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[Gamma Emerald]

yeah I'm pretty sure cakez is scum after checking my last scum and town game that I can remember where he was town

[Aristeia]

is this at a higher level of certainty than you think I'm scum or lesser? :>

[Gamma Emerald]

greater than or equal to
that's because I know my rate on him in the past has been good, while you feel distinctly off it's not part of a pattern
VOTE: cakez to go with that

[SirCakez]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh i'm actually a little worried abt cakez too >.>

Why bc i agreed with ur post?

are you actually surprised your post seemed like a scumpost cause like
it did

Why didn't u say anything yourself then?

[Isis]

Gamma is even scummier and that associative doesn't make sense so that impairs my hype

[skitter30]

i don't understand why you think it's inevitable

because I don't really think anything more interesting is going on.

my push on you
the random TUF votes
the gamma vs sir cakez thing

there's quite a lot of interest happening

~

i'm not sure i have much else to say about this scumread, but i feel p good with my vote on you rn

[skitter30]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh i'm actually a little worried abt cakez too >.>

Why bc i agreed with ur post?

youv'e agreed with / echoed my posts like 5 times now

[Isis]

i'm not sure i have much else to say about this scumread, but i feel p good with my vote on you rn

R u sure, with this momentary distraction I can skip to the endgames

[Isis]

Slip but skip works too

[skitter30]

hmmm? not sure what you're asking

[Aristeia]

i don't understand why you think it's inevitable

because I don't really think anything more interesting is going on.

my push on you
the random TUF votes
the gamma vs sir cakez thing

there's quite a lot of interest happening

~

i'm not sure i have much else to say about this scumread, but i feel p good with my vote on you rn

when I say compelling.

I mean a strong scum case that I find convincing.

[skitter30]

you don't even have a strong scumcase on gamma ...

[Aristeia]

ok who has a strong scum case on someone?

[Gamma Emerald]

I wouldn't call it a case but I have a confident read on Cakez
I expect a decent number of people to take this seriously, I've definitely mentioned it in other games that I'm pretty sure the majority of this plist has been in

[skitter30]

(i mean if we're ignoring that i think i have a p decent case on you ...)

are you leading up to 'there are no strong cases so why not gamma'? or like what's the point of that question

[Aristeia]

(i mean if we're ignoring that i think i have a p decent case on you ...)

strongly disagree

[Aristeia]

are you leading up to 'there are no strong cases so why not gamma'? or like what's the point of that question

I don't know what the point of you telling me I don't have a strong case on gamma is.

I don't wait until I have a strong case on someone to vote them.

I vote for the person I feel has the best odds of flipping scum.

[GuiltyLion]

first off, thanks marci for the sundress avi. I like the blush & makeup job as well ^_^

I'm not responding to everything I'm reading (yet) but I wanna go for bat for Gamma as of the 20s pages where Cakez is pushing on her again. I do agree Gamma's early game posting on pages 10-12 or whatever pre-wagon is coasting but like I've seen scum!Gamma

not

coast before so it just doesn't strike me as a super compelling case, at least as Cakez presents it. I also think this:

It's interesting that 7/12 ITDNHTBMSUGE (individuals that do not happen to be mafia scum user gamma emerald) have voted for him thus far. The way votes have gone on and off fast makes this not particularly indicative of her being a townie, though, imo

is a good observation and something I feel does loosely point to town-alignment - my hunch is that scum aren't going to willy-nilly vote/unvote their partners, they wanna look meaningfully unaligned. overall I'd agree it's not "particularly" indicative but it's a small piece of evidence I'd weigh

at the same time I was also kinda thinking this set up is weird in that there's not really much incentive to bus at all - if you try to make yourself "obvtown" by bussing your partner it would raise a question of why scum don't mark you as confirmed town after the fact, since scum are probably going to want to make the most universally townread obviously town people the ones confirmed as town to keep the miselim pool open. so my hunch is we're not likely to be seeing a lot of meaningful bussing on D1 here

[skitter30]

my issue specifically right now is: why is the gamma wagon inevitable
and why are you viewing the game like in terms of inevitable and non-evitable wagons at a relatively early part of day1 when a lot of people don't have a lot of reads yet
this to me seems very incongruent with how i'd believe town-you would approach this game

i care why, in the absence of you apparently having a strong read on anybody, town-you settles for the inevitable wagon that a widely townread person is pushing, and doesn't try to actually form better reads

pedit @ari

also do u still think i'm town?

[Aristeia]

That sundress looks amazing on you GL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[GuiltyLion]

why are scum unlikely to bus? I'd bus like crazy d1 here

is it bad that the first thought that went through my head when I saw this question is

"is duckie!scum trying to derptell that he's town because he doesn't know why bussing is bad and he would know why bussing is bad if he were actually scum here because he'd have to think about the consequences of bussing?"

did this integrate into your read on TW? I like the thought process but I don't like the lack of firm opinion here

I'm inclined to see it as a legitimate derptell because I think if scum!worst was thinking about pros & cons of bussing he'd be less likely to even conceive of using this as an opportunity to derptell

[Gamma Emerald]

I wouldn't call it a case but I have a confident read on Cakez
I expect a decent number of people to take this seriously, I've definitely mentioned it in other games that I'm pretty sure the majority of this plist has been in

okay maybe not the majority but definitely at least 2

[Gamma Emerald]

3 actually
forgot tw replaced into a specific game

[GuiltyLion]

- i find the rise, and fall, of the gamma wagon to be quite interesting and perhaps scum-indicative of gamma.

do you think gamma's scumbuddies voted gamma and then unvoted? or why else would it be scum-indicative

[skitter30]

i was thinking that possibility at the time
for who specifically (preview of the last ten pages) - i think ari