large normal 239. game over

[ItalianoVD]

When it comes to Nero there are only two theories at this point.

Theory #1

- He actually is town and my meta tell was mad wrong and we are miles apart in connection and understanding.

Theory #2

- I am right and he is in fact scum and the resistance I seem to feel around him when it comes to logic missing from his side of the conversation and getting any traction on him is because that resistance is coming from scum.

There is no theory where we are partners or I'm scum tunneling on town!nero, because I'm not scum, period. If people were paying attention they would have known that by now.

[ItalianoVD]

I'm not particularly convinced that Enchant is scum here. Possible sure but I don't agree that their posts are necessarily scum-indicative

Because he probably isn't.

Nero has successfully convinced me that I may have been giving Italiano too much of a free pass for high content and attitude, but I'm still not convinced that he's the right way to go atm.

Seriously? How? Smh.

NK15's mega-post in isolation does not do much for me, while Dannflor and NashedPotato remain as tasty backup options.

Tasty??

Is there any particular response you were hoping from me here?

Just respond honestly bruh, like what are we doing here? You don't have to actually answer the last one and we pretty much agree on the first one, but I definitely wanna get an answer to the second one.

[ItalianoVD]

sorry I've been kinda head out of it

can someone give me a small pointer on whats happened and I'll get off my ass and check it ty ty

Not sure what you missed, but not much has happened.

-The same old Italiano v Nero clash.
-NK15 posted possibly the largest wallpost I've ever seen, by quoting almost everything in game from page 1.
-Still haven't gotten anything more from Dann, Nash, and bosco.

I think that's all in general terms.

[RCEnigma]

We are at a point where a bunch of people are talking but the game is not progressing. That in mind im not keen on playing hot potato with the wagons and town should be looking to consolidate. Originally I voted Gamma because pressure is the most reliable way to read Gamma. The abrasive pushback is scum indicative for Gamma specifically. So is repping out under pressure but thats more angleshoot than meta i think

[over90]

ok elim gamma today

[ItalianoVD]

You're wrong about me and I believe you're wrong about Gamma and Carca.

If I'm scum then I'd know the alignments of you three and I wouldn't be "wrong." Seems like a strange way to talk to a scum read, no?

Not really. I mentioned that the strength of my scumread can never be 100%, unless it's a guilty, so of course I'm gonna have that in my mind.

It really feels like you are just trying to force us to see each other as scum

am I?

You were the one that wrote 554 and 566. My line of questioning was valid and 557 was a deflect.

So, if you're town, you didn't find it weird that NK pretty much was scumleaning you to arrive at lhf Nero. Scum!you probably doesn't care because it's of no substance to you. You seem overly okay with everyone else's scumminess and either convincing yourself or just scumming it up that I'm the target.

never played /w nero before but I'm struggling to see scum!italiano being the one to push it, feels too ballsy to me

I really feel like this is horrible reasoning.

Ngl, I saw it more as an attempt to get the game rolling from its semi-beginning state than anything else, which is why I feel alright about it. I'll admit I kinda disregarded the content of it since it seemed to me like pure metagaming which idk anything about.

and I didn't really like this super generous spin she gave you.

Why not? Is townreading me such a bad thing?

What's the difference between you calling RCE my buddy earlier and me saying that Cara would make sense on a scumteam w/ u?

Evidence vs conjecture.

not about you but 414 is also superbad. It most defiantly was a possible fencesit on Gamma and I could totally see a scum Cara just denfending for the town cred.

414 is Carca talking about RC. In any event, why couldn't it be town!Carca townreading a town!Gamma?

[ItalianoVD]

And we're not eliminating Gamma today.

[ItalianoVD]

Oh I just saw that he is getting replaced. Seriously?

[ItalianoVD]

Just vote Dragons, everyone had/has suspicions there. We consolidate there and that has more of a chance of going through than the others.

[ItalianoVD]

Spoiler:

vote count 1.4 !

takotsubo syndrome (3):

SirCakez, Gamma Emerald, KittyTacky,

Not Known 15 (3):

Carcalilly, DeasVail, over90

ItalianoVD (2):

Nero Cain, Not Known 15

Gamma Emerald (2):

takotsubo syndrome, RCEnigma

KittyTacky (1):

mq.bosco

mq.bosco (1):

NashedPotato

RCEnigma (1):

Dannflor

SirCakez (1):

Save The Dragons

Nero Cain (1):

ItalianoVD

not voting (1):

Enchant

with 16 alive, it takes 9 to cause someone to be ever so slowly slowly locked up in their own house. day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-06-05 13:31:22)

modorator notes

• cakez is VLA until monday

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Wow, all talk and not even a wagon there.
VOTE: Save the Dragons

[RCEnigma]

VOTE: Italiano since we're still playing favorites with meta.

[Nero Cain]

?????? r u meta scum reading VD?

[over90]

Just vote Dragons

Wow, all talk and not even a wagon there.
VOTE: Save the Dragons

Nah, we won't vote STD, because it is so interesting to see how you are playing your astonishment about things, that should make your green townies not so green anymore.... but u still want to elim std...

Carcalilly, Kitty, SirCakez, NK15, Gamma

What on Earth is this?

And just when I said I thought you were town, you do this.

whst do you think about nk15 now? is it still green for you?

Uhh, I really don't even know what to say. It doesn't make me feel good about it.

First, Gamma's vote was a real vote? That's news to me, I had no idea. I thought it was RVS and he was saying what's up. Gamma can confirm, but if so it doesn't change my read on him. Town!Gamma should be scumreading me, if he doesn't that actually makes me more suspicious.

Oh I just saw that he is getting replaced. Seriously?

[DeasVail]

I’m assuming it’s because VD is using meta for some reads but ignoring meta for others

(@nero)

[RCEnigma]

No lol not what I meant. But this is well within gammas scum meta and bring ignored in favor of std. Which yeah this is within his scumrange but his town game as well.

[RCEnigma]

But like, an STD wagon is such a cop out and Italiano can't justify the vote from a game state perspective because scum can't be controlling the wagons via resistance AND simultaneously just not playing (std).

[DeasVail]

I'm not particularly convinced that Enchant is scum here. Possible sure but I don't agree that their posts are necessarily scum-indicative

Because he probably isn't.

Nero has successfully convinced me that I may have been giving Italiano too much of a free pass for high content and attitude, but I'm still not convinced that he's the right way to go atm.

Seriously? How? Smh.

NK15's mega-post in isolation does not do much for me, while Dannflor and NashedPotato remain as tasty backup options.

Tasty??

Is there any particular response you were hoping from me here?

Just respond honestly bruh, like what are we doing here? You don't have to actually answer the last one and we pretty much agree on the first one, but I definitely wanna get an answer to the second one.

I don’t know what we’re doing here.

Your play feels very showy and I don’t know if you believe what you’re saying. You might and maybe that’ll become clearer idk but I’m not sure why you’re so BOTHERED by me thinking I was maybe being too generous in townreading you.

[NashedPotato]

Why hello there

[DeasVail]

Hello!

[NashedPotato]

Can someone sus me and fight me so I have the motivation to do something.

[NashedPotato]

Can someone sus me and fight me so I have the motivation to do something.

[DeasVail]

Can someone sus me and fight me so I have the motivation to do something.

I think you might be scum and even though I’m slightly less passionate about that now I still think it a little bit?

[Nero Cain]

I think nash tater is lurking scum and thier head should end up on the end of a pike

[Nero Cain]

so weak deas

[ItalianoVD]

Nah, we won't vote STD, because it is so interesting to see how you are playing your astonishment about things, that should make your green townies not so green anymore.... but u still want to elim std...

Yeah, so just as I expected your StD read was nothing.