Micro 1054 || Fuzzy Friends Coalition || Game Over!

bloodhail · Post Post #2575 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2022 2:48 am

also silly but i don't rly think roden kills faker here

Aristeia · Post Post #2576 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2022 3:43 am

In post 2569, Aristeia wrote:
In post 1038, skitter30 wrote:Ok if std being in it isnt viable i can probably compromise on that but that is not my ideal, i really would like std in it

And honestly to be perfectly frank if it failed i would probably flip you first
Probablh something like dats -> mena -> ari -> irrel
Maybe swap mena/ari idk
you said here you wanted to kill him if the coalition failed

so I'd rather let him take a shot with his coalition - then if you want to kill him still, it'd be like his fault for the coalition failing so he'd have some agency in it.

if you had pushed skitter/irrel/mena/std/datisi thru, and then coalition failed, i would not have been happy with you killing datisi cuz it wouldn't have been his coalition that failed.

it is kind of weird why dats didnt just take the ski/irrel/mena/std/datisi coalition tho

I'd think that'd be easier for him to dodge the mislim in and std would be easier to mislim.

i actually dont understand why he dragged me into things

Aristeia · Post Post #2577 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2022 3:44 am

maybe its just a trajectory thing - he already ate'd me into voting for his coalition so it would look weird af to switch things up

Aristeia · Post Post #2578 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2022 3:46 am

there are some very good spots in fire's iso but on the balance I still feel like this is clever scheming scum!fire rather than say just town!fire; I could be like unreasonably tunneled on his slot - I have a tendency to get unreasonably tunneled.

bloodhail · Post Post #2579 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2022 3:53 am

In post 2578, Aristeia wrote:there are some very good spots in fire's iso but on the balance I still feel like this is clever scheming scum!fire rather than say just town!fire; I could be like unreasonably tunneled on his slot - I have a tendency to get unreasonably tunneled.

elaborate for me a little on this?

skitter30 · Post Post #2580 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2022 3:53 am

Like there is a little ???? in the back of my mind going: well what if you're both scum which is why you voted him in

I'm leaning towards that being somewhat unlikely due to other things (like eod yesterday/how dats got flipped)

But like it is in the back of my mind

@ari

skitter30 · Post Post #2581 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2022 3:54 am

And yeah ig interested in hearing more abt clever scheming fire too

skitter30 · Post Post #2582 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2022 3:54 am

In post 2561, Not Known 15 wrote:I have something to say later. Please don't rush any lim. We have enough time to discuss. Remember that scum was only caught very late into day 1.

Why later?

skitter30 · Post Post #2583 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2022 3:55 am

Also tfw you get bloodhail's ans nk15's posts mixed up

bloodhail · Post Post #2584 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2022 3:58 am

unfortunate that i committed to the bit of being a noavi on this account

Aristeia · Post Post #2585 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2022 3:59 am

like fire saying to include me cuz if im scum its with a townread partner around the time you were looking for a fifth for your team is incredibly brave if he is partnered with datisi

Aristeia · Post Post #2586 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2022 4:01 am

In post 887, fireisredsir wrote:i think if ari is scum she's likely scum with someone who is already in, and so there is very little utility to leaving her out

In post 875, skitter30 wrote:Probably still you but apparently i relish paranoia and indecision
I.e. i'm still not confident on a 5th yet, if i had to pick one would probably be you but still not confident enuf to settle on that if that makes sense

I will probably get over this closer to deadline

like if you just say ok ill add ari and the team is fire-dats they just lose?

bloodhail · Post Post #2587 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2022 4:02 am

i think i always flip nk15 today and if its a hard world where someone played cleverly we cross that bridge tomorrow

bloodhail · Post Post #2588 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2022 4:03 am

it is super hard for me to actually keep track of what was going on in the coalition phase because i wasn't here for it and haven't read linearly

skitter30 · Post Post #2589 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2022 4:04 am

At rhat moment i think i was talking abt dats
And that's a point in fire's favor, no?

Pedit yeah i'm sure >.>

Aristeia · Post Post #2590 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2022 4:06 am

In post 1679, fireisredsir wrote:UNVOTE:

mmm don't really need that sitting at e-1 rn

reflexively unvoting irrel at e-1 2 min after mena puts irrel there (vc was bad and I didnt even notice the e-1 vote)

extended the day after his trajectory getting on the relly wagon was early and fine imo.

Aristeia · Post Post #2591 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2022 4:07 am

In post 2589, skitter30 wrote:At rhat moment i think i was talking abt dats
And that's a point in fire's favor, no?

Pedit yeah i'm sure >.>

yes it is

he is asking me what i found that were good points in fire's favor

bloodhail · Post Post #2592 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2022 4:12 am

In post 2591, Aristeia wrote:
In post 2589, skitter30 wrote:At rhat moment i think i was talking abt dats
And that's a point in fire's favor, no?

Pedit yeah i'm sure >.>
yes it is

he is asking me what i found that were good points in fire's favor

well i was actually asking why you think it's scheming scum-fire in particular

skitter30 · Post Post #2593 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2022 4:12 am

Ah i thought he was asking about scheming-scum-fire

Pedit lol

Aristeia · Post Post #2594 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2022 4:14 am

I guess the reason I don't like trust fire despite these points

is that they could easily be planted/designed to look good on iso review rather than organically generated?

its like having something that is good if things show up later down the line rather than just naturally be good.

as in performative.

like how does he know unvoting relly is good if he doesnt know relly is town?

how does he know i am town and me joining skitters coalition would win the game?

its like something that looks good but not in the moment.

Aristeia · Post Post #2595 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2022 4:16 am

like in lake melancholy

fire was not very protown in his voting? he just kind of tunneled on town afair and was wrong. but his thought process was v pure

here it feels like it is designed to look good.

Aristeia · Post Post #2596 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2022 4:16 am

i dont actually have too much confidence in this read lol.

i just have feeeels

Aristeia · Post Post #2597 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2022 4:20 am

also i have stupid reason for thinking nk15 is town

like

1) i think dats was telling truth about why he isnt partnered with nk15 - sounded like offended caught for wrong reasons dats

2) i think nk15!scum would enjoy voting and pushing datisi!scum partner but he never did

my reasons r somewhat stupid so i would never let nk15 actually endgame with them so i am fine if you want to kill him today. i think very good chance i am just wrong here

fireisredsir · Post Post #2598 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2022 4:22 am

In post 2595, Aristeia wrote:like in lake melancholy

fire was not very protown in his voting? he just kind of tunneled on town afair and was wrong. but his thought process was v pure

here it feels like it is designed to look good.

fwiw i am kinda trying to be more of a glue player here bc i stuck to my guns there and was mostly wrong instead of just listening to my townreads

so like yes that was an intentional change

but idk i prob would do the same as scum lol so maybe that isn't helpful

bloodhail · Post Post #2599 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2022 4:23 am

In post 2595, Aristeia wrote:like in lake melancholy

fire was not very protown in his voting? he just kind of tunneled on town afair and was wrong. but his thought process was v pure

here it feels like it is designed to look good.

idk like im on the same thing where i think his thought process this game has been believable even if his play has largely been pro-scum (sorry fire lol)