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[MathBlade]

And Ari isn’t that bad as town. You’re just not

[MathBlade]

VOTE: Ari

I don’t think this ever picks up today and it’s more posterity but I feel confident enough here to vote.

[Aristeia]

And Ari isn’t that bad as town. You’re just not

you've never seen me have wrong reads as town?

[MathBlade]

And Ari isn’t that bad as town. You’re just not

you've never seen me have wrong reads as town?

Nope. Almost every game I am in if not every you’ve been right on me.

You’ve been annoyed by me sure, but you’ve always properly read me as town annoying.

[Aristeia]

except every time you wasted my time with a mech argument that's senseless you've been scum so why would I townread you for it this time?

[Ausuka]

I will confess to having never played with Aristeia before but I will be shocked if she has never been wrong about reads in early day 1 as town and I wouldn't classify being wrong day 1 as bad play either?

[MathBlade]

The closest you’ve ever been to “wrong” was the 80% game you mentioned earlier where your town block was right but kept picking wrong in the PoE

[Ausuka]

Hi I just wanted to say that the reason I have been inactive since math replaced in is because he replaced in at 1am??? What do you want from me

Also I'm reluctant to talk too much about PRs but I will say I agree with implosion on pretty much everything and also the best way to do mechanics in this setup is to look at what players actually did in previous runs instead of trying to like theoretically predict it imo

I am also thinking town HEM currently, I remember really liking STD's posting, Roden feels bleh to me but it's awkward to push both Roden and Dwlee at the same time because they're probably not scum together

I am confused by people doing associative VCA in the middle of d1 (Titus and mathblade iirc) I assume this is a playstyle thing from how no one else commented on it though, so

Will have more to say later after my exam

Good luck on the exam!

Thanks! It's a maths exam, seems like it would be your forte, unfortunately it's not mine

[MathBlade]

except every time you wasted my time with a mech argument that's senseless you've been scum so why would I townread you for it this time?

Because we aren’t arguing over mech

We are arguing over scum theory and what players would and wouldn’t do

And it’s not been a waste of time

I forgot how much I hate playing with scum you because when I am not scum I have the charisma of nothing because I don’t know the lay of the land

But how about you prove it and vote me?

I flip town then you go brag about how “right” you are

Then you flip tomorrow.

Chicken?

[Aristeia]

I feel stronger about HEM flipping scum and if HEM flips town your scum equity goes down by a lot so it makes literally no sense for me to try to flip you today.

[MathBlade]

Hi I just wanted to say that the reason I have been inactive since math replaced in is because he replaced in at 1am??? What do you want from me

Also I'm reluctant to talk too much about PRs but I will say I agree with implosion on pretty much everything and also the best way to do mechanics in this setup is to look at what players actually did in previous runs instead of trying to like theoretically predict it imo

I am also thinking town HEM currently, I remember really liking STD's posting, Roden feels bleh to me but it's awkward to push both Roden and Dwlee at the same time because they're probably not scum together

I am confused by people doing associative VCA in the middle of d1 (Titus and mathblade iirc) I assume this is a playstyle thing from how no one else commented on it though, so

Will have more to say later after my exam

Good luck on the exam!

Thanks! It's a maths exam, seems like it would be your forte, unfortunately it's not mine

Math is just a language.

Moon logic worlds
Std/Ausuaka/Ari

Std/Enchant/Ari

Day play worlds
Asuaka/Enchant/Bellaphant

Asuaka/Ari/Bellaphant

Some mix thereof broad spec

Yes Asuaka you have a scum ping because you’re nice because people aren’t usually nice

[MathBlade]

Once you remove the stigma of it being complicated people can pick it up easier

It takes time but math isn’t magic and I am sorry that stigma exists

[MathBlade]

But good luck on the exam!

[MathBlade]

I feel stronger about HEM flipping scum and if HEM flips town your scum equity goes down by a lot so it makes literally no sense for me to try to flip you today.

Cool.

I’d be very very surprised if HEM flips wolf here

Dude is extremely good at destroying his wagons

Eerily good.

Like I

really

doubt he’s scum.

[MathBlade]

Like to the point I would fake claim masons if it was possible level of sureity he’s town.

[Aristeia]

like your complaint with me seems to be that if Enchant is Ascetic Cop, that I am coaching the Scum Team to Shoot Enchant.

Except if I'm scum as you allege, I could simply shoot him by writing

shoot Enchant

in the scum PT.

So your argument with me literally makes no sense to me.

Maybe you really just enjoy arguing and that's something you like to do regardless of alignment.

It annoys me on a general level that instead of reading the cases me/titus built on HEM and either explaining why they are wrong or writing up your own towncase on HEM that we can read and think about.

You decided you can replace in here and go "HEM is town because Gut" and "reasons I can't explain" and fight me on random nonsense that I'm not even sure is related to the game atp.

[implosion]

I honestly think it's like, just Bad for the game of mafia for any town player to ever be that sure of any read on day one full stop.

[Aristeia]

I feel stronger about HEM flipping scum and if HEM flips town your scum equity goes down by a lot so it makes literally no sense for me to try to flip you today.

Cool.

I’d be very very surprised if HEM flips wolf here

Dude is extremely good at destroying his wagons

Eerily good.

Like I

really

doubt he’s scum.

This argument does nothing for me. He already tried ATEing his way out of it.

I have metric tons of meta on him if he tries any of his usual bullshit i will annihilate him.

[MathBlade]

I know that discussing almost anything with you or Titus if you’re scum is fruitless

You’re already twisting something we’ve agree to let lie what 4 , 5 times now?

You’re not in a mood to listen so discussing with you is pointless right now.

And too bad implosion I just am.

[Aristeia]

have you even read my case on him?

[Ausuka]

Damn that's the first time I've ever been scumread for being bad at maths

Yeah idk I've been doing it for the past 2 years and tried really hard to get it, I wouldn't even say I'm terrible at it but it would definitely take a lot more time than I have at my current education level to understand it, if that makes sense. My brain probably isn't wired for maths very much although I do believe anyone is capable of doing anything with lots of effort

Game related discussion, if we were going to BOP Ari it would make more sense to do it on HEM probably, I'm just really not convinced she can't get into TvTs as town

I'm a bit surprised by some people you didn't mention in your associative spec tbh. Gun to your head, Dwlee or Roden is a wolf, which one is it?

Pedit: Strongly agree with implosion here tbh, it's only been like three days since the game started

Also I should probably like actually do revision now but I will be back later

[Aristeia]

I'm not saying I can't be wrong.

I think I'm right.

I have all these reasons why I think I'm right.

If you have a better lead somewhere else then make the case.

if you think my case is wrong because of _____ reason then state the reason.

but like you coming and going HEM is town because "gut" literally is meaningless to me.

[MathBlade]

have you even read my case on him?

Skimmed it

Was going to go in-depth on lunch break.

To be quite frank that long a case on D1 is suspicious.

[MathBlade]

Damn that's the first time I've ever been scumread for being bad at maths

Yeah idk I've been doing it for the past 2 years and tried really hard to get it, I wouldn't even say I'm terrible at it but it would definitely take a lot more time than I have at my current education level to understand it, if that makes sense. My brain probably isn't wired for maths very much although I do believe anyone is capable of doing anything with lots of effort

Game related discussion, if we were going to BOP Ari it would make more sense to do it on HEM probably, I'm just really not convinced she can't get into TvTs as town

I'm a bit surprised by some people you didn't mention in your associative spec tbh. Gun to your head, Dwlee or Roden is a wolf, which one is it?

Pedit: Strongly agree with implosion here tbh, it's only been like three days since the game started

Also I should probably like actually do revision now but I will be back later

Gun to my head Roden. But like 51/49 margin.

[Aristeia]

have you even read my case on him?

Skimmed it

Was going to go in-depth on lunch break.

To be quite frank that long a case on D1 is suspicious.

if you think there are things in my case that are wrong you are welcome to refute them.