Newbie 2096 | Nathan For You | Endgame

[whiskey delta]

my experience tells me to repeat and repeat obvious things to people i dont know at least

That’s fair. I guess the newbie part of the newbie queue went over my head. I don’t feel as if there are any newbs here. Just maybe some rusty old timers

I feel where Cheap is coming from and hope they can get back into the game soon, but I personally didn’t hate watching your catch-up in real-time. That style reminds me of others I have played with in the past so it’s sort of helpful to me, I think. I agree with you about Bella but less about Rad/BBT. Also not sold on Town!Somnus yet. Not convinced of scum!Spartan either to be fair.

I was sketched out by your read on bosco earlier but I have liked how you carried that. I concede you were catching heat for it (beginning to maybe) so you couldn’t just keep it forever but this turn feels appropriate

[Vasex]

Not convinced of scum!Spartan either to be fair.

town spartan

[Vasex]

today we need to elim bbt
this is 100%

[whiskey delta]

Not convinced of scum!Spartan either to be fair.

town spartan

Town spartan you
Scum spartan me

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Vasex]

he didnt claim pr, while he was on e-1
it means he is not a scum
logics

[Vasex]

or you are his partner, who saved him from doing that, do you like this theory? im not

[whiskey delta]

Hmm maybe. I don't think the risk of a hammer was ever actually real - I have seriously never seen this speed hammer everyone is afraid happen - but maybe. Scum claiming a PR though, I do agree about that.

Bella
Rad
Vasex?
Spartan?

means there is 2 scum in BBT, Somnus, bosco, & Cheapside.

VOTE: Cheapside

[Vasex]

Newbie 2096 | Nathan For You

Day 1

Player List

1. mq.bosco
   
   
2. Vasex
   
   
3. Cheapside
   
   
4. Somnus
   
   
5. Rad
   
   
6. whiskey delta
   
   
7. Jackal711 (SE)
   
8. ItalianoVD (SE)
   
   
9. Bellaphant (SE)

(bold indicates confirmation, asterisks indicate prods)

Spoiler: Flips

No flips yet.

Events:
Day 1 Start

A fantastic idea.

The only flaw is waiting to use your vote.

Look at this post
I think it was made for mafia PT
He suggests his partner to vote Jackal711
And look how BBT was stressed after posting that in our thread for all

Umm, I don't know how that happened. I really need to stop phone posting and do this on my laptop.

and then he has interesting conversation with Rad, though it can be just my paranoia.
p.s. dont forget that i thought they are both scums earlier, when they were voting each other with weird behaviour all over there, and weird reasons to find each other townie after that. it was right before this post

[Vasex]

what's wrong with voting bbt, if you are agree with me about spartan? he put him on E-1 with his vote, voting immidiately after bella, who was suspicious to him few posts ago
logics

I go to sleep

[whiskey delta]

BBT objectively ~bad but for now I like the guy who says they want to make reads and scum hunt but talks about policy eliminations instead

[Rad]

I don't think vasex is being very pro-town with his 4 pages of spam, but it also doesn't seem like a great scum move to so obviously muddy up the conversation.

I'm just going to go back 5 pages and see if I can get some new reads on Spartan and whiskey. Or if cheap responded somewhere in there, I'll check it out. Also I think I noticed a couple vasex posts I want to respond to but finding them will be frustrating, so we'll see.

[Rad]

Done looking at Whiskey. I'll spare everyone my post list summary since people seem to not like that, but I'll keep it handy if someone wants to see it.

Totally on board with a town!Whiskey now. To summarize, his play feels super organic and I have no problem following his thought processes. I think he could do more scum hunting / pressuring but he does make his reads clear and explains why he has them.

[Somnus]

Newbie 2096 | Nathan For You

Day 1

Player List

1. mq.bosco
   
   
2. Vasex
   
   
3. Cheapside
   
   
4. Somnus
   
   
5. Rad
   
   
6. whiskey delta
   
   
7. Jackal711 (SE)
   
8. ItalianoVD (SE)
   
   
9. Bellaphant (SE)

(bold indicates confirmation, asterisks indicate prods)

Spoiler: Flips

No flips yet.

Events:
Day 1 Start

A fantastic idea.

The only flaw is waiting to use your vote.

Look at this post
I think it was made for mafia PT
He suggests his partner to vote Jackal711
And look how BBT was stressed after posting that in our thread for all

Umm, I don't know how that happened. I really need to stop phone posting and do this on my laptop.

and then he has interesting conversation with Rad, though it can be just my paranoia.
p.s. dont forget that i thought they are both scums earlier, when they were voting each other with weird behaviour all over there, and weird reasons to find each other townie after that. it was right before this post

This is the post of the game if true, and there wouldn't even be a close 2nd place. However, replace "He suggests his partner to vote Jackal711" with "He suggests his partner to vote Bella" OR literally anyone in this hypothetical. The point being to just use your vote.

Even if this theory ends up being completely incorrect, this is a good find. I'm kind of going over the details of what happened right before this, but especially right after.

[Rad]

I held off on my Whiskey post analysis, but I think Spartan is required here.

Spoiler: Spartan Analysis

#137 - hello post, gives a townie read on vasex but not directly, justifies vasex's play with theory
#154 - More theory, but good theory. Pushes for activity. Town read on Somnus, Vasex, Cheap. Vote on me. Overall a very juicy post with a lot of openness.
#184 - He's right, it's easy for scum to call for activity, which I did. However, town can also do that, so it's a tricky read. Me trying to get some commitment to time people will be posting COULD be used as a scum gotcha in the future, so it's reasonable for him to read my move like that. He thinks I'm trying to get others to scumhunt for me but no, that wasn't my intention. However, reasonable read from him. Makes a claim that me and BBT aren't a scum team.
#189 - quick hammer scenario suggested. I'm leaning towards quick hammer not being a big issue like whiskey suggests. But maybe he's experienced it before and it's a legit town based issue for him. I have no experienced this because back in the day we did not have hammer votes, we had end of day votes.
#193 - points out that BBT's vote on me was OMGUS. maybe he's town and thinks that matters, maybe he's scum and wants to push some shade. null
#197 - good technical town comments here, doesn't mean he's town, just means he understands town. null
#260 - nothing
#266 - Pushes that we have lots of time day 1. I read that townie. Wants to see lurker input, which matches my thoughts. Explains his position on me. Pressures Cheap for some more info. Says he will analyse Bella further (DID HE???)
#267 - Thinks I'm defending him. I'm not, and I explained why. Could be town not quite understanding my move here.
#268 - Pressures BBT with a comment
#273 - More pressure on BBT, starting to ramp up that pressure. Quite a run-on-sentence that's hard to follow here, but I think I get it... ends up feeling organic, like whiskey.
#279 - I don't understand what he's saying with his list here. He votes BBT.
#282 - responding to Bella, reasonable response
#287 - This is an interesting take on BBT. Is it an enlightened townie take or a scum take that has the advantage of knowing BBT is town?
#289 - Strong response to Bella, makes some good points IMO
#294 - Attack/defense against BBT. Poses an interesting but not totally useful question. But kinda potentially useful... I dunno
#295 - The "Bella noticed something suspicious" post where he points out a similar observation that I did previously. Looking at it more contextually, it was really an add-on to #294. Not only does it mimic my earlier point, but it feels emotionally like my original point. This one is hard to read.
#296 - nothing
[ I NEED TO REREAD THE FOLLOWING, I'M GETTING TIRED AND WANT TO POST BUT ALSO WANT TO SLEEP ]
#300 - Just reinforcing his BBT scum read with a convo with Bella.
#302 - dunno
#306 - anti-BBT
#307 - anti-BBT
#312 - anti-BBT
#318 - fuck it will read later

LOL I'm going to pull a Somnus and say Spartan's play here feels like my better scum play from 8 years ago. That said, fuck it, I'm actually convinced by it and it feels legit. It feels organic, Spartan's emotions seem to be kicking in in a townie sort of timing. He's putting in some serious effort into his reads and makes them publically available.

At this point, I'm not going to be voting Spartan D1. My scum read on him is gone. He's null leaning town. I don't think his reads are great as I still have a town leaning read on BBT.

Good night.

[Rad]

Newbie 2096 | Nathan For You

Day 1

Player List

1. mq.bosco
   
   
2. Vasex
   
   
3. Cheapside
   
   
4. Somnus
   
   
5. Rad
   
   
6. whiskey delta
   
   
7. Jackal711 (SE)
   
8. ItalianoVD (SE)
   
   
9. Bellaphant (SE)

(bold indicates confirmation, asterisks indicate prods)

Spoiler: Flips

No flips yet.

Events:
Day 1 Start

A fantastic idea.

The only flaw is waiting to use your vote.

Look at this post
I think it was made for mafia PT
He suggests his partner to vote Jackal711
And look how BBT was stressed after posting that in our thread for all

Umm, I don't know how that happened. I really need to stop phone posting and do this on my laptop.

and then he has interesting conversation with Rad, though it can be just my paranoia.
p.s. dont forget that i thought they are both scums earlier, when they were voting each other with weird behaviour all over there, and weird reasons to find each other townie after that. it was right before this post

This is the post of the game if true, and there wouldn't even be a close 2nd place. However, replace "He suggests his partner to vote Jackal711" with "He suggests his partner to vote Bella" OR literally anyone in this hypothetical. The point being to just use your vote.

Even if this theory ends up being completely incorrect, this is a good find. I'm kind of going over the details of what happened right before this, but especially right after.

LOL this is actually a dogshit find. BBT made a tech error clicking the wrong thing on his phone. You'll see at end of game that's what happened XD The idea that it's a scum slip is absolutely absurd and makes me facepalm all over Vasex's post. It sort of gives me a townie read on Vasex though, that he would come up with something so ridiculous.

[Somnus]

Dat timing tho.

VOTE: Rad

[Rad]

Eat me Somnus. It's bed time Check my past day. The timing is great.

I can't wait to analyze you tomorrow.

[Somnus]

Childish, regardless of alignment or what you think my alignment is.

[Rad]

Yeah I'm a drunk 41 y/old. Suck it Dat timing.

[Somnus]

I'm ready to park my vote here for Day 1 on policy alone. Mafia games get heated, but this kind of behavior is just gross.

[Rad]

"Eat me" was really that offensive to you eh? I thought it was a funny way to respond tbh.

Well, claiming that my timing had anything to do with the content of my post pissed me off. So you got a "suck it" In response.

Trust me when I say I'm filtering myself intensely.

[Somnus]

I'm sorry that you're that rattled. My vote will remain here the rest of Day 1. Sober up and sleep well.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Vasex's reads are extremely rigid.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Vasex's reads are extremely rigid

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Dat timing tho.

VOTE: Rad

What?