Newbie 2096 | Nathan For You | Endgame

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Very nervous. In fact, if I could, I would replace out of this game. That's how nervous I am.

My only hope is that you change your mind.

[Vasex]

where should I vote then, to make you feel better?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Rad

[Vasex]

do you know that voting smb only because he scumreads you and also adding the vote to a bigger wagon - this is scummy thing?

[humaneatingmonkey]

Vote Count 1.02

Rad (3):

Spartan, Cheapside, BlueBloodedToffee

BlueBloodedToffee (2):

Vasex, Rad

Vasex (1):

Somnus

Jackal711 (1):

whiskey delta

mq.bosco (1):

Bellaphant

Not Voting (1):

mq.bosco

With 9 alive, it's 5 to eliminate.

Deadline for Day 1 is June 12 at 3:00 AM GMT +8

Deadline Timer:

(expired on 2022-06-12 03:00:00)

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I suppose it depends what you find scummy.

As a counter, I would suggest forming wagons and encouraging participation is a townie thing to do. I would also suggest getting people to use their votes (towns strongest weapon) is also important for later in the game (if you believe VCA is a thing)

[Rad]

Vasex

: meming but active, helped create content. Also townread me rapidly, so definitely town.

Are you joking about "Also townread me rapidly, so definitely town."?

[humaneatingmonkey]

Very nervous.

In fact, if I could, I would replace out of this game.

That's how nervous I am.

My only hope is that you change your mind.

I'm not sure if this breaks the rules. Just don't do more of this. We don't want to get into trouble.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

My bad if it does, again, it's been a while. You can delete if needed Mod.

Also, a little request, would it be possible to get VCs in order of number of votes? Thanks!

omfg

[Spartan117]

Rads #160 & #161 he spends a lot of time defending himself more worried about others opinion on him which is more of a scumtell. I personally didnt like his #91 on the surface it can look townie to try and get engagement from other players but its easy for scum to do when general engagement is low. Posting frequently doesnt indicate town, scum both want to go under the radar but they also want to dictate the conversation and point away from themselves and their partner.

I didn't like the questions trying to get everyone to tell you what time they are available can easily lead to calling someone out when they werent here at the time they had originally said they would be available which could be down to anything irl not just that they are lurking etc.

Additionally asking a generic question to everyone on who has had the most relevant input and least relevant input so far imo is trying to get others to do their scumhunting for them, rather than saying to someone what do you think of this post in question and does it effect your read on them. I just dont like asking who has the least relevant input especially so early on in the game when some people have barely posted it just seems lazy to me.

I'm gonna say this now, I think there is 1 scum between Rad and BlueBloodedToffee but I dont think they are a scumteam. I dont think Rads first move after some pressure is applied to him is to vote his scumpartner.

[Rad]

Vasex not jumping on the wagon for me is super townie. Him doing so could be a funny meme, consistent with his play so far, where he just does what the guy asked him to do, but it puts me in range (4 votes) of being hammered by scum (5 votes). Not worth the laughs.

Top town reads for me right now are Bella and Vasex. The more I'm reading Cheapside the more I lean town, but I have my reservations.

[Vasex]

Vasex

: meming but active, helped create content. Also townread me rapidly, so definitely town.

Are you joking about "Also townread me rapidly, so definitely town."?

yeah that sounds suspicious from cheap...

[Vasex]

guys, dont make 5 votes on anybody too early please

we don't need to end the day so fast

[Vasex]

i almost haven't read it yet because i'm busy in other game, there is some action in the late game and i'm thinking only about it, but it will end soon (maybe today)

[Spartan117]

Rad

Are you trying to get Vasex to put Rad to

E-1

so your scumbuddy can quickhammer him on accident?

Also your reasoning on scumreading him for your vote is very watery in 168

[Spartan117]

Vasex

: meming but active, helped create content. Also townread me rapidly, so definitely town.

Are you joking about "Also townread me rapidly, so definitely town."?

yeah that sounds suspicious from cheap...

Referring to your 150 was it enough to change your opinion of cheapside potentially see a scum team of Cheapside and BlueBloodedToffee?

[Rad]

Rads #160 & #161 he spends a lot of time defending himself more worried about others opinion on him which is more of a scumtell. I personally didnt like his #91 on the surface it can look townie to try and get engagement from other players but its easy for scum to do when general engagement is low. Posting frequently doesnt indicate town, scum both want to go under the radar but they also want to dictate the conversation and point away from themselves and their partner.

I didn't like the questions trying to get everyone to tell you what time they are available can easily lead to calling someone out when they werent here at the time they had originally said they would be available which could be down to anything irl not just that they are lurking etc.

Additionally asking a generic question to everyone on who has had the most relevant input and least relevant input so far imo is trying to get others to do their scumhunting for them, rather than saying to someone what do you think of this post in question and does it effect your read on them. I just dont like asking who has the least relevant input especially so early on in the game when some people have barely posted it just seems lazy to me.

I'm gonna say this now, I think there is 1 scum between Rad and BlueBloodedToffee but I dont think they are a scumteam. I dont think Rads first move after some pressure is applied to him is to vote his scumpartner.

Defending oneself isn't a scum tell. Both town and scum can do that. I think the content of my defense is more important than the fact that I'm defending myself. Your call on the quality of that content but I'm happy with it.

My questions from before were to try to create relevant content. As town you want to get people talking and sharing opinions so you have content to look at then and later in the game. Consistency in your opinions as scum is really difficult because it's not a real opinion, it's manufactured, so getting people to share opinions is important.

I do like how you're at least opening analyzing my posts. You're creating opinions that can be referenced later and inconsistencies in the way you think could be a scum tell. That's really risky as scum.

[Rad]

openly* analyzing

[Spartan117]

do you know that voting smb only because he scumreads you and also adding the vote to a bigger wagon - this is scummy thing?

It's very OMGUS isn't it.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Vasex not jumping on the wagon for me is super townie.

This is wrong but probably makes you town.

UNVOTE:

[Rad]

Vasex not jumping on the wagon for me is super townie.

This is wrong but probably makes you town.

UNVOTE:

No, it's correct, because vasex doesn't have a scum read on me. If he had a scum read on me, sure, he should have felt free to jump on that wagon. Wagons are fine when there's a reason. The one on me got dangerous with your vote which had no good reason for it, and would have been an easy setup if vasex had played along.

Thank you for the unvote though.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Right, Vasex doesn't have a scum read on you. So, if he joins the wagon and puts you at L-1 it's super dangerous for a number of reasons:

Should your wagon go through, his votes looks likely to be worst (outside of a lol hammer)

Scum don't like to be on wagons without good reason because that's usually where everybody will look first. So a dangerous vote, without good reason, is not something scum would take lightly. Especially not Day One.

Your thought process on that probably makes you town though as I said. I don't see scum!Rad applying that tactic as an appeasement to Town! Vasex not to vote.

[Spartan117]

Rads #160 & #161 he spends a lot of time defending himself more worried about others opinion on him which is more of a scumtell. I personally didnt like his #91 on the surface it can look townie to try and get engagement from other players but its easy for scum to do when general engagement is low. Posting frequently doesnt indicate town, scum both want to go under the radar but they also want to dictate the conversation and point away from themselves and their partner.

I didn't like the questions trying to get everyone to tell you what time they are available can easily lead to calling someone out when they werent here at the time they had originally said they would be available which could be down to anything irl not just that they are lurking etc.

Additionally asking a generic question to everyone on who has had the most relevant input and least relevant input so far imo is trying to get others to do their scumhunting for them, rather than saying to someone what do you think of this post in question and does it effect your read on them. I just dont like asking who has the least relevant input especially so early on in the game when some people have barely posted it just seems lazy to me.

I'm gonna say this now, I think there is 1 scum between Rad and BlueBloodedToffee but I dont think they are a scumteam. I dont think Rads first move after some pressure is applied to him is to vote his scumpartner.

Defending oneself isn't a scum tell. Both town and scum can do that. I think the content of my defense is more important than the fact that I'm defending myself. Your call on the quality of that content but I'm happy with it.

My questions from before were to try to create relevant content. As town you want to get people talking and sharing opinions so you have content to look at then and later in the game. Consistency in your opinions as scum is really difficult because it's not a real opinion, it's manufactured, so getting people to share opinions is important.

I do like how you're at least opening analyzing my posts. You're creating opinions that can be referenced later and inconsistencies in the way you think could be a scum tell. That's really risky as scum.

I agree defending yourself isnt inherently a scumtell but being more concerned about what others think of you and not of your reads is. I agree I think the content is the most important as after a flip for the Day 1 elim and Night 1 night kill thats what is looked at as we know the alignment of them players.

I agree you want to get people talking and sharing opinions but scum find it harder to form and change opinions, its much easier to just lock in a read and tunnel as scum than actually change opinion and re-read everybody.

As town its important we are risky and have an open mind although not to the point we let others influence us and change it for us. Scum dont want to be risky, they want to play it safe if they can and get by on the reads of others as they already know everyones alignment.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

VOTE: msq

[Bellaphant]

If someone with more town cred than myself could explain why, I would be eternally grateful.

Can you expand more on this? Why do you think you don't have town cred? I've really not likes the page from you.