large normal 239. game over

[ItalianoVD]

This is in response to 491, so please follow along.

I made my first post in 27 which was a tongue in cheek comment about RVS.

Both Carca and SirCakez respond to it. Haven’t read the thread.

2 hours later I respond to SirCakez and holla at Gamma. Still haven’t read the thread.

There’s a pagetop from Carca, a joke. I respond with 55 and 56, still haven’t read the thread.

7 hours pass from the time I post 55 / 56 and when I post 92. I, within that time, had decided to get serious and read the game from page 1 and that’s when you start pinging my antennas with the comments and how you were interacting with the different players, etc.

Another 4 hours later I respond to you with why I think you’re scum in 106.

These are the events and how they transpired sequentially, so again what point are you trying to make about 55/56. I don’t think you are quoting the right posts.

[Save The Dragons]

UNVOTE: need a moment to get my head back into this game

[Save The Dragons]

VOTE: sircakez

[Save The Dragons]

Eh, let me know when things get serious. I’ll be back later.

Why not make them serious yourself?

posting just to post to increase thread presence

Seems like Nero is pre apologizing for being scum

this joke is just so stilted like hyuk hyuk i'm not scum but nero is lol

Can we just not delve into setup spec when we have literally zero information as a whole.

Why even make this post the setup spec was fine

again posting just to post

Ignore that Nashed quote my phone has a bug

why was your only comment to bring up something someone else mentioned?

I mean I really didn't have much to comment on while catching up. Majority of what has been posted looks like it's been in jest aka the traitor/jester/mason claim.
This just very serious in like a very jokey time & felt very off.

This is such a scum thing to post

VOTE: takotsubo

able to jump onto this vote without actually saying much of anything

I find it funny ppl shaded kitty for not wanting to case early and then shaded italiano for casing early. Or was it setup spec? Either way it felt a bit trigger happy there.

Who are people? This is shade casting without anyone in specific named

casts random shade on carcallilly #1

If there's scum on the Tako wagon it's probably Save the Dragons

casts random shade on me #2

Gamma and Nero are in weird spots. I want to scumread gamma but I don't think anything they've done feels like gamma!scum. I hate the taco wagon but gamma doesn't jump out as the scummiest vote. I had them as townish before the wagon though so ehh.

Hate all of this it's such a fencesit

Fixed

casts random shade on RCEnigma #3

Dannflors entrance was so underwhelming

casts random shade on Dannflor #4

Sircakez vibes are off. he's throwing shade just to throw it, not to scumhunt, and a lot of it isn't really clarified. his entry posts are stilted and look like they're posting just to post. i think it's sircakez here.

[Not Known 15]

I'll do more tomorrow. For now:UNVOTE:

[Nero Cain]

lol

I wasn't reading the thread

is just such a convenient response. It's a hard swallow given that you were actively responding to a joke. I can't "prove" anything and coincidences do happen but I just don't really believe you when you say that you weren't reading the game and that your vote wasn't retaliation.

[ItalianoVD]

These are the events and how they transpired sequentially, so again what point are you trying to make about 55/56. I don’t think you are quoting the right posts.

[DeasVail]

Notice Nero is planted nicely, still on his RVS vote from pg2, and yet seems to be coaching from the sidelines instead of in the trenches trying to actually figure out the game.

Throwing out shade here, little fun comments there. I’m telling you people, this is NOT town!Nero

But what

is

town!Nero then? I'm not confident that Nero is town here, but I'm used to him throwing shade. What would be different about him as town?

[DeasVail]

btw, italiano and nero - is it possible that you are both towns? just think some time about it, just in case. bc if you are townies, it is difficult to understand the game through your fighting, when you are considering each other the most scum. if you are so sure, then we have at least 1 scum between two of you and it will be useful to check any of you using a cop, for example italiano, to understand both your sides with 1 shot. Right? And to eliminate someone else, smb who is more lurking

them both being town is my best guess tbh

[DeasVail]

I like your post on Cakez, STD. I had him as a lazy weak townread, but I realise that really wasn't based on much.

My current "would be willing to vote" pool is:

Dannflor
Cakez
Bosco
Nashed
Not Known

[Carcalilly]

y can't he just have a gut read? Why does his read have to be explained?

Yeah it’s bugging me too.

It’s odd that Lily is getting on my case for scum reading gamma.

Lily how much exp you have with Gamma?

Eh, some? I just got out of a game with him and he's playing essentially the same way, and he was town that game so

[ItalianoVD]

Okay, I have some time to be around and get fully caught up and try to cover the things I missed. Anyone else on?

[KittyTacky]

Sorry for being inactive, I was busy IRL. Readlist coming soon.

[ItalianoVD]

I need to update my reads a bit and give more of what's going on in my head.

Carcalilly, Kitty, SirCakez, NK15, Gamma

Nash, Enchant, DeasVail, Tako, mq.bosco

over90, RCEnigma, StD, Dannflor

Nero

*

blue

- strong townlean, *

green

- medium townlean, *

yellow

- weak townlean, *

brown

- weak scumlean, *

orange

- medium scumlean, *

red

- strong scumlean

I was weakly townreading Gamma just because. I had to ask myself if there is anything that is making it weak and there really wasn't so I moved him up to medium townlean. I'm always hesitant to fully townread Gamma but most of the time I just choose to do so and hope I'm right. It feels like that here.

NK15 could possibly be town as well as I really don't think scum would be that obvious as to jump onto a wagon so blatantly. I know it's wifom, I tend to do that a lot when it comes to scum, but I don't think a player like NK15 who is experienced would be that glaring. I mean Tako

was

scummy and it makes sense for a town!NK to jump onto a scummy wagon.

I moved Tako up. There was something both he and SirCakez said that I don't really think scum would say:

ItalianoVD is just a hard player to read in general

. I have read two past games of his and he was a hard slot to sort for them. I just haven't seen him case someone so early though.

I don't have a read on Italiano yet his posting style makes him hard for me to read

As you can see in my signature, town find me hard to read regardless of my alignment. Scum obviously don't. Like they

could

say that as scum, but they don't need to, they would just jump on me. So those posts are gonna keep them in my townbin for now.

I've kinda already said my piece on Dannflor. His entrance was pretty questionable just picking out Kitty, but was okay with the vote on RC. RC really went to bat for Nero and even admitted it and Nero was okay with it, but when Gamma slightly defends Nero, he (Nero) scumreads him (Gamma). They could possibly be partners. Would scum!RC admit to defending his partner but then say he doesn't townread him.

I will note I'm doing a lot of Nero defending and I don't even townread them. The slots coming at him are just being slimy.

I think the answer is yes.

I'm gonna wait until SirCakez returns to respond to StD's case, but my eyes are there.

over90 is weird, but honestly he could be town, now that I know I was mistaken with the Vasex identity. Could he be StD's scumpartner? It's possible, they haven't really interacted.

[ItalianoVD]

@ItalianoVD, few years ago I played mafia in client – like browser games with ~20 mins for one game, ranking, etc. And that was the time I played mafia in forum - maybe 2-3 games easy difficulty, but then abandoned both. Fortnight ago returned to the old forum, tried to play again – it was bad idea: for some, I really dunno them, reasons I have not calm talks, I have only conflicts with players (don't worry, I'm not a monster, I think that so happens, cause in forum formed community, which no need new players). One of forum's players suggested this site. So nope, I'm not a twink, this is my first game here.

Were you generally active because this game is kinda a rough one for you. Perhaps a culture shock?

[Nero Cain]

These are the events and how they transpired sequentially, so again what point are you trying to make about 55/56. I don’t think you are quoting the right posts.

this is such gaslighting. I think my point is plenty clear and you are just going "but I wasn't reading the game, I just happened to start reading the game shortly after you called for more votes on me." as if that trumps everything.

Also look @ how selective 500 is. Yes, his lack of scumhunting was part of my point but there was a chunk of 491 dedicated to his strange use of vote and he just didn't comment at all.

them both being town is my best guess tbh

naw, you aren't even commenting or reading so I doubt you even know what it's about. You are just like the majority of players who idly call a 1v1 TvT b/c A.) Numerically it's more likely B.) You aren't invested C.) you aren't reading

Why is VD town?
Why is my case wrong?
Why do you like his defense to my case?

Also, note that his vote is currently resting on his town read b/c he's waiting around for town to start a new wagon instead of being proactive.

[ItalianoVD]

Also, note that his vote is currently resting on his town read b/c he's waiting around for town to start a new wagon instead of being proactive.

Oh snap you’re right, I completely forgot.

VOTE: Nero

Join me in voting out scum my peeps.

[ItalianoVD]

My vote doesn’t change. Let’s not make the mistake of letting scum!Nero slip through our fingers!

[Nero Cain]

y do you think nk15 is town?

[Nero Cain]

I bet I could v/la for the rest of the game and still be the top poster.

[over90]

I bet I could v/la for the rest of the game and still be the top poster.

so i'll be dead soon?

[over90]

it is so difficult to unvote nk15...

[NashedPotato]

Back from V/LA but still have to work my 8 hour shift before I catch up. I have been reading here and there but I haven't been able to follow up without the context. This page has me think italiano is scum, they've been adamant about my post from earlier being scummy or whatever they said and here they have me as a town-lean? I didn't post after that, seems fake as shite.

Will catch up after my shift.

[Enchant]

it is so difficult to unvote nk15...

Not really.

VOTE: NK15

Oh wait. Indeed.

[KittyTacky]

y do you think nk15 is town?

For me it's mostly gut.