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[Nancy Sinatra]

nancy, you're spending less time finding scum and more time trying to prove us wrong. i still dont know why std and dwlee is scum, and if you think im the least sus, then im your audience.

I already explained this, read my posts.

And it’s day freaking 1: give me time.

And I could make that same criticism to everyone pushing me. Why aren’t YOU looking for scum - whomever is actually town not looking for a ridiculous miselim - that is.

Because I am fucking NOT scum here.

[Not_Mafia]

nai rvs post

I don't think it's nai though that's the point.

What is the point then?

Your mum

[Nancy Sinatra]

How many of you (HEM, STD, Dw) have played with Nancy as both alignments? I feel like you all have played more games with her than I have so I very much feel this should have never gotten to this level. Like when has N_M been taken serious. In all the games I’ve played with him he’s the usual trolly policy elim guy that everyone wants to kill, no one takes serious, and I defend.

I have I think but forget, and NM is actually good at the game and your discredit here is shit.

If he’s town here, he dropped the ball this time.

[Nancy Sinatra]

nai rvs post

I don't think it's nai though that's the point.

What is the point then?

Your mum

is 6 feet under.

[Not_Mafia]

And it’s day freaking 1: give me time.

That's no excuse, I've already caught scum

[humaneatingmonkey]

secretary monkey here

what we know is nancy is too intense, almost overreacting to pushes against her especially in the early game. the 4 of us view it as scum-motivated, as scum trying to survive being caught. roden, flea, gamma see it as not really that compelling a reason.

- dwlee thinks nancy is caught for the wrong reasons, and that the wagon is possibly town-motivated.
- i hold this opinion because i perceived her to be performative. i mindmeld with both dwlee and std when they point out that nancy's emotions are from being mad that she's caught for the wrong reasons.
- std vibes with this, but his confidence is faltering.
- flea even views it as town-motivated, as fae doesn't believe nancy acts like this as scum. fae believes the push is scum-motivated.
- roden thinks nm and sympathizes with nancy and thinks he'll react this way too. he also thinks nancy won't react like this as scum.
- gamma thinks nancy has her townmindset on because of a read she had made, and thinks the push is scum-motivated. (citation needed, gamma)

is this a good summary of events?

[humaneatingmonkey]

nancy, you're spending less time finding scum and more time trying to prove us wrong. i still dont know why std and dwlee is scum, and if you think im the least sus, then im your audience.

I already explained this, read my posts.

And it’s day freaking 1: give me time.

And I could make that same criticism to everyone pushing me. Why aren’t YOU looking for scum - whomever is actually town not looking for a ridiculous miselim - that is.

Because I am fucking NOT scum here.

yeah i didn't want this clapback from you. what i wanted was a dialogue. i think i've been ignoring you?

[schadd_]

if you like a girl that does what she's supposed to do
(and i don't)

vote count 1.4

Nancy Sinatra (2):

Dwlee99, Save The Dragons

Enchant (2):

humaneatingmonkey, Roden

Dwlee99 (2):

Gamma Emerald, Nancy Sinatra

Not_Mafia (1):

Not_Mafia

Save The Dragons (1):

KittyTacky

Roden (1):

Enchant

not voting (2):

Facebones, Flea The Magician

with 11 alive, it takes 6 to meet me up in heaven. day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-06-07 14:57:40)

modorator notes

• oh no beees

[Nancy Sinatra]

And it’s day freaking 1: give me time.

That's no excuse, I've already caught scum

Since I’m town, that isn’t possible.

[humaneatingmonkey]

i should note that both std and i was about to leave the nancy hypetrain for more productive endeavors before dwlee dropped his mixtape and changed the industry

[Nancy Sinatra]

secretary monkey here

what we know is nancy is too intense, almost overreacting to pushes against her especially in the early game. the 4 of us view it as scum-motivated, as scum trying to survive being caught. roden, flea, gamma see it as not really that compelling a reason.

- dwlee thinks nancy is caught for the wrong reasons, and that the wagon is possibly town-motivated.
- i hold this opinion because i perceived her to be performative. i mindmeld with both dwlee and std when they point out that nancy's emotions are from being mad that she's caught for the wrong reasons.
- std vibes with this, but his confidence is faltering.
- flea even views it as town-motivated, as fae doesn't believe nancy acts like this as scum. fae believes the push is scum-motivated.
- roden thinks nm and sympathizes with nancy and thinks he'll react this way too. he also thinks nancy won't react like this as scum.
- gamma thinks nancy has her townmindset on because of a read she had made, and thinks the push is scum-motivated. (citation needed, gamma)

is this a good summary of events?

Anyone truly interested in the truth will easily find what I’ve been saying to be true, if they metadived me. I am only least suspicious of you because you have no meta on me, so that makes your read on me the least bad because if you’e town here, you wouldn’t understand why the pushes on me are so bad.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

i should note that both std and i was about to leave the nancy hypetrain for more productive endeavors before dwlee dropped his mixtape and changed the industry

And that’s why I’m voting him.

[humaneatingmonkey]

the pushes are bad because they would have known you better and recognize that your play is actually from your town play, right?

[schadd_]

dwlee uses they/them

[Nancy Sinatra]

the pushes are bad because they would have known you better and recognize that your play is actually from your town play, right?

I’m town here and my reactions to being sr aren’t ai but yeah, I don’t play this way as scum which is why both Gamma and Flea - who have seen me as both alignments are defending me so hard.

And why Dwelee doubling and tripling down on his reasoning isn’t sitting well with me at all. Just read my games - both scum and town.

It’s glaringly obvious at this point.

[Nancy Sinatra]

the pushes are bad because they would have known you better and recognize that your play is actually from your town play, right?

I’m town here and my reactions to being sr aren’t ai but yeah, I don’t play this way as scum which is why both Gamma and Flea - who have seen me as both alignments are defending me so hard.

And why Dwelee doubling and tripling down on his reasoning isn’t sitting well with me at all. Just read my games - both scum and town.

It’s glaringly obvious at this point.

Shit.

THEY

[Nancy Sinatra]

Sorry Dwlee.

[Nancy Sinatra]

the pushes are bad because they would have known you better and recognize that your play is actually from your town play, right?

I have trouble with they’re refusal to re-evaluate, yes.

STD, how are my reactions any different here than in that dance game?

And clearly nothing remotely similar to FFIV - which Dwlee was also in?

And NM, where did I demonstrate even an iota of conviction in that Jingle game where I hydra’d with Koba?

~N

[humaneatingmonkey]

how would you have handled the situation as scum? sorry for asking hypotheticals, i know they barely give any useful information to work with. but im thinking you could react like this despite your meta because you were attacked so early in the game.

[Not_Mafia]

the pushes are bad because they would have known you better and recognize that your play is actually from your town play, right?

I have trouble with they’re refusal to re-evaluate, yes.

STD, how are my reactions any different here than in that dance game?

And clearly nothing remotely similar to FFIV - which Dwlee was also in?

And NM, where did I demonstrate even an iota of conviction in that Jingle game where I hydra’d with Koba?

~N

I can't answer that sorry, I immediately forget every game I play in the instant it ends

[Gamma Emerald]

It's not about merit, it's that it's a town thought process that we think she is caught for wrong reasons. My point isn't even that we are right here, it's just that gamma calling the push disingenuous is bad

How are you sure it’s a town mindmeld
The progression of it doesn’t feel like what I’d expect out of that sort of thing at all, it was a one-by-one process where one person expressed that feeling and then another

Well I know I'm not scum and the chance STD and HEM are both scum is pretty low

How is the chance of HEM and StD being scum “pretty low”?
It’s not lower than the chance Nancy Sinatra alone is, I’ll tell you that.

[humaneatingmonkey]

gamma this looks like the town game i imagine you always had that you didn't have in the games i played with you previously. either you're on a better place — congratulations — or you're scum? or maybe i'm wrong this is a zero confidence read.

[Nancy Sinatra]

how would you have handled the situation as scum? sorry for asking hypotheticals, i know they barely give any useful information to work with. but im thinking you could react like this despite your meta because you were attacked so early in the game.

I react badly as any alignment except jester but I have been trying to be less reactive in general but it’s actually easier to do that as scum because I hate getting miselmmed more than anything.

So, I’m not going to ever say I would ever be chill for being deathtunnelled for an nai post but have frequently been accused of scumslipping but only as town. Like I’m dyslexic and mix up words frequently, so that’s happened to me more than a few times.

[Roden]

It's not about merit, it's that it's a town thought process that we think she is caught for wrong reasons. My point isn't even that we are right here, it's just that gamma calling the push disingenuous is bad

That doesn't seem to be the basis of the push though, from what I understand that's only your reason for pushing Nancy. NM started the wagon seemingly to just get a reaction out of her. STD didn't like the OMGUS and popcorn. HEM didn't like the olive branch and only later said he mind melded with you, but never made any mention of "caught for the wrong reason" until you brought it up.

That's why I'm saying that it's odd to accuse her of playing different than what you expect while also scum reading her. Either she's scum telling in four different ways and is an abysmal scum player, or she's just a flailing townie reacting strongly to pressure from four different players who are attacking her.

[humaneatingmonkey]

i can confirm i observe nancy's reaction to be off, but couldn't articulate it.