large normal 239. game over

[Nero Cain]

how does this make you feel?

[Nero Cain]

This NK15 wagon feels like it exists solely because people don't like the Tako wagon

Also, it's one guy voting the b/c he thinks nk15 is scum, and VD votes anything that moves.

[Carcalilly]

This NK15 wagon feels like it exists solely because people don't like the Tako wagon

Solely? Do you think we just rolled a dice and chose someone at random? Tako is eh, but a case based off being awful at metagaming < putting someone who doesn't even seem to be trying to play the game in the spot. I doubt the entire tako wagon will did out just for this and multiwagons help the gamestate I reckon.

[Carcalilly]

"*die out", not 'did out'

[Not Known 15]

This NK15 wagon feels like it exists solely because people don't like the Tako wagon

Solely? Do you think

we

just rolled a dice and chose someone at random? Tako is eh, but a case based off being awful at metagaming < putting someone who doesn't even seem to be trying to play the game in the spot. I doubt the entire tako wagon will did out just for this and multiwagons help the gamestate I reckon.

What's the "we" doing there?

[Carcalilly]

This NK15 wagon feels like it exists solely because people don't like the Tako wagon

Solely? Do you think

we

just rolled a dice and chose someone at random? Tako is eh, but a case based off being awful at metagaming < putting someone who doesn't even seem to be trying to play the game in the spot. I doubt the entire tako wagon will did out just for this and multiwagons help the gamestate I reckon.

What's the "we" doing there?

I use collective pronouns when talking about wagons. What did you think it was?

[Carcalilly]

@Nero

Just for the record, are you SRing IVD because of a poor attempt to case you, or how he backed out of engagement? What would you have expected from a town!IVD?

[Nero Cain]

I think if VD were town and actually had a scum read on me he would have continued to sit on me instead of leave at the drop of a haat.

but yes the poor case is scummy as shit too

[SirCakez]

vla until monday

[Carcalilly]

I think if VD were town and actually had a scum read on me he would have continued to sit on me instead of leave at the drop of a haat.

but yes the poor case is scummy as shit too

Ngl, I saw it more as an attempt to get the game rolling from its semi-beginning state than anything else, which is why I feel alright about it. I'll admit I kinda disregarded the content of it since it seemed to me like pure metagaming which idk anything about.

Your other SRs are kitty and gamma, correct? I sorta understand your stance on kitty but your read on gamma confuses me a tad.

something about the way italiano cased nero feels off to me

I think VD is overzealous but don't think that's scum-indicative yet

you think someone is off but not that they are scum, what is this?

This comment for example, you felt the need to call out/question when I feel like you understood the sentiment.

I still rather VD or Kitty. Like I get why TS is getting wagoned and in a vacuum his post was scummy as all get out but I sorta think he's town and scum are wagoning him.

How's he not scummy in an atmosphere then?

sometimes ppl that are "scummy" still have a town pm.

[Enchant]

Sometimes scummy people have town PM.
Sometimes town people have scum PM.

Solution? KILLEVERYONE

VOTE: NK15

[KittyTacky]

The sheeping, the lack of input, and the wagon you jumped from to get there.

I don't really see it, NK seems town on gut to me.

[KittyTacky]

Kitty, nowhere has anyone said that they are voting you because you didn’t case Nero.

Why do you still claim this?

Well it came across this way. Elaborate why you think my response to pressure is scummy.

I think that you have prioritised stamping out suspicion cast against you (scum-motivated) over trying to determine whether people are town or scum (town-motivated)

this is actually a personality indicator more often than it is an alignment indicator

a better question I think to ask is what Kitty is trying to appear to be doing

yes, Kitty is hyper-conscious of the pressure/votes on them, but like it's so clearly a big issue from them I'm more likely to just attribute that as a personal reaction to pressure regardless of alignment. I would suspect scum!Kitty to be more aware of how they are coming off, and even if they had a similar reaction, to maybe play it off as less of a big deal. I'm not town reading Kitty necessarily but I'm not sure I buy this case

I think my top townreads are Gamma, RCE, over90 and Carcalilly

also side note as I'm reading, DV, why do you town read RCE?

Yeah I don't like being pressured as either alignment. It's NAI for me.

[KittyTacky]

NK15 is an even flashier wagon than Tako. Kinda weird.

[over90]

The sheeping, the lack of input,

and the wagon you jumped from to get there.

Explain.

what about my explanation?

nk15 has the weakest vote here (because he voted kitty and with no reason he quotes kitty's reason to vote right after kitty to taco, that's really bad), buuuut suddenly taco says it is ok for nk15, and bosco is playing with nk15, so i will ignore him for a while (and bosco is not so town for me now too; and i want to ignore taco too rn)

[over90]

nk, u need to give your thoughts about the players with explanation

because sometime you are susp for me. but it is also interesting how many defenders you have: bosco, kitty and even tak(c)o

[over90]

go place std on e-1, please
is it so hard?

[over90]

Italiano, why dont you vote STD?

[takotsubo syndrome]

DV talk to me about carca.

83 was the sort of thing that was out-of-line with what other people were doing at the time. You could argue that scum would do an unprompted reads list to look town, but more likely they'll try to match the vibe of what the town is putting out there and not stand out.

309 reads as genuinely confused by the flurry of votes on tako (I was confused too) and again, is a way of standing out. Admitting to not seeing what others are seeing is a bit scary for scum.

325 seems to really be trying to understand over90's thought process. I'm not sure what purpose it really serves for scum.

Feels really town to me.

[takotsubo syndrome]

I see someone talked about why Tako? I’ll talk about why I voted for Tako later when I get home.

Underwhelming at best.

[Nero Cain]

why are you being so useless with your vote tako?

[Nero Cain]

This comment for example, you felt the need to call out/question when I feel like you understood the sentiment.

you don't feel that it's a little contradictory? Arguing that something is off but not scum reading said slot seems real fence sitty to me.

Ngl, I saw it more as an attempt to get the game rolling from its semi-beginning state than anything else, which is why I feel alright about it. I'll admit I kinda disregarded the content of it since it seemed to me like pure metagaming which idk anything about.

this is...a very generous spin. Like obviously, players can have a different opinion than me but I didn't really feel like it was to get the game rolling. I think the game was going absolutely fine. When he voted me and pushed me he had 3 votes on him so his vote seemed way more of a reaction to getting wagoned than trying to start the game.

He also spent a good chunk of time talking about me and defending his case and absolutely doubled down in 398. If this was some "lol i wuz just getting the game rolling." Then I would sorta expect him to start being serious. Or maybe it's serious dedication to a gimmick? It's maybe something we can give a few days for but this shouldn't be anywhere near lylo.

One thing that does kinda bother me is

and yet you didn't vote me until I voted you. If you found my posting scummy prior to 58 why not call me out?

it was inside the spoiler of 124 but I know you didn't click on it b/c you didn't care about my responses b/c this is just an agenda driven push back.

Already answered in 154.

And I just feel like

I don't care about OMGUS, I think you're scum. Even though there hasn't been much of anything in this game so far, I feel town!you would've done more by now.

Is a total nonanswer.

[RCEnigma]

The sheeping, the lack of input,

and the wagon you jumped from to get there.

Explain.

Following your scumread to a wagon isn't a good look. I already thought the kitty vote was showy but not in a way I can justify without context.

[Not Known 15]

The sheeping, the lack of input,

and the wagon you jumped from to get there.

Explain.

Following your scumread to a wagon isn't a good look. I already thought the kitty vote was showy but not in a way I can justify without context.

That was a minor scumread. Not much more than null. The reasons given for the tako votes looked good for me, so I voted.

[RCEnigma]

I'd prefer dann but I'm fine with NK's wagon.