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[bloodhail]

I mean i'm opening the door for said miracle if you'd like to explain ur pov some more
Werent u townreading them at the time of the initial flirting?

No, not because of the flirting.

IDK. I was liking ari's initial posts because she felt like she was trying to move the game along and as for Datisi. I may have just gotten the warm and fuzzy feeling in his inital i'm going to townping her and I like how he didn't care to give his POV.

now I'm just paranoid of them so

Can u point to something specific ur paranoid over?

I believe I answered this already. I have a tendancy to get pocketed quite easily. once i get townread and i have known/comfortable with the player i kinda just place blinders on and don't think the slot can be scum. it just burned me in two games recently, one which i was able to get out of the pocket and the other which i didnt

i'm just scared if one of dat/ari is scum the other is pocketed and they are going to use each other to manipulate

idk if this is partnery though!

[bloodhail]

def thought bloodhail was dying so kinda interesting that he didn't ig

have a dumb theory about faker dying that i will not share

[Aristeia]

def thought bloodhail was dying so kinda interesting that he didn't ig

have a dumb theory about faker dying that i will not share

me too :#

[Aristeia]

I think you know what it is

but it's too stupid to type out and I'd be embarrassed if I did >(-_-)<

[Save The Dragons]

i think the kill is weird and i too have a dumb theory about it but it's probably just there to throw us off

i dunno i think gth it's just roden at this point? but i dunno what to think anymore i just townread everyone else more

[fireisredsir]

you townread nk?

[Save The Dragons]

more than roden. i dunno maybe it is just ari/datisi and nk15 is a god i really don't know what to think

[fireisredsir]

im happy with either roden or nk being the lim

i scumread nk more cause i think he is like extremely in his scum meta for multiple reasons but i also don't have a ton of faith in my own reads this game

would really really need to be convinced on skitter/ari, dont see them as likely partners, and i think bloodhail/std are town too

[Aristeia]

I do find it somewhat funny if Datisi is playing one of his best scumgames but just happens to be paired with a partner that gets joy out of derptunneling his partner for fun and trolling them.

Also it would be somewhat of a tragedy I would also feel quite bad for him <3

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=86932

this is the iso of Peta where he breaks down how he felt NK15 played as scum:

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go

i'm aware of that game. that's why i said that nk15's play is very within his scum meta (which he agreed on lol). if i opened my role pm and i saw "ur scum w nk15", the first thing i'd do is go into the scum pt and lay out a plan on what exactly is he going to post because uh yeah. and if i saw him pulling that same shit again, i'd just start prodging and waiting for town to form a winning coalition so i can get out. anyway.

i was gonna write another paragraph about nk15's play here and why it doesn't make sense from town but 859 sums it up well.

was this what you were looking for skitter?

[fireisredsir]

Myself and Ari will probably have to be limmed after this. This leaves us with one more lim. Who?

this post is just weird from someone who had ari/datisi as their scumteam

like why would he care about another lim

[skitter30]

no, i'll see if i can find it later

[fireisredsir]

Tbh you likely would've died if Mena hadn't replaced out since he was tunneled on town slots.

what slots are you referring to here

[bloodhail]

searched datisi's iso for mentions of fire, nothing really conclusive

reading fire on datisi...dunno. he seemed to be townreading him and defending him really early which could just be Wrong, i guess. but nothing in the interactions with datisi i'm seeing are clearing, exactly

[bloodhail]

ughhh

i was kinda getting paranoid of datisi and so i went to go reread his scum games to remind myself what that looks like and how ive thought he was town when he's scum before

and came away from it thinking that it doesn't really feel similar to this at all, actually

so now idk what to make of that

making the sucking air through my teeth noise

[fireisredsir]

it didn't feel similar ):

[bloodhail]

@Datisi:

Where's your head at? VCs aren't telling me anything about what you're thinking, you stuck to one coalition choice Day 1 and currently aren't voting anyone.

I think Mena is town.

why?

After reading Mena's ISO and getting a feeling for the game state, I don't think Mena vs Elephant is SvS. Mena switching from "kill STD" to "kill Rella -> Ari" after acknowledging he's the most likely elim today feels like a spew that would be harmful to his scum partner since I don't think it would be either of them in that scenario, which makes me think it's a genuine final reads list from a dying townie. I think their frustration with this Day phase is also genuine. Going back further, though I don't think STD is scum, I do think Mena's case on him came from a solvey mindset.

@Datisi:

Where's your head at? VCs aren't telling me anything about what you're thinking, you stuck to one coalition choice Day 1 and currently aren't voting anyone.

i have an iso >.> but basically, thinking mena is town for [meta reasons that seem to not vibe with anyone other than skitter], ari is town for the way she played d1. have been thinking skitter is most likely scum in the coalition for a while (but i've kinda liked her more recent posting i guess??? jury's still out), and getting increasingly nervous about irrel

outside the coalition, thinking fire is town but fuck if i know about the other three -- std is more likely to be town than the other two i guess but i am v low confidence on all of those

I actually did read your ISO, I just wanted an updated take since EoD is approaching and you've been fence sitting.

NK15 feels obvtown to me, he's too confident and tunneled to be scum, and everyone here is competent enough to coach him to not flail with his reads/solves going into Day 2. Fire is null to me only because they didn't seem to have the spotlight at all so far. I agree with STD likely being town, but disagree with your Skitter scum read, consensus nominations tend to be town and nothing in her ISO sticks out as scummy to me.

I've noticed while skimming that a lot of people think there's at least one scum between you and Ari, and while I agree, I think it's odd that no one really seemed to push you two. It's too late in the day to do it now, but you two should've been leading wagons imo, that would've given everyone plenty of info seeing who would push who and if your wagons would naturally dissipate. If you were both town, I believe scum would see you two as the optimal push on Day 2, and if I'm right on NK15 being town then scum likely would've backed him when he scum cased the two of you. I just don't see how there could be zero momentum towards wagoning either of you if you're both town and part of the coalition.

I think I'm going to end up voting Elephant today, I just want to finish going through his ISO first. If I end up town reading him though then idk.

but also, this sequence, prior to me showing up, is kind of hrmery

[Aristeia]

mb fire didnt shoot you cuz u said he was townie

[Roden]

Tbh you likely would've died if Mena hadn't replaced out since he was tunneled on town slots.

what slots are you referring to here

The slots he was tunneled on.

We had this conversation yesterday.

[Roden]

i think the kill is weird and i too have a dumb theory about it but it's probably just there to throw us off

i dunno i think gth it's just roden at this point? but i dunno what to think anymore i just townread everyone else more

more than roden. i dunno maybe it is just ari/datisi and nk15 is a god i really don't know what to think

You literally haven't interacted with me

What makes you think I'm scum

[bloodhail]

mb fire didnt shoot you cuz u said he was townie

idk me living atp is all wifom, dont wanna overthink it

[fireisredsir]

Tbh you likely would've died if Mena hadn't replaced out since he was tunneled on town slots.

what slots are you referring to here

The slots he was tunneled on.

We had this conversation yesterday.

...did we? i can't find it

why are you so confident in them being town?

[Save The Dragons]

i think the kill is weird and i too have a dumb theory about it but it's probably just there to throw us off

i dunno i think gth it's just roden at this point? but i dunno what to think anymore i just townread everyone else more

more than roden. i dunno maybe it is just ari/datisi and nk15 is a god i really don't know what to think

You literally haven't interacted with me

What makes you think I'm scum

mala

[Roden]

Can anyone explain why they think I bus Datisi instead of just voting out Elephant and setting up Mena as the next mis-elim?

[Roden]

Tbh you likely would've died if Mena hadn't replaced out since he was tunneled on town slots.

what slots are you referring to here

The slots he was tunneled on.

We had this conversation yesterday.

...did we? i can't find it

why are you so confident in them being town?

Mena switching from "kill STD" to "kill Rella -> Ari" after acknowledging he's the most likely elim today feels like a spew that would be harmful to his scum partner since I don't think it would be either of them in that scenario,

I dont understand this bit

Basically scum doesn't make those posts and final read lists if they know they're gonna die. Rena/Elephant and Rena/Ari don't work as scum teams at that point either since they don't fit a scum agenda. I wish was more eloquent in getting my thoughts across but I can't think of a better way of explaining it.

It was with Skitter actually but yeah.

[Roden]

i think the kill is weird and i too have a dumb theory about it but it's probably just there to throw us off

i dunno i think gth it's just roden at this point? but i dunno what to think anymore i just townread everyone else more

more than roden. i dunno maybe it is just ari/datisi and nk15 is a god i really don't know what to think

You literally haven't interacted with me

What makes you think I'm scum

mala

Go on.