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[Enchant]

Oh gosh i used emoji kill me fast

[humaneatingmonkey]

unforgivable and toxic

[Roden]

I don't think he's toxic, but he has burned a few people.

[humaneatingmonkey]

flea, what's your N_M related trauma?

[Flea The Magician]

Is N_M really that toxic? I've been playing with him and he seems like he's seriously playing so far. Sure, he might quickhammer here and there but that's part of his playstyle. Targetting N_M personally for a playstyle seems mean to me idk

Depends on who he picks on.
In this case, Nancy is the worst possible target. She's reactive and honestly can be easily provoked. Thing is she's shit hot at playing mafia and to me N_M's whole purpose here is to throw her off the game.

I'm the same, N_M has come at me as I'm reactive and have become toxic in a game before as a result. Getting a read on him is hard, thats fair, it's a game. But its so hard to get an actual insight into his thought process or state of the game reading its genuinely like pulling teeth. This can also lead to an overall lax gamestate with demotivated town meaning scum literally just get to coast.

On top of that, we have two lolhammers which is honestly amusing at first, but the novelty wears off fast.

[Not_Mafia]

Hem and nm are where my vote goes today.
Even if nm is town they are going to turn this game into a toxic are pile and be town neg.

You always say this

[humaneatingmonkey]

I have thoughts but I want N_M to react.

I also think there's more nuance to both N_M and Enchant than lolhammerers. Also targeting lolhammers for their playstyle in early game is more anti-town than lolhammering, hot take.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Hem and nm are where my vote goes today.
Even if nm is town they are going to turn this game into a toxic are pile and be town neg.

You always say this

So not scum-motivated — as in, targeting you as a low hanging fruit?

[Flea The Magician]

Hem and nm are where my vote goes today.
Even if nm is town they are going to turn this game into a toxic are pile and be town neg.

You always say this

not always.
I think I've said you're a toxic influence like twice? Lolhammering is just given to be town negative.

You're also damned good at this when you want to be.

[Flea The Magician]

I have thoughts but I want N_M to react.

I also think there's more nuance to both N_M and Enchant than lolhammerers. Also targeting lolhammers for their playstyle in early game is more anti-town than lolhammering, hot take.

Policy eliminations are better done early than late.
Lolhammering is always going to invoke policy - if not from me, from others.

they both absolutely have a lot more to their play than whats been said. Enchant can be sorted later and won't turn toxic. NM is hard to sort and generally has to be sorted early ime.

[Enchant]

I never lolhammer.

[Not_Mafia]

Neither do I

[Enchant]

I confirm.

[Facebones]

unforgivable and toxic

What's is? N_M calling everyone a clodpole or Enchant's uncharacteristic use of an emoji?

[Not_Mafia]

Nancy for trying to murder the innocent people of our town

[humaneatingmonkey]

N_M do you trust me

[Not_Mafia]

Possibly

[humaneatingmonkey]

Why tho

[Not_Mafia]

I like to give benefit of the doubt

[Facebones]

Where's this going? That question had to be leading up to something, right?
I'm intrigued

Please, do continue

[humaneatingmonkey]

But what HEM said was true

Nancy does thing ---> HEM points out that Nancy does thing --> Nancy asks where she did thing --> HEM shows where Nancy did thing --> Nancy calls it making shit up --> I hammer Nancy and she flips scum

N_M was so supportive here and it's so sweet, but i haven't really seen that before. not super exposed to N_M tho so i want others to weigh in if this is characteristic. so it could be evidence of pocketing behavior if it's out of his town range?

[humaneatingmonkey]

characteristic

uh... in-character maybe is a better word

[Facebones]

One of my first ever games on this site was against N_M in a newbie.
He lolhammered me on D1 I think it was? That or D2...

Don't recall us playing again after that
Mind you I've a memory like a sieve

In conclusion I've got nothing to note on what's in character and what's out of character
Did anyone besides Nancy and Enchant want to comment on this?

[humaneatingmonkey]

N_M in a newbie

im so sorry for your experience

[Enchant]

In my first game on this site, NM replaced in my mafia teammate slot.

I looked up info about him and discovered he likes to hammer. So i put someone on E-1 with some excuse to let him hammer without any real suspicions. I also dodged that, because it's my first game and i didn't knew better (well i did).