Mini 2273: Science Diagrams That Look Like Shitposts 2 [END]

[Eiralox]

Is there really a chance he's jester?

Eiralox I think you took his bait hook line and sinker. I wouldn't assume there's any meaning behind that list.

one can but try lol

[Corwinoid]

UNVOTE:

Possible VLA, sick

[Not_Mafia]

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Yo @Not_Mafia, can u expand on ur Elsa Jay, Clidd, Alexcellent and Vivax placements? Any method behind the rainbow or will you continue to be mute?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=991UM2-Fww0&t=11s

[Eiralox]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=991UM2-Fww0&t=11s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBduNcf1eQc

[geraintm]

VOTE: Gibus

I'll be busy at work today but I'm reading up. My last readlist still applies.

i dont follow your thought patterns with this vote.

I don't really understand his scum read on Geraintm. Maybe it's coming from a meta read but it just feels a little bit forced to me.

of course it is going to be forced, it is day one. either some townie just wanting to appear clever or scum trying to paint me bad and set me up for later.

@crescent - if you are able to spot a player as scum 80% of the time then i tip my hat to you, you are a much better player than me. i'm happy with a 50% ratio for my votes.

I really, really, really hate it when people play every other game they've been in, instead of the game they're currently in.

this ^^^
good players will be aware of their tells and switch things up

Not trying to be rude, but it looks like you're trying to buy time for suggesting that I need to evaluate you later (D2).

that is exactly what i am doing.

Something I just remembered myself: Gera specifically said last game he didn't care about any read that didn't also come with a vote.

He immediately shaded Vivax for shading George, then called him performative. Vivax did not place any vote here.

i have just read this and actually realise i am fairly contradictory about this. i strongly weight votes, that is true. when i go back on day 2/3, it is the vote counts i go through to get my strong indications of how players have behaved.
but i also do take notice of people planning votes in advance or spreading a huge net of suspicions. i dislike players who will list every other player in the game as potentially scum, because they can rely on it later as evidence they thought someone was scummy.

so, i just want to apologise for being interested in both votes and non-voting stuff.

I can pressure someone without voting for them. There's not exactly a lot of posts to go on so far, but from what I've seen you are obvscum.

I will not pay any attention to people's pressure unless it is backed up by a vote, it is just posturing otherwise. If it ain't jn a vote count I will totally forget it ever existed

This suggests he could find such a thing "performative", but he never once accuses anyone in the game of such a thing. Not even me, when I pressured a few on day 1 but voted none of them.

To immediately jump to George's defense is a more stark contrast to last game than I've been thinking it is.

ah, this is why i hand out naught ypoints, give myself an marker that someone has done something i find weird that i can come back to later. i knew there was a reason i did it.

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10/10 for shitposting.

I am genuinely curious how the people who've played with him before really feel about him.

the game we managed to vote them off day 1 i consider one of my greatest achievements on this site!
it will never happen again.

i am wondering how much of Clidd's attack on me is based on their emotional reaction to my unexplained random vote on them.

caught up to 292

[Elsa Jay]

Okay after having a truck issue and not so nice customers yesterday after other events, I slept without posting here again. My B.

I was kinda hoping we were gonna get Gibus out instead of NotMaf. The devil you know over the one you don't, you know? But it seems like at least Gibus is trying to do something.

Won't say who yet but reading the last four pages made 2 people move up in my town list and 1 down. I'm here to interact all day as well.

[UNOwen]

If NM engagement level depends on his alignment then my own experience suggests he's mafia, but somehow I doubt that's the case.

[UNOwen]

Won't say who yet but reading the last four pages made 2 people move up in my town list and 1 down. I'm here to interact all day as well.

Where is Corwin on your list and why?

[Crescent]

Is there really a chance he's jester?

Eiralox I think you took his bait hook line and sinker. I wouldn't assume there's any meaning behind that list.

one can but try lol

Is there really a chance he's jester?

Eiralox I think you took his bait hook line and sinker. I wouldn't assume there's any meaning behind that list.

Eiralox still comes off as super duper salty towards me and I still don't think it's fake. I challenged the way they play and they can't let it go.

I stopped reading that chain of posts probably before I even got halfway through.

And please tell me Jester is banned here.

[Crescent]

Okay after having a truck issue and not so nice customers yesterday after other events, I slept without posting here again. My B.

I was kinda hoping we were gonna get Gibus out instead of NotMaf. The devil you know over the one you don't, you know? But it seems like at least Gibus is trying to do something.

Won't say who yet but reading the last four pages made 2 people move up in my town list and 1 down. I'm here to interact all day as well.

This post is weird. We have almost 3 days left in day 1. I would assume things would eventually be done to avoid being murdered strictly on policy.

Why are you talking about NM as if he's already marked for death?

[Elsa Jay]

From some of the discussion it seems like a valid possibility it'll end in his demise. Not garunteed, but likely. But that's why I wanna interact today with everyone since I'll be busy again tomorrow. See if the inspiration kicks in and i nail who it is before that.

[Eiralox]

I stopped reading that chain of posts probably before I even got halfway through.

Noted. Town would have hunted for possible scumtells, so why ignore? And my recent posts make a very cogent summary of your greening of Gibus, as well as your blatant hypocrisy regarding what you see as fluff posts among other things. If you don't want to address those points, fine, evasiveness lures me like a rat to cheese.

[Crescent]

But honestly I think the crucial thing with Eiralox is they don't understand the difference between obvious fluff made in jest, and fluff designed to look like content.

Anyways George hasn't shown up in over a day and has somehow barely given us more than NM has, yet wasn't even mentioned in that Elsa post. Actually an ISO says there's been a total blindspot for George in general.

So what do you think of his activity thus far?

[Eiralox]

Okay after having a truck issue and not so nice customers yesterday after other events, I slept without posting here again. My B.

I was kinda hoping we were gonna get Gibus out instead of NotMaf. The devil you know over the one you don't, you know? But it seems like at least Gibus is trying to do something.

Won't say who yet but reading the last four pages made 2 people move up in my town list and 1 down. I'm here to interact all day as well.

I would also rather mob Gibus than Not_MAfia if it comes to it.

[Crescent]

I stopped reading that chain of posts probably before I even got halfway through.

Noted. Town would have hunted for possible scumtells, so why ignore? And my recent posts make a very cogent summary of your greening of Gibus, as well as your blatant hypocrisy regarding what you see as fluff posts among other things. If you don't want to address those points, fine, evasiveness lures me like a rat to cheese.

Because my townread on you is strong and it would be a waste of my time.

Arguing against personal bias is pointless and only serves to derail towns.

[Eiralox]

But honestly I think the crucial thing with Eiralox is they don't understand the difference between obvious fluff made in jest, and fluff designed to look like content.

no I think you are enforcing arbitrary distinctions and assuming they are commonly held values. And.. obvious fluff made in jest... what do you refer to here? None of your fluff is jesty, it's fluff. You have a multitude of fluff posts, i have one big post you call fluff. Before my post you weren't as engaged in this game as you were after it, esp in terms of content and direction of your posts. This sudden change in your behavior is one of the factors that are making me suspicious, and yet another factor which you fail to address(cos you don't wannna read -.-)

[Crescent]

Like to put this in perspective, I actually put a player on *ignore* in a recent game, and the host let me do it. I'm pretty well just going to totally tune out your posts if the word fluff is in them.

If you wanna feud with me, it's going to be a one-way thing.

[Crescent]

I mean though, you even gave a good foundational argument in how I completely screwed up registering Gibus' vote on Elsa. That's the kind of attack you should be pursuing against someone if you legitimately think they're scum.

When you make it sound this personal, people don't follow. I've made it this personal a few times, myself. This isn't the kind of argument that is actually going to push votes forward on someone. Ironically, my pointing this out is more likely to get me voted than anything you've done so far.

[Crescent]

From some of the discussion it seems like a valid possibility it'll end in his demise. Not garunteed, but likely. But that's why I wanna interact today with everyone since I'll be busy again tomorrow. See if the inspiration kicks in and i nail who it is before that.

Ok mafia lesson over shutting up on that topic now and moving on.

I wouldn't.. Really say any voteoff is particularly likely at the moment. People will get off NM if he does something. The biggest issue is we are horrifyingly split on votes while waiting for content from multiple players.

What we need most is people coming to an actual consensus of sorts or we're just handing control of the vote over to the scumteam. Treating NM like one feels very dangerous

[Eiralox]

I mean though, you even gave a good foundational argument in how I completely screwed up registering Gibus' vote on Elsa. That's the kind of attack you should be pursuing against someone if you legitimately think they're scum.

i don't think you are scum, scummy? yes. This is not an attack, it is an analysis. My language may appear emotional but that's cos i type spontaneously, i'm not being as mean as ur making me out to be, merely blunt.

I have made some serious studies and points regarding your meta, none of them regarding FLUFF. As you don't choose to read them or address them in a serious manner, or at least state intent to go over them at a later point and come back with a conclusion, well, what more can I say? Chances are the vote won't be swinging your way today, your recent contributions not relating to me appear town and as I have not made a thorough study of them I will not aver otherwise, they feel town. It is your behavior before and directly after my post which I am dissecting.

It is your greening of Gibus in the beginning and way into the thread, the obvious blind spot towards them, which I am addressing. Your change in behavior. Ugh it's all there........... anyway.

I'm likely to vote for Gibus or one other who I shall not yet name. My votes stays where it is now because, frankly, you're being evasive.

[geraintm]

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Yo @Not_Mafia, can u expand on ur Elsa Jay, Clidd, Alexcellent and Vivax placements? Any method behind the rainbow or will you continue to be mute?

i am amused by your attempt to get sense from not mafia

best of luck with that

What we need most is people coming to an actual consensus of sorts or we're just handing control of the vote over to the scumteam. Treating NM like one feels very dangerous

i cant work out why, but this obvious desperation for wagons to form makes me uncomfortable.

[Crescent]

Dismissive =/= evasive. It's already been pointed out the arguments based on meta yesterday-two days ago are completely reversed from the arguments they should be making. There was one meta-based argument there, and I already made it for you a while ago, since you weren't making it yourself.

I would be legitimately surprised if you flipped scum. That's all I really need out of you right now.

And lord my gut still says NM is town and I hate it because my desire to murder people like him is very strong.

[Crescent]

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Yo @Not_Mafia, can u expand on ur Elsa Jay, Clidd, Alexcellent and Vivax placements? Any method behind the rainbow or will you continue to be mute?

i am amused by your attempt to get sense from not mafia

best of luck with that

What we need most is people coming to an actual consensus of sorts or we're just handing control of the vote over to the scumteam. Treating NM like one feels very dangerous

i cant work out why, but this obvious desperation for wagons to form makes me uncomfortable.

We have less than 3 days left and an 8-way vote split. This is a

nightmare scenario

for town. We have virtually no control over who gets voted off like this and no way of actually pressuring anyone.

I said this immediately when I saw how split the vote is. If you're town and not alarmed by that vote spread that's a you problem.

It doesnt matter who scum is. They've loved how this day has progressed so far. This goes double if NM is town.

[Crescent]

In that vein I think we're close to a point where anyone who's a solo vote on a train has scum equity - Especially those who have done absolutely nothing to push said train.

And looking at the vote list, both Gibus and George fit that bill to a T.

Gibus and Elsa are countervoting and Gera/Clidd are countervoting.

But Gibus has not held up on his end of the bargain in actually pushing and explaining his vote.

VCA says pressure Gibus or George.

[Crescent]

Also I'd go as far as to say if that vote spread is still around 24 hours from now, we may as well just flip coins because it has the same chance of hitting scum as we would at that point.

0 people have actually been pressured so far, and my #1 would make a 9th different vote. I do feel like Gibus is having people talk about voting him, and then those votes don't come.