Newbie 2096 | Nathan For You | Endgame

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This EXACT style of note-taking every little thing is what I did in my first game on-site as scum and it got me hardcore town-read. Never had a vote on me the entire game. Pull up my ISO from Newbie 2087 and take a brief look, particularly Days 1 and 2. Something to consider.

bravo

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Quick temporary reads:

Town: Spartan, BlueBlooded
Null: Whiskey, Bella, Bosco, Vasex
Scum: Rad, Cheapside

bbt is a scum

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Alright, I'm reasonably happy with my town reads on Rad and Cheap. I think Bella and maybe Whiskey can be town, too.

see? bbt is a scum

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Alright Bella, I don't understand the progression on Somnus and you didn't respond to my accusation of you trying to prolong RVS but I also don't want to get into it because I think you're probably town and I'm happy for us to lynch Spartan.

You're happy to eliminate someone who has made 7 posts? how very townie of you?

Your votes seem to shift like the wind in a hurricane, I'm not even certain if you yourself know where your next move will be?

Yeah, I get that.

Usually, you get better content from people when they are more likely to feel under pressure to produce something.

Be brave.

I like that you understand the need to apply pressure with votes to get people to produce content which is pretty standard but I don't feel like when you vote you come with any gumption it always seems pretty week and often sheeping on the back of a wagon without any originality of your own.

Mod, can we get a VC on next page please?

You asked our mod here for a Vote count total which you got in (so you cant claim to not know of the vote tally) 179 then after Cheapside voted me with a breakdown of his reasoning in 211
We see Rad vote Bella in 214 and then ask cheapside to change their vote from me to Bella in 220 which while I didn't like I could imagine Bella getting worried about a train forming on her and before Cheapside is able to respond to Rad she votes me with her reasoning being she doesnt get town pings and that my scum read of BBT comes out of nowhere not taking into account it was my second post on the forum. Surely for my scum read to come out of nowhere I would have needed to had frequently posted before and interacted with BBT and my stance on him to suddenly change without any explanation?

he seemed to think there were at least 3 slots scum reading him.

Those three scum reads kinda come out of nowhere too.

Well, vasex's doesn't, but Spartans really seems to.

I then thought it was very interesting that after Bella votes me to build a wagon and get the attention off her, like clockwork BBT jumps on the wagon putting me to E-1 with his post below, baring in mind he had asked for a vote count and waited till cheapside and bella had voted to jump on with again no reasoning, if it was to apply pressure to get someone moving etc fair enough but this is an E-1 post without announcing it hoping someone joins the wagon and accidentily hammers me...

VOTE: Spartan

Will provide more soon. Glad to see the game is picking up, from a brief skim it looks like everybody is contributing now. Makes the game a lot easier

master chief, you are the best

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Alright, I'm reasonably happy with my town reads on Rad and Cheap. I think Bella and maybe Whiskey can be town, too.

see? bbt is a scum

he is townreading your scummy rad
i think they are both scums

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I did miss that I put Spartan at e-2, no regrets though

I didn't like your approach to bbt, then I didn't like your catch up, now I really don't like your storytelling. After your catch up it was just you were the least town of the active posters, but your response has been really suspect. Scum want to control the narrative of the game, which is what that post did In spades

daaam what are u talking about...

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not wise penguin anymore

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I tend to announce e-2 in newbies. I was surprised you were e-1 after bbts vote.

...so who is bbt? scum?

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to addition to everything else he tried to speed elim the first day for god's sake, sheeping the vote of his scummy bella

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IS IT NOT A SCUM BBT?

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Noooooo Whiskey, why unvote?

btw wd is town lean after that (i have less doubts now)

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Would easily be able to say that Cheapside has provided much more content in their 6 posts than you have in 55 actually...

+

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BTW SPARTAN DIDN"T CLAIM ANY PR, SO HE IS TOWN NOW
SCUMS CLAIM PRS, GETTING TO THE E-1

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Scum wouldn't be this blatant, right? They wouldn't both pile on at the same time, and re use the literal same words.


Right?

Rad and who? I dont get it

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185 Rad, can you expand on your reservations regarding Cheap, please?

At that stage, I had a couple issues with him

38 claiming vasex is obviously town. No way. No one's obviously town that quickly. But as scum, you already know who's town, so a scum!Cheap knows that town!Vasex is being a goofball town and it's easy to think that this AI is obvious to everyone else as well. If Cheap is scum, this comment about vasex is actually a scum slip IMO.

But, Cheap could still be town there thinking goofball vasex is town. I mean, that's how I was viewing vasex at that stage (as a goofball town), but i try to stop myself from believing too much in my initial thoughts, no matter how much they make sense to me. He clearly didn't do that and read vasex as town hard enough that he wanted to announce it to everyone.

Second, his 69 just sort of summarized what somnus was doing at a stage where basically the only thing that had happened was somnus stuff. It just hit me like... Ok, thanks for the summary of what everyone should already know!

Then in 156 he spells out his reads. Couldn't tell if this was town being useful or scum trying to look useful. I think him dropping the somnus vote like he did was questionable. Also his vote on me felt like weak reasoning and I'm sure I got a little OMGUS on him lol. ALSO at that stage I was very anti-BBT and he was throwing shade on Italiano while simultaneously hyping you (BBT) up as a strong vet that won't be easy to read D1 (giving you a D1 pass essentially). Felt kinda scum-teamy to me given I was seeing you as scum.

So yeah I had a town read on him but wanted to keep an eye on how his input progressed throughout the game.

well maybe scums not bbt and rad, but bbt and cheap, but... meh...

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....I like bbt better when they are talking to me and rad better when they are not.

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My main concern with him has to do with his unwavering defense of mq for no clear reason.

she provided position with scum bbt
prove she is wrong firstly to judge her

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Why state the obvious?

am i a doctor and do i know that there are no noobs among newbies and SE who will end the day immidiately, leaving the town with no info at all?

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my experience tells me to repeat and repeat obvious things to people i dont know at least

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guys, you are awesome, im starting to read about russian hackers here
maybe again from page one
i almost forgot first impressions, but this is ok

im not sure that bosco will return, she is dissappeared not only from this game

ha ha, i was afraid that i need to read 3 pages more, but this is just vasex came to the thread

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I was hoping to get some analysis in, but frankly I do not have time right now, given the over a hundred(!!! ) posts since I last looked in. Please don't rapidly hammer anyone, there's useful time left in the day. UNVOTE:

i like how it's too late to post smth like that

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I'm starting to suspect you have no sense of humour.

LMAO

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Vasex: Right now, I have no desire to eliminate mq. They haven't failed to satisfy me yet, because there's still time in D1. Provided we don't get a dumb wagon, there's six days left. But if someone gives us as little information as mq.bosco has done, we elim them. This isn't how I'm looking for scum, it's just a policy. Townhunting first, with this many people and differing playstyles, isn't going to work well enough, as we'll always find reasons enough to mistrust the people actually posting. We can't rely on having the necessary power rules to give us mechanical information on her in this setup. So if we allow it, she can and will lurk to victory if scum.

i bet she will be replaced soon

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Nope. never met the guy before this game

i mixed up you with bbt there, but is doesnt matter already

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I'm going to sleep
My fast list is smth like that:

TOWNS: Somnus, Spartan
town lean: WD, bosco, Bella
null: Cheap
scum lean: Rad
SCUM: BBT

TOWNS and SCUM are solid
the other ones can be changed easily i guess (or maybe not)

well, i think i'm done everything for today here

maybe my case about Rad is not so strong, i will reconsider it and i skipped some of his bigposts (not only his). see you folks