Mini 2273: Science Diagrams That Look Like Shitposts 2 [END]

[Elsa Jay]

Interesting two votes on Owen who has been in my null zone like, this entire time. Can either of you elaborate more?

The scum team Eira is making have to vote together. Vote Owen with us Cres.

[clidd]

Crescent, stop calling my random vote not random.
You are talking out of your ass.
I will ignore you the for the rest of the game because your insistence that you know my actions better than me is just baffling me.

I actually do like this post.

It's not something I think scum!Gera would go so far to say as scum. Scum!him can be scummy and messy, but he's not toxic.

Crescent was getting in his nerves and town!Gera would be more likely to react this way.

pedit: What's sloths? (my english is not native).

pedit: Spicy.

[Eiralox]

Interesting two votes on Owen who has been in my null zone like, this entire time. Can either of you elaborate more?

The scum team Eira is making have to vote together. Vote Owen with us Cres.

No, it's George lel.

[Eiralox]

Clidd/Elsa/George

[Crescent]

Interesting two votes on Owen who has been in my null zone like, this entire time. Can either of you elaborate more?

The scum team Eira is making have to vote together. Vote Owen with us Cres.

Oh, I get it now.

...But that doesn't answer why *him* to begin with.

[Elsa Jay]

Sounds fun. Join us on Owen and make it a 4 person team.

Unless you townread him for some reason.

[Crescent]

And lord do I get some.... "said the spider to the fly" vibes from that Elsa right now.

I *just* said I null read Owen. I've made it pretty clear this game I've never really had any meaningful read on him.

[Elsa Jay]

Interesting two votes on Owen who has been in my null zone like, this entire time. Can either of you elaborate more?

The scum team Eira is making have to vote together. Vote Owen with us Cres.

Oh, I get it now.

...But that doesn't answer why *him* to begin with.

I mean. My readlist did put him on the bottom of it. Why wouldn't I vote there. Minus the policy ones, it's my biggest scum read. Is it wrong to vote there?

[Eiralox]

pedit: What's sloths? (my english is not native).

the mossy-ass looking animal in our benevolent host's avatar ; )

el perezoso?

[clidd]

UNVOTE: Not_Mafia

@Unowen, can you expand on your Corwin read? I'm not getting it

The initial vote was because I thought 24 was a little awkward, but it's mainly his posts since about you/Elsa that look phoney. My impression is that he's gone backwards, asking a fairly pointless question of Elsa, then shading the exchange between you, then coming with an elaboration on his thoughts but retracting it because the whole thing is arbitrary. 194 reads to me almost like an apology for raising it in the first place.

Spoiler:

I think part of it is the pronoun "her" in 79 threw me for a bit because I dropped the context for it, so I thought you were referring to Elsa. George was right that your vote seems oddly placed there. And then she signs off with the OMGUS/"Riddle that vote" post, which goes from 74 that seemed like a mellow promoting activity and avoiding division to 87 a couple of hours later where she's looking for a fight.

I think it's making a mountain out of a mole hill though, I think her progression is more organic than I thought, and I think I misread or was confused by your posts starting the exchange because of the context change.

1) he's saying he didn't like your vote because he agrees with George's 85 but that it also might be because he got confused by another post of yours.
2) notes Elsa's progression as though it's a jarring but that you voted her in a pretty accusatory way in between these posts which to me is a pretty obvious explainer for why she would change her perspective.
3) again, the question of whether Elsa considers herself a strong personality seems completely irrelevant to whatever issues he had with that exchange. Supposedly if she'd answered "No." then that would be suggest she was pretending but I don't see how at all. Is someone who doesn't consider themselves a strong personality not supposed to react to votes against them? If the idea was that Elsa faked her reaction to Alex, the intuitive way to press this is by asking her about her vote on Alex.

Too political, not an organic tone and a weak slot overall ^

He'd enter the classification of ''wispy activity but trying to look towny'', which I think would be the standard approach to a scum!Uno scenario.

[Elsa Jay]

^
That too.

[Crescent]

Interesting two votes on Owen who has been in my null zone like, this entire time. Can either of you elaborate more?

The scum team Eira is making have to vote together. Vote Owen with us Cres.

Oh, I get it now.

...But that doesn't answer why *him* to begin with.

I mean. My readlist did put him on the bottom of it. Why wouldn't I vote there. Minus the policy ones, it's my biggest scum read. Is it wrong to vote there?

The thing is more I just saw two people vote the same guy without a single word at the time as to why they did it.

[Crescent]

UNVOTE: Not_Mafia

@Unowen, can you expand on your Corwin read? I'm not getting it

The initial vote was because I thought 24 was a little awkward, but it's mainly his posts since about you/Elsa that look phoney. My impression is that he's gone backwards, asking a fairly pointless question of Elsa, then shading the exchange between you, then coming with an elaboration on his thoughts but retracting it because the whole thing is arbitrary. 194 reads to me almost like an apology for raising it in the first place.

Spoiler:

I think part of it is the pronoun "her" in 79 threw me for a bit because I dropped the context for it, so I thought you were referring to Elsa. George was right that your vote seems oddly placed there. And then she signs off with the OMGUS/"Riddle that vote" post, which goes from 74 that seemed like a mellow promoting activity and avoiding division to 87 a couple of hours later where she's looking for a fight.

I think it's making a mountain out of a mole hill though, I think her progression is more organic than I thought, and I think I misread or was confused by your posts starting the exchange because of the context change.

1) he's saying he didn't like your vote because he agrees with George's 85 but that it also might be because he got confused by another post of yours.
2) notes Elsa's progression as though it's a jarring but that you voted her in a pretty accusatory way in between these posts which to me is a pretty obvious explainer for why she would change her perspective.
3) again, the question of whether Elsa considers herself a strong personality seems completely irrelevant to whatever issues he had with that exchange. Supposedly if she'd answered "No." then that would be suggest she was pretending but I don't see how at all. Is someone who doesn't consider themselves a strong personality not supposed to react to votes against them? If the idea was that Elsa faked her reaction to Alex, the intuitive way to press this is by asking her about her vote on Alex.

Too political, not an organic tone and a weak slot overall ^

He'd enter the classification of ''wispy activity but trying to look towny'', which I think would be the standard approach to a scum!Uno scenario.

"Skulking" is how I've seen it called. How indicative it is tends to depend on the player. How much experience do you have playing with him?

[clidd]

pedit: What's sloths? (my english is not native).

the mossy-ass looking animal in our benevolent host's avatar ; )

el perezoso?

Got it. Odd word, but thank you for teaching me Miss Eiralox.

[clidd]

@Crescent

Basically none, but his posting pattern reminds me of scumplayers I've seen in the past (2020/2021).

So I would say it's more like pattern assimilation and not something particular about him.

[Eiralox]

"Will you walk into my parlour?" said a spider to a fly;
" 'Tis the prettiest little parlour that ever you did spy.
The way into my parlour is up a winding stair,
And I have many pretty things to shew when you are there."
"Oh no, no!" said the little fly, "to ask me is in vain,
For who goes up your winding stair can ne'er come down again."

[Elsa Jay]

We give free coffee and/or tea.

[Crescent]

Owen is tied with George and Gibus for second lowest poster in the game. It feels like he's posted more than those two and he's in that activity range where him being scum wouldn't surprise me. He's now at 3 votes... Let's see how he reacts to some pressure.

[Crescent]

We give free coffee and/or tea.

I had tea about an hour ago.

Coffee is disgusting hellspawn designed to enslave the souls of mankind~

[Elsa Jay]

More of a soda guy myself.

[clidd]

"Will you walk into my parlour?" said a spider to a fly;
" 'Tis the prettiest little parlour that ever you did spy.
The way into my parlour is up a winding stair,
And I have many pretty things to shew when you are there."
"Oh no, no!" said the little fly, "to ask me is in vain,
For who goes up your winding stair can ne'er come down again."

[Eiralox]

While i disagree with Alex's read on Elsa, I think his defense comes from a townie perspective.

VOTE: Geraintm

Geraint is my best bet for scum, he's been suggesting anti-town behavior and is actively doing anti-town things. Like:

my vote for clidd was purely random

and

We have less than 3 days left and an 8-way vote split. This is a

nightmare scenario

for town. We have virtually no control over who gets voted off like this and no way of actually pressuring anyone.

I said this immediately when I saw how split the vote is. If you're town and not alarmed by that vote spread that's a you problem.

It doesnt matter who scum is. They've loved how this day has progressed so far. This goes double if NM is town.

then lets just no vote, that surely has to be better than what you are expecting to happen

Literally voting at random is better than a no-vote. No-votes give us absolutely no information.

@GeorgeBailey In light of Geraintm's expose regarding their meta, where does your vote stand? Do you still think your first reason for voting, the random vote, is valid? Regarding the context, isn't it possible that your second reason is merely a snarky retort from Gera toward Crescent?

Going through your ISO, after your vote you offer no other reasoning on why Geraintm.

Before your vote, the only mention of and interaction with Geraintm you have is #183

because no one can get a good read on anyone day 1, and certainly not by post 40. shouting to the world you find someone scummy so early on just feels like getting something out there so you can show people later you had a read on them

I feel like we go through this everytime. (I was Vanya last game).

You can absolutely have good reads on Day 1. Datisi and I had NPOM (MonkeyMan) pinned as scum in a mini normal once because he was acting pretty strange. And even if your reads are wrong, pushing people and seeing how people react to being called scum is invaluable for future days.

Although the post did seem kinda weird to call me scummy for meming during RVS. I feel like RVS is the only time you can meme as a player and it doesn't affect the game.

So you haven't made much of a case on them and jumped on the wagon. Gotcha.

[Crescent]

Now I'm curious did NM's vote on him come before or after that Gera vote?

Interesting, I think I just figured out NM's reason for voting GB. His vote was shortly *after*.

[Eiralox]

Ammendment: In #442 you answer Alex


"It doesn't directly correlate, but scum thrives on anti-town behavior. I think Gera's response was interesting, which I'll reply to in a little bit, but i still think it was worth voting over."

[Vivax]

Is there really a chance he's jester?

I have read this half a dozen times now while re-reading and updating notes... and every time it just sticks out like a fucking sore thumb. Why in the world would you think/suggest this?

It's the first thing he posted.
If he's as good at telling the truth as he is at voting mafia, I should be worried.