post Post #2335 (ISO) » Fri May 20, 2022 10:12 am

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if you are town here mena

that means two things:

1) you think I'm a good player because you think town!me can't reasonably suspect you therefore it's scum!me trying to mislim you.

2) I think you're a bad player who rage omgusses anyone who dares suspect him as both alignments because I actually think you're bad enough to suspect me.
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Post Post #2336 (ISO) » Fri May 20, 2022 10:13 am

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behave like what exactly?

you're the one being openly hostile towards me all game and flying directly into rage omgus mode as soon as I express suspicion of you.

am I really the one behaving unreasonably here?

the person you "bopped" as scum just decided he'd rather self vote and end the day rather than listen to any more of your fucking bullshit
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Post Post #2337 (ISO) » Fri May 20, 2022 10:14 am

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In post 2322, bloodhail wrote:VOTE: bloodhail

i do not want to have to dangle by a thread for multiple day phases because people can't make up their mind on my alignment


if you pivot off me to kill town that i am townreading then pendulum swing back onto me that is just an outright throw

this is the only day i will do this. if you want to resolve this slot's alignment, do it NOW.
i don't really want to vote you though (either today or tomorrow most likely, if we flip mena and he's town i would prob go to datisi) but i think mena is more likely scum than datisi rn so

like ik the prospect of not resolving this today is not pleasant for you but fmpov if you are wrongtown (which is possible) then you and datisi just get flipped and we are in a shit spot

but idk w/e we should prob just end day for sanity's sake it's just hard for me
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Post Post #2338 (ISO) » Fri May 20, 2022 10:14 am

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I would be more inclined to believe any of what you’re saying if it hadn’t all flowed out of my lack of being in game today and my 4 posts, and how weak that is for a player who is typically as good as you to think I’m scum for
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Post Post #2339 (ISO) » Fri May 20, 2022 10:15 am

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look BH

I am not really interested in talking to mena anymore this game

he has crossed my line of "giving a shit"

if you want me to treat him as IC, tell me and I will do that for you.

I won't even care if we lose to scum!him I promise I won't hold it against you.

Let's just get this game over with I have nothing to say to him that will be productive.
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Post Post #2340 (ISO) » Fri May 20, 2022 10:16 am

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In post 2338, Menalque wrote:I would be more inclined to believe any of what you’re saying if it hadn’t all flowed out of my lack of being in game today and my 4 posts, and how weak that is for a player who is typically as good as you to think I’m scum for
i had exactly the same line of thought as she did

i mean maybe im not good enough for that to mean i have to be scum but i feel like that counts for something
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Post Post #2341 (ISO) » Fri May 20, 2022 10:16 am

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mena i am not going to respond to any more of your posts for the rest of this game

you can push me i dont give a fuck
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Post Post #2342 (ISO) » Fri May 20, 2022 10:16 am

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In post 2336, Aristeia wrote:behave like what exactly?

you're the one being openly hostile towards me all game and flying directly into rage omgus mode as soon as I express suspicion of you.

am I really the one behaving unreasonably here?

the person you "bopped" as scum just decided he'd rather self vote and end the day rather than listen to any more of your fucking bullshit
I’ve been mildly hostile towards you and apologised. There are reasons for that and they are directly related to how you have behaved towards me, unprompted or to try and gain in-game advantage in recent games

I am very clearly not in “rage OMGUS mode” and I think that’s evident for anyone reading my posts — the things you’re saying are clearly much angrier and intended to be hurtful than anything I’ve said to you all game

That’s also not what bh said and they’ve been addressing both of us
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Post Post #2343 (ISO) » Fri May 20, 2022 10:16 am

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In post 2334, Menalque wrote:It’s game relevant because the last time I caught ari as scum her response was to rapidly shift into attacking my general abilities as a player and launching personal attacks

I think this is a behaviour which comes from her as scum and not as town because she feels that it’s acceptable to behave like this when it’s serving her wincon, and therefore is strongly scum indicative for her
i dont think that is an exclusively scum behavior for ari, and in fact i know it isn't
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Post Post #2344 (ISO) » Fri May 20, 2022 10:17 am

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In post 2341, Aristeia wrote:mena i am not going to respond to any more of your posts for the rest of this game

you can push me i dont give a fuck
That’s fine by me and I hope you keep to it because there’s nowhere else I’m going atp!
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Post Post #2345 (ISO) » Fri May 20, 2022 10:18 am

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In post 2343, bloodhail wrote:
In post 2334, Menalque wrote:It’s game relevant because the last time I caught ari as scum her response was to rapidly shift into attacking my general abilities as a player and launching personal attacks

I think this is a behaviour which comes from her as scum and not as town because she feels that it’s acceptable to behave like this when it’s serving her wincon, and therefore is strongly scum indicative for her
i dont think that is an exclusively scum behavior for ari, and in fact i know it isn't
Admittedly my memory may be bad but I cannot recall ari ever acting like this as town, at the very least towards me because I had, prior to my return to the site, thought we had a decent relationship
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Post Post #2346 (ISO) » Fri May 20, 2022 10:19 am

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Anyway, this has massively delayed my baking plans and as it’s now cool enough to do so, I’m going to make a start on that

Not moving my vote, what happens can happen
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Post Post #2347 (ISO) » Fri May 20, 2022 10:19 am

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In post 2339, Aristeia wrote:look BH

I am not really interested in talking to mena anymore this game

he has crossed my line of "giving a shit"

if you want me to treat him as IC, tell me and I will do that for you.

I won't even care if we lose to scum!him I promise I won't hold it against you.

Let's just get this game over with I have nothing to say to him that will be productive.
im sorry i get that this is tilting but i dont see it as scum and it sucks having it happen


idfk what to do about this exactly
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Post Post #2348 (ISO) » Fri May 20, 2022 10:21 am

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In post 2347, bloodhail wrote:
In post 2339, Aristeia wrote:look BH

I am not really interested in talking to mena anymore this game

he has crossed my line of "giving a shit"

if you want me to treat him as IC, tell me and I will do that for you.

I won't even care if we lose to scum!him I promise I won't hold it against you.

Let's just get this game over with I have nothing to say to him that will be productive.
im sorry i get that this is tilting but i dont see it as scum and it sucks having it happen


idfk what to do about this exactly

I am sorry to pass the buck to you but I just can't deal with him being like this.
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Post Post #2349 (ISO) » Fri May 20, 2022 10:22 am

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In post 2337, fireisredsir wrote:
In post 2322, bloodhail wrote:VOTE: bloodhail

i do not want to have to dangle by a thread for multiple day phases because people can't make up their mind on my alignment


if you pivot off me to kill town that i am townreading then pendulum swing back onto me that is just an outright throw

this is the only day i will do this. if you want to resolve this slot's alignment, do it NOW.
i don't really want to vote you though (either today or tomorrow most likely, if we flip mena and he's town i would prob go to datisi) but i think mena is more likely scum than datisi rn so

like ik the prospect of not resolving this today is not pleasant for you but fmpov if you are wrongtown (which is possible) then you and datisi just get flipped and we are in a shit spot

but idk w/e we should prob just end day for sanity's sake it's just hard for me
by the same token it's equally devastating for me if people pivot off me and i'm right given i will find myself likely to be fighting the same battle

so it goes both ways

i just want commitment on me rather than people waffling and shelving me for later

if you want to go on record saying you don't think it's me, then, cool
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