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[Enchant]

Techically he didn't quote every post.

Lazy effort.

UNVOTE:

[Nero Cain]

I think this is the first time I've been called LHF lol

Readlist coming soon.

is there a reason this didn't happen?

I bet I could v/la for the rest of the game and still be the top poster.

so i'll be dead soon?

???

y do you think nk15 is town?

For me it's mostly gut.

Was asking VD not you. But while we are on the subject of you and reads...you light called me scum but needed me to post more which is a fence sit, you called NK15 town on gut and said that tako's post was gross and voted him. Do you have any of your own thoughts or anything based on actual events of this game?

responces to nk15

Spoiler:

Why did you shade here, Nero?

like I said before, it was a cheeky comment to a q that I deemed silly.

Nero do you like low power setups?

it seems like most setups are low powered setups. Personally, I think town does need a significant amount of power but otherwise, I don't really care about the setup. My frowny face was about the ridiculousness of there being 3 scum in a 16 player. If this were a thing then I think the mod is screwing over the scum team. Only way a 3 scum makes sense to me is if there was a SK.

A bit evasive, why no push, why is this so toned down?

I was already pushing who I felt like was scum.

And just when I said I thought you were town, you do this.

Why was nk15's post scummy?

Gamma, do you have any solid towns? Except Carcalilly

Italiano

explain both reads please?

[Nero Cain]

You guys need to stop watching real housewives of random city b/c not everything is shade and I don't think the term translates very well. Expressing suspicion on someone is not shade. Shade can only come from scum that's trying to cast doubt on someone.

[DeasVail]

My vote doesn’t change. Let’s not make the mistake of letting scum!Nero slip through our fingers!

This feels incredibly exaggerated

[ItalianoVD]

There's a lot to unpack here. Geez, lol. First, Gamma's vote was a real vote? That's news to me, I had no idea. I thought it was RVS and he was saying what's up. Gamma can confirm, but if so it doesn't change my read on him. Town!Gamma should be scumreading me, if he doesn't that actually makes me more suspicious.

The one major thing about your post that doesn't make sense to me is how you arrive at lhf Nero, given the several scumlean posts you had.

How many scums are here in large?

check ur pt

Why did you shade here, Nero?

DeasVail - or maybe this one is mafia

Why

prob b/c its pretty basic to be wary of a neg utility claim b/c every once in a while scum do claim one and skate by.

day is young but I already want to kill half this thread. I really am a roman emporer!

This is quite scummy. Shade towards neg utility (Possible vs probable)

DeasVail - or maybe this one is mafia

Why

prob b/c its pretty basic to be wary of a neg utility claim b/c every once in a while scum do claim one and skate by.

day is young but I already want to kill half this thread. I really am a roman emporer!

I don't recall asking you. You may have given them a free way out of answering it properly.

Correct. Another reason to scumread Nero.

Why

y not? its p4 and you are concerned about a wagon on ???? players lol

Good point.

VOTE: Nero

This is not town!Nero.

Nero is SCUM!!!

A bit exaggeration here...

y is this not town Nero?

Strange question.

cakes with the scummy move of voting my dv enabler

why's that scummy?

Nero what do you think about gamma?

in a not so surprising note, I don't really like him that much.

Didn't really like his soft defense of me in VOTE: 48 and I think his thought that there could be 3 scum is laughable. Would be funny if he was scum that slipped that his team was 3 wich means there'd be a traitor and guy true claimed his traitor role.

Why go for funny? Is this something you believe or not?

Yeah I don't feel this Nero is particularly similar to his town play.

I won't vote him so early, but I'll scrutinize his posts more.

Partners?

?????

joking about being a jester is dumb

Partners??

y is this not town Nero?

I know town!Nero And all this right here...

Spoiler:

Is that something you actually believe b/c that seems like a silly thought.

scum!nero patronizes scumreads.

im town
i responded faster than anyone else

town!nero doesn't say he's town.

How many scums are here in large?

check ur pt

scum!nero shades

DeasVail - or maybe this one is mafia

Why

prob b/c its pretty basic to be wary of a neg utility claim b/c every once in a while scum do claim one and skate by.

day is young but I already want to kill half this thread. I really am a roman emporer!

Why are you answering questions not addressed to you? I'm sure I remember you calling this out in games I've played with you. town!nero doesn't

"want to kill half the thread"

!

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


more votes on ItalianoVD

town!nero is NOT lazy!

JV, you are asking the silliest questions right now....

More patronizing?

Why

y not? its p4 and you are concerned about a wagon on ???? players lol

And yet more...

Nero what do you think about gamma?

in a not so surprising note, I don't really like him that much.

Didn't really like his soft defense of me in VOTE: 48 and I think his thought that there could be 3 scum is laughable. Would be funny if he was scum that slipped that his team was 3 wich means there'd be a traitor and guy true claimed his traitor role.

scum!nero thinks everything is amusing. And yet more shade.

...ain't it.

So yeah you are SCUM!! You die today!

Interesting post, but all based on meta without backing it up.

Spoiler:

I know town!Nero And all this right here...

and yet you didn't vote me until I voted you. If you found my posting scummy prior to 58 why not call me out?

scum!nero patronizes scumreads.

Do I? But even if do I don't think I was patronizing cakez.

town!nero doesn't say he's town.

pretty sure this is untrue. I mean true, I don't yell I'm town ad nausem but the idea that I don't call myself town as town is ludicrous and I don't think you actually believe this.

scum!nero shades

PROVIDING SHADE IS A SERVICE!

but real talk

I feel like accusing someone of "shade" has prob lost its meaning these days. I and others are accused of "shade" all the time when it's just scumhunting. In this particular case, it was more of a cheeky comment b/c the how many scum are in a particular setup is or should be pretty easy to discern. Now over90 might actually be new and not an alt so I don't hold it against him but hamma's 3 in a 16 is

town!nero doesn't "want to kill half the thread"!

I'm always bloodlusty as town.

town!nero is NOT lazy!

no, I am not. What makes you think the leading poster is being lazy? "zzzzzzzz" is something I post when I think things are boring. For someone that claims to know me, it sure is odd that you didn't know that.

More patronizing?

I don't think you know what this word means.

And yet more...

it was a semi-serious RVS page 4 wagon with 2 votes on you and STD was making a big deal over it.

Honestly, this feels like a lazy OMGUS case where you just when through my ISO and put down "scumNero does this, scumNero does that."

Good point.

so kitty r u gonna engage me or are you just trying to keep me at arms length?

Don't like this, why should kitty do that? Scummy.

and now your case is that I haven't done enough.

Wrong.

I think Italiano looks like scum looking for an easy mislim(Nero). Their case is built on sand, and not in a way I'd expect from a wrong town. It is just too wrong.

How you end up where you end up for Nero is very strange.

[ItalianoVD]

Also when has Nero ever been lhf?

[Nero Cain]

Why r u town reading gamma? Why should town Gamma scum read you?

[ItalianoVD]

Why do you keep asking questions I already answer expecting a different one?

[over90]

Techically he didn't quote every post.

Lazy effort.

UNVOTE:

Hmmm

What is the reason of your unvoting?

[over90]

???

i can be much more active than you

[Nero Cain]

Why do you keep asking questions I already answer expecting a different one?

I don't remember you really talking about why Gamma is town. I know you said something about you light town reading him but nothing preventing you from hard town reading him so you moved him up but I don't remember you giving out the reasons for your town read in the first place.

likewise don't remember you talking about why gamma town should scum read you. He's also not scum reading you and you aren't reacting to that.

[RCEnigma]

Here i'll try. Why should town!Gamma be scumreading you d1 Italiano? And why does Gamma townreading you right now still make Gamma town from your pov?

[over90]

Enchant, I really need your updated opinion about nk15, italiano and maybe someone else... And I need to understand your reasons. Please help me with that

[Nero Cain]

I was weakly townreading Gamma just because. I had to ask myself if there is anything that is making it weak and there really wasn't so I moved him up to medium townlean. I'm always hesitant to fully townread Gamma but most of the time I just choose to do so and hope I'm right. It feels like that here.

As far as I can tell this is the most you've talked about him and "im town reading him just because" isn't great reasoning so I think my question is plenty valid. Still interested in why he should be scumreading you and why you aren't reacting to his town read of you.

557 feels like a deflect.

[over90]

btw, i consider nk15 is a scum right now, so your unvoting looks suspicious. Especially when ppl around us consider last activity of nk15 as very bad, like his voting for tako before that. Nk15 is your susp, but you are the only one who unvoted him for his strange actions with no explanation. you should talk about that, not remain silent

he prepared a huge post, then he create a conclusion after this "analysis"... but when he has talked with me in short fast dialog under this post, it appeared that there was a typo, and new conclusion was with huge logical problems, and when i pointed on that - he just dissappeared, he doesnt know what to say i his defense

and then you are unvoting him like nothing bad happened, moreover nk15 becomes more townie for you with no good reason - how is it possible? explain

[over90]

what to say i his defense

in his defense

[ItalianoVD]

Why should town Gamma scum read you?

It's not that he should it's that if I feel there isn't an attempt to sort me truthfully or just lazily throws out a townread it pings my radar. If I'm scumread me for fair reasons then what can I do, but try to be better.

[Nero Cain]

Gamma said that you felt "off" but then landed on a town read for ???? reasons. If you felt like he wasn't trying to sort you why do you have him so up high in your town list?

[ItalianoVD]

If you felt like he wasn't trying to sort you why do you have him so up high in your town list?

Never said this.

[ItalianoVD]

Here i'll try.

[ItalianoVD]

you ARE a rauthe alt right?

I am. What's that mean to you?

Explain this.

Simple. I wanted to know what it meant, why he brought it up, and if it changed anything.

just making sure. Your play just seems so different. Not sure if that's an alt thing or an alignment thing.

Well Rathe is a complete antithesis to how I truly play, but the foundation has always remained the same.

What does that mean?

Anyone who has played against Rathe knows what that means. What I mean by antithesis is self explanatory. If you've played with both accounts you know there are major differences. Anyone who wants to talk more in depth about it just pm me.

[ItalianoVD]

Gamma said that you felt "off" but then landed on a town read for ???? reasons.

Gotta ask Gamma.

[ItalianoVD]

These are the events and how they transpired sequentially,

so again what point are you trying to make about 55/56. I don’t think you are quoting the right posts.

[KittyTacky]

Im not chopping that wall and the only thing that i really think needs any clarification is..

Ooo actually VOTE: mq.bosco

Bosco's question was very lamist at the time. Although i do think new scum are likely to make a post like that in rvs I backed off when i checked that was although they had signed up for a newbie game this was their first game on site -- so it got a pass for the time being.

other things I want to speak about are:

1) I think your scumteam is a weird place to land with my slot especially. Like writing off my pushback against Italiano's case as a strawman when I gave evidence that poked holes in it from the beginning is disingenuous. Considering you also agree that the case is not concrete and probably on town. though ive only really come around to nero!town recently.

B) That your scumteam are majority slots carrying the thread in terms of readable content yet the VC's look the way they do with all of the major wagons that have stalled out being on town from your pov. That just doesnt line up.

3) The funky Gamma progression, it seems like you read gamma negatively up until they tell me how to snip OOG quotes -- which is helpful but not in game terms. I fail to see how that would flip a read in any case so maybe there is more to it.

D) you did remind me the other issue I had with carca's posting which was the rolefishing, with my slot is the one that sticks out but I think there was another instance this happened. I remember making mental notes that it was something to keep a tab on but, goldfish memory.
Also the ignoring my question in 87 but its not super important.

Why mix letters and numbers?

[KittyTacky]

I think this is the first time I've been called LHF lol

Readlist coming soon.

is there a reason this didn't happen?

I have to prepare for the exams, not much time. I'll do it when I have time.

I bet I could v/la for the rest of the game and still be the top poster.

so i'll be dead soon?

???

y do you think nk15 is town?

For me it's mostly gut.

Was asking VD not you. But while we are on the subject of you and reads...you light called me scum but needed me to post more which is a fence sit, you called NK15 town on gut and said that tako's post was gross and voted him. Do you have any of your own thoughts or anything based on actual events of this game?

You played with me before, you know how I play, early on I just kinda flop around before doing things when the game "clicks" for me. But yes I do. I'll need to give this gamestate a good think-over and/or a re-read, maybe later today.

responces to nk15

Spoiler:

Why did you shade here, Nero?

like I said before, it was a cheeky comment to a q that I deemed silly.

Nero do you like low power setups?

it seems like most setups are low powered setups. Personally, I think town does need a significant amount of power but otherwise, I don't really care about the setup. My frowny face was about the ridiculousness of there being 3 scum in a 16 player. If this were a thing then I think the mod is screwing over the scum team. Only way a 3 scum makes sense to me is if there was a SK.

A bit evasive, why no push, why is this so toned down?

I was already pushing who I felt like was scum.

And just when I said I thought you were town, you do this.

Why was nk15's post scummy?

Gamma, do you have any solid towns? Except Carcalilly

Italiano

explain both reads please?