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[humaneatingmonkey]

also if fae really believed flashwagons can happen, why not go for n_m right now who fae believed to be scum all day rather than go for hem who fae has no interest in seeing get elimmed at end of day?

[humaneatingmonkey]

let's go for flea guys. if im right, ill be very graceful. if im wrong, ill shut up for the rest of the game.

[humaneatingmonkey]

fae has been calling you scum too, but never voted that way. instead going on and off on N_M because it's a non-controversial position to take (N_M is anti-town, you guys!)

to expound on this. i think it's interesting that flea takes the first opportunity to dump faer vote on my slot (even though fae doesn't believe fae can push me before eod!) because i "scumclaimed". it's a pattern of taking the low-risk votes despite presenting a pov where their votes could provide more weight according to the reads they present.

[humaneatingmonkey]

guys. im right. please.

[Save The Dragons]

Why doesn't fae scum just toss faer lot with the people piling on me and vote me

[humaneatingmonkey]

thats why i believe you have partner equity. if not, fae has also been pocketing you or distancing from a town wagon. WHY NOT vote you when they scumread you? the reads and the votes should match, and they do not.

[Save The Dragons]

Why does scum fae pocket me when it looked like I was going down

[humaneatingmonkey]

distancing from a town wagon. answer the question: WHY NOT? why does faer reads and votes do not match? what has fae been avoiding? if fae thought you were scum, what has fae not voted you?

but also... were you also going down? were you really?

like i said, this is also why i think you have partner equity.

please address my other points as well.

[Save The Dragons]

I can't answer partner equity it's incorrect but I see why you see it.

Flea could have made it about me if fae wanted. I guess fae could have distanced from a town wagon but I don't understand why because fae put points against me and could have easily jumped on me. I can't really get over that

[humaneatingmonkey]

if you're town, it's to push you and to pocket you at the same time. it worked, you're blind to my other points and you won't address them.
if you're scum, it's okay nothing personal

[Save The Dragons]

What points have I missed

[humaneatingmonkey]

here are points you need to address:
1. voting behavior wrt n_m
2. voting behavior wrt me
3. incongruency of reads and votes

[humaneatingmonkey]

you only reitrated your point in your recent posts, i guarantee you i heard them but i also offered a counter to them that make sense and you barely want to hear it.

[Save The Dragons]

1. voting behavior wrt n_m

I think voting NM on policy and then unvoting when fae found out was close is weird. Could be partner equity. But then fae votes for NM for a long time based on vibes and how strong and hard NM is coming for Nancy.

I don't think it really is telling and I think flea did believe in the vote the second time because I think I see what flea is saying

[humaneatingmonkey]

yes so why vote me now if they really believed it? why not push for n_m? it's a viable wagon. take note that fae didn't really believe fae can push for my elim, so going for me is a very notable vote which fae was only open to do because i "scumclaimed"

[humaneatingmonkey]

so is there a pattern that fae is voting for policy? fae has scumreads, but fae won't vote them and instead goes for policy votes that fae doesn't believe fae can push?

come on std

[Save The Dragons]

2. voting behavior wrt me

I've already said this feels like fleas normal behavior. I'll expand. Flea seems to have fallen for your "trap" but I think it's NAI I think flea is always going to get caught regardless of alignment. This is a judgement I'm making.

[humaneatingmonkey]

fae has scumreads and fae won't vote them and instead votes for slots fae doesn't believe would be dead at the end of the day.

and somehow this is town to you.

[Save The Dragons]

3. incongruency of reads and votes

Just out of curiosity why does that not apply to gamma?

I don't know how true this is. I think I understand fleas read on NM. I think voting you is because flea doesn't like that you claimed scum. I guess I don't know what the inconguency is because it looks like flea was actually trying to sort me

[humaneatingmonkey]

so what if it applies to gamma? dont wanna think about that right now. i want to talk about flea and articulating how scummy fae is.

std, flea's vote on you wouldn't have nailed you to the cross. it would have given you pressure and would have made fae's vote useful — which is the true town behavior and that fae neglects to do.

address #1240 and 1242

[Save The Dragons]

so is there a pattern that fae is voting for policy? fae has scumreads, but fae won't vote them and instead goes for policy votes that fae doesn't believe fae can push?

come on std

I dunno if flea has a pattern of voting for policy but it wouldn't surprise me

[Save The Dragons]

fae has scumreads and fae won't vote them and instead votes for slots fae doesn't believe would be dead at the end of the day.

and somehow this is town to you.

Why can't fae be scumreading you

[humaneatingmonkey]

no case. also fae doesn't believe there's enough time to build a wagon against me but votes me anyway. why not vote for n_m then? why did they not vote for you?

[humaneatingmonkey]

this is clearly a deadlock and im excited to hear the rest of the playerlist to engage with this conversation.

[Save The Dragons]

I also tried throwing you a couple lines - Olive branches, if you will - and youve not been convincing me of much with your recent efforts just ignoring my attempts to sort you.

I don't need to, is the thing.

People will read into you what they want to read into you. I read you as scum, I put my vote on you, and you've proceeded to squeal like a pig.

I just don't think Fae has no case on you. I just don't think that faes vote on you is policy.

But yeah I'm willing to shut up for a sec