Not Quite Normal Multiball II (Game Over)

[MathBlade]

(That is assuming I survive the night which I am 50/50 on)

[Flavor Leaf]

Mathblade is saying simplest answer is I kill my own partner, not just any partner, Mastina.

In no world is this ever the simplest answer.

The simplest answer is Mastina used her roleblock Night 1 which is consistently getting shoved aside like it’s not possible.

I am Conf town.

Literally to believe I am not Conf town, you have to think that I killed a partner in Mastina, or the wolves killed Mastina even though I had on record I was going to kill them.

Mathblade is actively trying to find every angle to try and somehow stop me from being Conf town.

[Flavor Leaf]

This is a matter of Mathblade wants me to be scum or is scum.

Last town game we played, Mathblade did the exact same thing, refusing to believe I could be town.

And yet, I was town.

[MathBlade]

Mathblade is saying simplest answer is I kill my own partner, not just any partner, Mastina.

In no world is this ever the simplest answer.

The simplest answer is Mastina used her roleblock Night 1 which is consistently getting shoved aside like it’s not possible.

I am Conf town.

Literally to believe I am not Conf town, you have to think that I killed a partner in Mastina, or the wolves killed Mastina even though I had on record I was going to kill them.

Mathblade is actively trying to find every angle to try and somehow stop me from being Conf town.

Correct.

That is the simplest answer much as you attach hyperbole.

The alternative 1-2 additional missing kills from scum.

With the rules explanation from Cephrir that scum only have to have 1 no kill in 123 and 1 no kill in 456, scum gain no strategic advantage no killing twice.

So then if you are a vig, scum both no kill N1.

Then a second no kill on N2 for one or the other teams.

I just don’t buy that.

That’s not simple at all.

You’re trying to paint you calling the shot difficult to avoid being elimmed.

[MathBlade]

If Mastina used her block N1 though you’d be on Klick being scum though which you’re not.

Because I think you know Klick is town or suspect it.

So you don’t want to elim Klick because it proves Mastina blocked me N2
It proves why Enchant doesn’t kill an active town vig

It’s because you’re scum.

You defended Enchant
You didn’t expect him to die

Enchant went off rails and submitted Ydrasse thinking he protected you and that was a genuine answer

You said you’re gonna lurk because you’re defensive.

[Nashville Dreams]

Math, we aren't eliminating FL. He's a wolf problem. Pick someone in my pool.

~Titus

[Flavor Leaf]

I do not fight as hard as I did Day 1/Day 2 as scum this game.

I was also actively fighting against fading TicTac and Toogeloo those days.

Mathblade asks me questions, and doesn’t even wait for me to respond before switching and making a push, choosing times I’m not even that here.

[Flavor Leaf]

If Mastina used her block N1 though you’d be on Klick being scum though which you’re not.

Because I think you know Klick is town or suspect it.

So you don’t want to elim Klick because it proves Mastina blocked me N2
It proves why Enchant doesn’t kill an active town vig

It’s because you’re scum.

You defended Enchant
You didn’t expect him to die

Enchant went off rails and submitted Ydrasse thinking he protected you and that was a genuine answer

You said you’re gonna lurk because you’re defensive.

I slightly defended Enchant on Day 1. And not even more than others. And I stated Enchant scum solves themselves moreso than defending them, so that’s a misrep.


I also don’t have Enchant kill Ydrasse if I were scum with them.

If I were scum, I was in a position to misfade Ydrasse.

[MathBlade]

Math, we aren't eliminating FL. He's a wolf problem. Pick someone in my pool.

~Titus

Your pool is garbage.

I already explained why and you didn’t respond.

Why can’t we elim a powerless player right now?

Supposedly out of shots

No vig kills?

Missing kills from an entire team.

Wolves and mafia are both my problem.

If we leave one mafia by their lonesome we can turn this into a group scum/SK game which dramatically shifts things in our favor.

[MathBlade]

I do not fight as hard as I did Day 1/Day 2 as scum this game.

I was also actively fighting against fading TicTac and Toogeloo those days.

Mathblade asks me questions, and doesn’t even wait for me to respond before switching and making a push, choosing times I’m not even that here.

I am not asking questions to you.

I am employing the Socratic method to get others to see what I do.

Titus is right

You will never say you’re scum

You townread me then when I push you you hint I am scum.

It’s survival.

You know it.

I know it.

So I am posting for others.

[Flavor Leaf]

You keep pushing that lurk card, but everyone in this game wanted me to lurk after Day 1.

I was also actively going for that route because I’m essentially Conf town. You’re just trying to stop that from happening because you have zero clue on how to read me.


This type of play you’ve done these past games with me show anytime that you have correctly scum read me was just luck because you don’t know how to find town Flavor.

[Flavor Leaf]

Where did I say you were scum here? That’s another misrep.

I specifically stated you either want to be right on me being scum or are scum.

So that’s twice you misrepped and twisted things on top of trying to hit every single angle you possibly can without giving the context from where they are coming from.

[MathBlade]

You keep pushing that lurk card, but everyone in this game wanted me to lurk after Day 1.

I was also actively going for that route because I’m essentially Conf town. You’re just trying to stop that from happening because you have zero clue on how to read me.


This type of play you’ve done these past games with me show anytime that you have correctly scum read me was just luck because you don’t know how to find town Flavor.

There’s been one game of town flavor that I have played with recently

That game you led 5 miselims in a row

5.

You were captured town.

This situation is different

Mechanics outed you until and unless you explain why a scum team no kills for three days straight.

[Nashville Dreams]

I already explained why and you didn’t respond.

I'm tired of highlighting the obvious. Game is tired of mechanics. Can you just stop and accept you lost and stop thread bloat? That was Flavor's problem D1 and you're repeating it.

~Titus

[MathBlade]

Where did I say you were scum here? That’s another misrep.

I specifically stated you either want to be right on me being scum or are scum.

So that’s twice you misrepped and twisted things on top of trying to hit every single angle you possibly can without giving the context from where they are coming from.

MathBlade wants me to be scum or is scum << paraphrase of repeated shade.

There’s no misrep. That’s you calling me scum for scumreading you.

Omgus much.

[MathBlade]

I already explained why and you didn’t respond.

I'm tired of highlighting the obvious. Game is tired of mechanics. Can you just stop and accept you lost and stop thread bloat? That was Flavor's problem D1 and you're repeating it.

~Titus

No

I will not.

Not when you’re single handledly trying to nuke town’s protective force.

Anyone but Cass and I might work with you despite the mafia read

But quite frankly the more you defend FL

And the more you do when I make arguments using your rules of scum hunting

The more I think you’re paired

I likely die today

There is no tomorrow unless Meg saves me

So no I fight today for it

Even if I lose and I die

It will be remembered

[MathBlade]

You want me to stop pushing your buddy Titus.

You can’t explain the kills

No one can

It’s fucking obvious FL is mechanically caught it’s only a matter of how long

You can turn on him or die with him.

[Flavor Leaf]

Your push holds so little weight it makes me feel it’s just town wanting to be right and tunneled, but then i start thinking maybe that’s exactly the purpose of it all.

You use bad Mech. You angle shoot. You completely omit any of the possibilities that don’t fit into the narrative you push.


You are trying to push me from the conclusion that I am scum, and going backwards from there when it’s just not likely. I feel there’s probably some part that is just such heavy Flavor Fever that you can’t rid yourself of the sickness of the paranoia that I’m pulling some crazy wild gambit, but that’s not the type of gambit I pull by shooting a partner.

I do not do well as scum without my partners, i rely on them for help on game control. It’s why I like to win with most of mine in tact, so you have to believe that scum gambit was pulled specifically after Enchant had died.

So you have to believe Mastina didn’t think about the outcome thereafter as well.

[Flavor Leaf]

You keep pushing that lurk card, but everyone in this game wanted me to lurk after Day 1.

I was also actively going for that route because I’m essentially Conf town. You’re just trying to stop that from happening because you have zero clue on how to read me.


This type of play you’ve done these past games with me show anytime that you have correctly scum read me was just luck because you don’t know how to find town Flavor.

There’s been one game of town flavor that I have played with recently

That game you led 5 miselims in a row

5.

You were captured town.

This situation is different

Mechanics outed you until and unless you explain why a scum team no kills for three days straight.

This is also a misrep.

I lead exactly one town misfade.

The others I was one of the last ones on the wagons.

I had the strongest reads that game, i just didn’t end up on the wagons by the end of it.

[Flavor Leaf]

You want me to stop pushing your buddy Titus.

You can’t explain the kills

No one can

It’s fucking obvious FL is mechanically caught it’s only a matter of how long

You can turn on him or die with him.

Mastina blocked a wolf kill Night 1.

Mafia shot Catboi.

One of the scum teams shot Butter Night 2.

One of the scum teams shot SPC Night 3.



This is one possibility.

The fact you say it’s unexplainable shows how incorrect your mech is here.

[MathBlade]

This is all social bullshit FL.

None of it explains an entire scum team’s kills missing.

I agree you don’t, but you didn’t have any other options.

All worlds are shity for scum you:

What claim roleblocked? No one will buy that
Claim Mastina protected? No one buys that

It’s the exact same reason I shot Karnos in Shadowrun

I know it because I was you.

You’re trying to pitch the logical as ridiculous.

The answer is scum no killed 2 of 3 nights or you’re scum.

The latter is much more believable in multiball.

[Flavor Leaf]

Your entire case relies on assuming Enchant made a calculated play in the 40 minute time period they had.

[MathBlade]

You want me to stop pushing your buddy Titus.

You can’t explain the kills

No one can

It’s fucking obvious FL is mechanically caught it’s only a matter of how long

You can turn on him or die with him.

Mastina blocked a wolf kill Night 1.

Mafia shot Catboi.

One of the scum teams shot Butter Night 2.

One of the scum teams shot SPC Night 3.



This is one possibility.

The fact you say it’s unexplainable shows how incorrect your mech is here.

It’s not.

In that world you A) push Klick

And B) That’s missing what scum did for one other kill. Even if I assume that a kill N2 is missing

[Flavor Leaf]

This is all social bullshit FL.

None of it explains an entire scum team’s kills missing.

I agree you don’t, but you didn’t have any other options.

All worlds are shity for scum you:

What claim roleblocked? No one will buy that
Claim Mastina protected? No one buys that

It’s the exact same reason I shot Karnos in Shadowrun

I know it because I was you.

You’re trying to pitch the logical as ridiculous.

The answer is scum no killed 2 of 3 nights or you’re scum.

The latter is much more believable in multiball.

K.

Sorry, you’re just flat out wrong. Full stop.

Done with this.

Have fun pushing a Conf townie.

This is probably just you trolling as scum pushing a Conf townie like when I pushed MasonYou.

[Flavor Leaf]

You want me to stop pushing your buddy Titus.

You can’t explain the kills

No one can

It’s fucking obvious FL is mechanically caught it’s only a matter of how long

You can turn on him or die with him.

Mastina blocked a wolf kill Night 1.

Mafia shot Catboi.

One of the scum teams shot Butter Night 2.

One of the scum teams shot SPC Night 3.



This is one possibility.

The fact you say it’s unexplainable shows how incorrect your mech is here.

It’s not.

In that world you A) push Klick

And B) That’s missing what scum did for one other kill. Even if I assume that a kill N2 is missing

No it’s not?

Mafia would have made 1 night 1, wolves night 1

Then night 2 and night 3 was a different one.

You’re just twisting things

A block counts as a kill, you just don’t want that possibility to be true.