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[Venus and Mars]

STD what do you think of your town block mindmeld doing absolutely nothing to help or defend you

i feel like dwlee is naturally quiet and N_M is pushing in a way i'd expect N_M to push

i dunno. dwlee taking on nancy and wking me barely seems weird for scum to do on paper i mean why not just pile on unless there's already 2 scums on me and dwlee wants to be different

i think N_M is town?

@Roden. I disagree with this. NM has defended STD and when pressure on my slot dwindled, he started up the harassment again and it is harassment because I feel extremely scared I will lose it on him and get another ban. so it’s actually cruel what he’s doing to me at this point. No one should feel terrified that another player is upsetting them to the extent, they’re seriously worried about getting banned.

Just ignore NM then. If you don't think his push has any substance and it's just to bait a bad reaction out of you then stop responding.

I don't think NM is doing much to defend him, even STD doesn't seem to recall it. So if he did then not even STD took notice.

It’s actually hurtful to me what he’s doing and I’m not sure I can ignore it short of FoEing his posts.

He did defend him, I’ll look up the post.

[Venus and Mars]

In an case, I know how you can react as town, it's not about that for me

What is it about then?

Your RVS posting and read on HEM

#EverythingIsAI
you selfvoted in RVS and made a snap read based on an allergy.
Pretty scummy imo.

STD may or may not be scum but Roden and Nancy's pushes on him are dreadful.

Okay, maybe not much of a defence but why were they “dreadful”?

[Save The Dragons]

Trying to be sensitive because I'm not trying to argue but I think NM has done a lot more attacking Nancy than defending me. It really doesn't feel like NM is defending me on an emotional level I feel like an island

But V and M are right that NM did defend me at some point

[Save The Dragons]

@roden I would say the POE you've described with kitty is accurate with the caviat that I've given facebones 0 thought

[Roden]

Ehhhh I kinda see it

PE: Yeah I looked up Face in your ISO and didn't see any mentions. I'm just assuming PoE just from the fact you have no take on him yet.

[humaneatingmonkey]

i have no grasp of this game right now.

[Venus and Mars]

UNVOTE:

I’m going to unvote for now.

<3. Anyway thank you STD for your sensitivity to me, it really means a lot.

[humaneatingmonkey]

can someone summarize the gamestate i feel the need to be re-oriented

[Roden]

I only played with Face once, it was in a Newbie and he was town. General lack of activity and presence matches up with what I remember of him. I don't have much of an opinion on him besides that.

[Venus and Mars]

VOTE: NM

I was in a game with town!NM where he wrongly sr me for deathtunnelling him but he never once did what he’s been doing to me here.

[Roden]

can someone summarize the gamestate i feel the need to be re-oriented

Team Nancy vs Team STD is at a standstill. Personally I don't feel like scum are doing much right now but idk.

Momentum seems to be shifting towards voting out a lurker but it would be really low info if the one we elim flips town. We'd just be in the same spot again tomorrow in that case.

[Roden]

I think I want to let Shiro catch up and give some takes first before I do anything else

[Venus and Mars]

VOTE: NM

I was in a game with town!NM where he wrongly sr me for deathtunnelling him but he never once did what he’s been doing to me here.

He did tunnel but with pretty decent reasoning (albeit wrong), which he actually bothered to explain.

And I’m also slightly paranoid that no one is actually hard defending STD.

[Venus and Mars]

can someone summarize the gamestate i feel the need to be re-oriented

Team Nancy vs Team STD is at a standstill. Personally I don't feel like scum are doing much right now but idk.

Momentum seems to be shifting towards voting out a lurker but it would be really low info if the one we elim flips town. We'd just be in the same spot again tomorrow in that case.

Gth, I think Kitty is probably lhf town. Yet another reason I think NM could be scum here. If he is legit convinced my slot is scum, why push Kitty?

[Venus and Mars]

I think I want to let Shiro catch up and give some takes first before I do anything else

He told me in our discord, he will probably post tomorrow (which would now be today).

[humaneatingmonkey]

VOTE: Not_Mafia

[Venus and Mars]

Hello Venus and Mars, how does it feel to replace into a scum slot?

The reason that this post’s purpose is nothing other than straight up provocation is because it’s not an actual replace out. If V & M were a genuine replace in following my actual replace out, it wouldn’t actually be a nasty post but because he knows it’s still me playing, he made that post to deliberately upset me and for no other reason.

[Enchant]

Hello Venus and Mars, how does it feel to replace into a scum slot?

The reason that this post’s purpose is nothing other than straight up provocation is because it’s not an actual replace out. If V & M were a genuine replace in following my actual replace out, it wouldn’t actually be a nasty post but because he knows it’s still me playing, he made that post to deliberately upset me and for no other reason.

Doesh't it aimed at Shiro.

[Flea The Magician]

As for StD, I'm attempting to sort him and see what stands where. I don't like the KT wagon coming out of nowhere as a counter.

Yeah people see that I am lurking for personal reasons and try to use it as leverage. Honestly kinda gross.

I get this, we're having a pain flare currently and it looks like its big meds time meaning I'm probably going to need to call V/LA at some point. This almost always leads to me getting pushed.

[Flea The Magician]

i feel like dwlee is naturally quiet and N_M is pushing in a way i'd expect N_M to push

i dunno. dwlee taking on nancy and wking me barely seems weird for scum to do on paper i mean why not just pile on unless there's already 2 scums on me and dwlee wants to be different

i think N_M is town?

So if you were to place dwlee in scum or town rn, where would it be?

[Flea The Magician]

STD what do you think of your town block mindmeld doing absolutely nothing to help or defend you

i feel like dwlee is naturally quiet and N_M is pushing in a way i'd expect N_M to push

i dunno. dwlee taking on nancy and wking me barely seems weird for scum to do on paper i mean why not just pile on unless there's already 2 scums on me and dwlee wants to be different

i think N_M is town?

@Roden. I disagree with this. NM has defended STD and when pressure on my slot dwindled, he started up the harassment again and it is harassment because I feel extremely scared I will lose it on him and get another ban. so it’s actually cruel what he’s doing to me at this point. No one should feel terrified that another player is upsetting them to the extent, they’re seriously worried about getting banned.

Just ignore NM then. If you don't think his push has any substance and it's just to bait a bad reaction out of you then stop responding.

I don't think NM is doing much to defend him, even STD doesn't seem to recall it. So if he did then not even STD took notice.

Easier said than done, but I can fully see where Nancy is coming from here.
NM is just being NM and locktunneled. This is why I said NM is neg town.

[Flea The Magician]

can someone summarize the gamestate i feel the need to be re-oriented

We have NM in deathtunnel
V&M essentially disabled at the moment because of said deathtunnel.
I'm trying to solve StD
StD seems to be blanket efforting.

Dwlee, KT, FB and Gamma are essentially absent still, Enchant is Enchant - never here.
Gamma needing to be checked over as there's content but it's not been enough for me to passively form a read as we've gone.

Roden appears to be making decent efforts.

[Enchant]

If you can call lying a effort then yes, Roden does.

[Not_Mafia]

nancy sinatra is being replaced by venus and mars, a hydra of nd39 & shiro

I didn't realise "nd39" here was Nancy and thought it was a hydra of two entirely new people subbing in. I still think Nancy is scum but will back off for a bit.

VOTE: KittyTacky

Trying to make it seem like he's being scumread for lurking when it's his weaksauce pop-ins

[KittyTacky]

He was rolling she eyes at you I think.

im aware

Which one?

As for StD, I'm attempting to sort him and see what stands where. I don't like the KT wagon coming out of nowhere as a counter.

Yeah people see that I am lurking for personal reasons and try to use it as leverage. Honestly kinda gross.

i dont doubt that you were sick/busy and that caused you not to post. it was never about that for me and i don't think it's gross to vote you for not having reads

I have reads, but why would I not push my biggest scumread consistently? You're trying to get me to deflect.