Newbie 2095 | Game over

[Alianna]

I'll be honest, I have zero energy to come up with a scumcase right now. Probably wouldn't vote for hutmeil or whiskey today. I just want this day to end, preferably in an elimination.
And yes, I realize this post commits every scumtell in the book. Including self-awareness.

[furtiveglance]

Alianna, current votes aside, who would be your preferred elimination?

[Alianna]

Also, irrelevant, but this is the slowest D1 I have ever endured. It's taken us around 3 days to get near the end of the third page. The other games I've been in reached this point in a matter of hours.

Slight townlean from this post.
I think town is much more frustrated with inactivity than scum. Scum thrives on town apathy.
The frustration feels genuine to me.

79 is just mech talk and speculation, why does Alianna get a townread?

This is unfair. Townread ME even though I don't deserve it. D:<

Agree with furtive here. I don't follow a TR from p79.

Was considering 72 and re-skimmed their ISO, this caught my eye. I like the contradiction here. Townlean for this, I feel like scum would care more about being consistent.

[Alianna]

Alianna, current votes aside, who would be your preferred elimination?

I can't say I'd mind a vote on you, but I'm also a bit paranoid of misreading you again.

[furtiveglance]

That's funny, I was thinking the same about you!

[Alianna]

You know, they do say third time's the charm!

Please don't, though.

[whiskey delta]

If Roden was just scum things would be easier right now

[whiskey delta]

Alianna, do you think everyone on the Roden wagon is Town?

Roden - (whiskey) hutmeil, Greeting, FG, Alianna

[Roden]

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... unting_Kit

I recommend town taking a look at this before deciding to townlock Furtive and Whiskey and lose the game.

[72offsuit]

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... unting_Kit

I recommend town taking a look at this before deciding to townlock Furtive and Whiskey and lose the game.

Ye, reread Furtive's ISO. I'm less confident about them being town.

Furtive's reads list feels so passive and safe.

[72offsuit]

As for whiskey, if he is scum, as i said before im happy to eat my hat

[72offsuit]

16 hours to deadline

[Roden]

People need to start voting.

[the worst]

vote count 1.14

Quacks do echo! There is a misconception that they don't, but this is just due to the sound fading in & out making it diffiuclt to pinpoint the source of a quack's echo!

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Alianna (3): 72offsuit, whiskey delta, furtiveglance
furtiveglance (1): Roden
hutmeil (1): Tidus of the X


Not Voting (4): Malakittens, hutmeil, Greeting, Alianna

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to reach an elimination.

Day one will end in (expired on 2022-06-04 10:00:00)

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Mod notes:

• quack.

[Malakittens]

Ngl I don’t wanna elim alianna.

FG

This just stinks
Bc I really want one of 72 hut & Tidus sorted

I won’t be back before deadline most likely in going to sleep

[whiskey delta]

Leaving for work but I’ll be ~around

[Greeting]

We're running out of time and I've received no answer to 373. I'll have to assume that your reads are capitalising on the fact that

Tidus

' ISO is short and he hasn't contributed much rather than getting to read into his few posts and trying to make out something of them. The most likely answer for that is that

Tidus of the X

is inactive newbie limbait and you wanted to make sure that you can always dig up that read whenever it was convenient for you to do so. And there is not enough time to build a wagon on

Tidus

at this point so the timing for you is bad.

It's easy for scum to go after players like this since you usually cannot count on them effectively defending themselves. That also explains why you're going after

hutmeil

. And in my opinion, someone being less active than most is not a reliable scumtell at all, and is mostly used by opportunistic scumbags to push innocents out.

Now you're desperately trying to get people to jump aboard the

Alianna

wagon, and as much as I am hesitant about

Alianna

, she is not as desperate to get anyone eliminated solely to preserve herself. As a matter of fact, she's quite hesitant to vote at all (428). Which is why I'd rather have her stay and have you go instead.

VOTE: furtiveglance

[furtiveglance]

We're running out of time and I've received no answer to 373. I'll have to assume that your reads are capitalising on the fact that

Tidus

' ISO is short and he hasn't contributed much rather than getting to read into his few posts and trying to make out something of them. The most likely answer for that is that

Tidus of the X

is inactive newbie limbait and you wanted to make sure that you can always dig up that read whenever it was convenient for you to do so. And there is not enough time to build a wagon on

Tidus

at this point so the timing for you is bad.

It's easy for scum to go after players like this since you usually cannot count on them effectively defending themselves. That also explains why you're going after

hutmeil

. And in my opinion, someone being less active than most is not a reliable scumtell at all, and is mostly used by opportunistic scumbags to push innocents out.

Now you're desperately trying to get people to jump aboard the

Alianna

wagon, and as much as I am hesitant about

Alianna

, she is not as desperate to get anyone eliminated solely to preserve herself. As a matter of fact, she's quite hesitant to vote at all (428). Which is why I'd rather have her stay and have you go instead.

VOTE: furtiveglance

Tidus had done pretty much nothing when I made that readslist - so I put him in null. I said in 384 that I liked Tidus' recent posting. I was under the impression that Alianna was your big scumread - 183 for instance. You now townread her for what, doing nothing? Being hesitant to vote isn't towny. This is completely bizarre and illogical. Yes my reads change, so you can probably find me guilty of 'inconsistency', because I'm not saying the same thing throughout the entire game, but I'm constantly sharing my reads, Alianna hasn't been as vocal. If you keep me in the game, there'll be more information and associatives.

[furtiveglance]

Ngl I don’t wanna elim alianna.

FG

This just stinks
Bc I really want one of 72 hut & Tidus sorted

I won’t be back before deadline most likely in going to sleep

Is this a vote? If so, you know you can vote for hutmeil, I might even join you. Your hands aren't tied, you don't have to vote for me.

[Alianna]

Alianna, do you think everyone on the Roden wagon is Town?

Roden - (whiskey) hutmeil, Greeting, FG, Alianna

No, because otherwise there must be 2 scum in Mala/72/Tidus, which I don’t think there is.

[hutmeil]

There's about 1 day to go. I don't like hutmeil's recent posting at all. Alianna isn't really giving me town vibes either.

What don't you like about my post?

It changed. Reads change. I know you think that's scummy, but I'm trying to keep you updated as best I can. I thought hutmeil was newbtown but no longer think so. They aren't talking like a noob, and it unnerves me.

Well I'm both. I'm sort of not newbtown because I have played before. I'm newbtown as well since it's been a long time and am trying to get my feet wet again. Fun fact (if I counted right), both you and Whiskey have voted 5 times each. Not that it means your scum, but certainly is scummy.

At this point, no one has CC'd so Roden is conftown. I didn't meta him (no time for this), but his play throughout the game seems towny to me as time progresses. As for FG, he keeps on trying to bandwagon and create new bandwagons (me and Alianna). I TR Alianna and I know I am Town. My gut feels says you are scum. I'm also keeping my word that once Roden has been conftown that I'm voting for you.

Having said that,

VOTE: Furtive

After quick-reading pages 11-15, I'm inclined to either vote for:

Tidus/72off (lurkers)

or

Furtive (in my scummy list plus being pushed by PR)

Has anyone counter-claimed yet? I haven't checked in detail. Once he's confirmed cop, I'll most probably vote for Furtive since we got more info from him being eliminated than the lurkers.

I find it interesting though that 72off suddenly came to life this past few pages after getting a vote.

Scummy.
Instead of interacting with my posts and the content in them, keeps me lumped in with tidus as a lurker and also actively discouraging town from posting by shading me for being active.

My bad, but I hated that you lurked in the beginning especially that you are an SE. And I'm not shading you for being active - the opposite. I'm shading you for being inactive before. Reason is scum would want to keep out of the limelight by not being so active but active enough to not get called out. At least that's one of the strategies to being scum. So for now, Tidus is the only one in my lurkers list. However, I'm still keeping my eye on you.

[whiskey delta]

@hutmeil - Votes are a tool to gather information and should be used accordingly. If I wanted to play safe and make friends I’d be doing the opposite - food for thought.

I am claiming intent to hammer.

Someone from the Roden wagon needs to be the elim because I agree with Alianna that there isn’t all Town within that group. I don’t feel great either way about this flip but it’s better than nothing. I’ll be back on my lunch break in a bit

[hutmeil]

Votes are a tool to gather information and should be used accordingly.

Exactly. I'm using your voting history and find that you flip a lot. Just an FoS.

[whiskey delta]

“Reason is scum would want to keep out of the limelight by not being so active but active enough to not get called out”

Wasn’t 72 called out for being inactive though? Isn’t that the entire reason they were even considered for elim? Your theory and stance don’t jive.

[whiskey delta]

Votes are a tool to gather information and should be used accordingly.

Exactly. I'm using your voting history and find that you flip a lot. Just an FoS.

Okay so given what I just said and how I have used my vote what do you think that means?

Back to work now. Lunch soon