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[Dwlee99]

That's not how it works I thought

[Gamma Emerald]

There’s 1 way it’s possible

[Dwlee99]

all actions emerge from potions, and players may use one each night by default. whenever a player takes an action, they lose the potion that allowed them to take the action (though the potion may be received by another player).

Okay I didn't hallucinate. One per night

[Dwlee99]

a player is unable to use more than one Pain potion each night.

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh
I thought a DM potion could make that possible

[KittyTacky]

Compromise wagons tend to be town, guys. I said it.

VOTE: Not_Mafia

[Roden]

That's actually my point though Dwlee. If HEM is town and is sure that I'm scum and sees that he doesn't have the votes to get me Day 1, why didn't he get someone to throw Pain potions at me with him? He made it clear multiple times that he wanted to organize how everyone used potions, but when given the chance to kill his top scum read by doing so, he does nothing. Not even a follow up today, just a blank vote.

Optimally, he should've had people use two Pain potions and see if I lived. If I did, then he would 100% know that I was scum and that I had my partners protect me. Scum wouldn't protect me if I'm town either since it wouldn't be worth it, all that would do is waste potions they need to use to protect themselves, and they need all the extra mis-kills on town that they can get.

Because of that, I don't think it's possible for HEM to be town and use a Pain potion on me. If that were true and we were TvT, the scum team would know that using a Pain potion on me would kill me and would've done so. If I'm scum and he's town, then he made an abysmal play by warning me that he was going to try to kill me. My partners would just protect me with a Doctor potion or block him with the Jail potion.

The only thing that makes sense is that he's scum and faked his potion threats, since it's better for scum!HEM to use a Day phase to try to mis-elim me and save his Pain potions for people he can't mis-elim.

[Flea The Magician]

Wasn't a compromise, it was one I genuinely believed in. Not even sorry on that one. I need to put some time aside for this game which is likely to be tomorrow so I can reassess stuff.

[Venus and Mars]

I jk’d NM last night

Why though

Isn’t it obvious? I thought if he had a pain potion, he’d use it on us.

~M

[Venus and Mars]

HEM I thought you were going to kill me with Pain potions

What happened

@HEM did you claim this? @Roden can you link/quote the post, I’m too damned lazy.

roden, you're scum. you're getting my potions tonight.

So what happened @HEM?

[Venus and Mars]

Wasn't a compromise, it was one I genuinely believed in. Not even sorry on that one. I need to put some time aside for this game which is likely to be tomorrow so I can reassess stuff.

Well, what did we gain from his flip? I don’t see how we learned anything. All we know was his alignment and what potions he had.

His posting read townie but when I looked at his other games, he had done a helluva a lot more. At any rate, I still think Kitty’s town, so I think we likely would have gotten a miselim either way.

Anyway, what I learned from FB flip is to trust my instincts and they haven’t changed on Kitty.

I think there’s probably one scum in HEM/Roden and beyond that, I’m clueless.

Rn, lean HEM based off what Roden said about the pain potions.

~M

[humaneatingmonkey]

i dont feel well, and i'll be more present tomorrow. you all can wait, day just began.

[humaneatingmonkey]

i used my potion of harmography to see if anyone targetted venus and mars. there was none.

[humaneatingmonkey]

i dont think i have pain potions because i asked the mod what potions i had and he only gave me that potion of harmography. so sorry i can't flip roden. let's just do that today.

[Venus and Mars]

i dont feel well, and i'll be more present tomorrow. you all can wait, day just began.

Of course, feel free to take as much time as you need. Rl always comes before any game.

[Venus and Mars]

i used my potion of harmography to see if anyone targetted venus and mars. there was none.

Wow really? So I totally wasted my jk potion on NM then:/

Well I guess that’s good news then.

This game is really frustrating. At first I thought it was due to NM and his crazy deathtunel on me but now it’s whomever scum is in this game, they’re doing a pretty bang up job of fooling me, which totally sucks.

[Venus and Mars]

potion of Pain: at night, you may drizzle this on a player's dinner; they will take 1 HP of damage by the end of the night. a player is unable to use more than one Pain potion each night.

ingredients: green crud, grey witherments, tonine, broken magics, mute blue crud

So, if scum can use multiple pain potions and actually kill a player in a single night and we jk’d NM and according to HEM no one targeted us, so what are the odds here that scum no killed?

If pretty much none, it would mean that NM was either the target or scum unless we weren’t the only one who used jk last night. If anyone used harmography on NM, that would be extremely helpful.

If no one else claimed jk on any one than it would mean that NM was either the target or scum right?

[Dwlee99]

i used my potion of harmography to see if anyone targetted venus and mars. there was none.

Wow really? So I totally wasted my jk potion on NM then:/

Well I guess that’s good news then.

This game is really frustrating. At first I thought it was due to NM and his crazy deathtunel on me but now it’s whomever scum is in this game, they’re doing a pretty bang up job of fooling me, which totally sucks.

Not true. If NM tried to pain you then the jailkeep blocked it so it didn't show up to the harmography

Also, scum are likely "going wide" with their potions by spreading them out so they can kill multiple at once, but it slightly depends on how many pains they have

[Gamma Emerald]

does JK potion also prevent pain potions on the JK target from showing?

[Save The Dragons]

if we're just claiming

i JK'd kitty last night

[humaneatingmonkey]

i implore people to start reconsidering their townread on Roden. what has he done that is so hard to fake? their whole beef with me is super fake imo.

[Roden]

i dont think i have pain potions because i asked the mod what potions i had and he only gave me that potion of harmography. so sorry i can't flip roden. let's just do that today.

Cool lies.

i implore people to start reconsidering their townread on Roden. what has he done that is so hard to fake? their whole beef with me is super fake imo.

Your only case against me is that I scum read you.

[Gamma Emerald]

I used a pain potion last night

[Venus and Mars]

i used my potion of harmography to see if anyone targetted venus and mars. there was none.

Wow really? So I totally wasted my jk potion on NM then:/

Well I guess that’s good news then.

This game is really frustrating. At first I thought it was due to NM and his crazy deathtunel on me but now it’s whomever scum is in this game, they’re doing a pretty bang up job of fooling me, which totally sucks.

Not true. If NM tried to pain you then the jailkeep blocked it so it didn't show up to the harmography

Also, scum are likely "going wide" with their potions by spreading them out so they can kill multiple at once, but it slightly depends on how many pains they have

Oh you’re absolutely right. If HEM used harmography on me and I jk’d NM, it definitely wouldn’t show up. So all HEM has actually proven then is that no one other than NM visited me last night, correct?

[Venus and Mars]

if we're just claiming

i JK'd kitty last night

Maybe we should all mass claim which potions we used last night and on whom.