Open 853 - PYP X/Y S_S [game over!]

[Titus]

I am kind of at the point it doesn’t matter what I post.

You all have decided to elim me

You all already disregard what opinions I did share.

I think there’s more value in my miselim this point than anything else for town.

I think you need me to flip green to reset reads.

Good luck.

Ari, is this poster scum or town?

[Gamma Emerald]

mathblade tried pretty hard to derail the hem wagon he screamed, he was rude, he flung weird moonlogic everywhere - thats a sign of geniune belief imo and makes very little sense for scum!blade to do for town!hem

has hem done anything to derail the mathblade wagon?

HEM has been out of commission

yes but read his iso

he doesnt really defend mathblade even when he is here

This feels pretty important and I think it needs some emphasis on why this is AI

HEM's latest take is that wagons are getting pushed by scum to try to out PRs. However, he's pretty low on the draft list, so it doesn't make much sense to push him just to get info on where PRs are, and he continued to be a leading wagon even after he claimed VT anyway. The only other notable wagons were Ari, who never claimed since her wagon died early, Dwlee, who's even lower than HEM and also didn't claim, and Math, who didn't claim but is at the bottom of the draft and has no real chance to snag a PR. The narrative that scum are pushing wagons to PR hunt just doesn't make much sense.

Despite this, he tried to take his town read back on Math recently even though he had him as lock town earlier, and should be considered town if scum are hunting for PRs like he claimed. What I think is really going on is that he realized his logic was inherently flawed and that he needs to anti-spew his "read" on Math in case he gets elim'd first.

yea i forgot that pr pushing thing is literally nonsense since we have an ordered draft its not like the roles got dealt out randomly. scum more or less know where the powerful prs they have to shoot are.

VOTE: HEM
yeah this is pretty potent stuff

[MathBlade]

Titus why did you not case Wallflower when I asked?

[humaneatingmonkey]

you know it's hard to care about this game if every time i pop in, i check if anyone has responded to me and i come back and people just continue to talk about how scummy my posts are.

[MathBlade]

you know it's hard to care about this game if every time i pop in, i check if anyone has responded to me and i come back and people just continue to talk about how scummy my posts are.

Who do you think is scum pushing you?

[Titus]

Titus why did you not case Wallflower when I asked?

Because I didn't see it. I also don't have a strong case there.

@HEM, Can you please give something even if it's reasonless?

[MathBlade]

Titus why did you not case Wallflower when I asked?

Because I didn't see it. I also don't have a strong case there.

@HEM, Can you please give something even if it's reasonless?

Then why would I join you on a wagon you don’t have a strong case for? Like that seems kinda silly.

[humaneatingmonkey]

i towncased implo. i scumcased dwlee. i towncased math, and asked everyone what happened about that. and yet people keep on twisting my shit to mean that it's scum. no one engages me. i ask ari to describe my town meta and she just regurgitates her "but you lied" even though i did a whole post to debunk that.

at this point there's really no point to playing this game anymore especially since im way behind and that's being used against me as "antispew". if everyone is resigned to flipping me before the gamestate moves on then i suggest just go ahead with it.

[humaneatingmonkey]

i think ari has been bad faith with her meta and her push on me. she shows no signs of reconsideration even though i engaged her about it.

[Titus]

i think ari has been bad faith with her meta and her push on me. she shows no signs of reconsideration even though i engaged her about it.

Go on. Where did this push start?

[MathBlade]

What do you make of Titus HEM?

[humaneatingmonkey]

the push started from early game and she has sat on that. i think she has been townreading everyone who agrees with her just so she can influence the game to this mislim. otherwise, i see no reason for her to continue seeing me as scum even though she has "mountains of meta" on me. everyone who has played with me before knows that i am aggressive town or scum. where did i lie? that's her whole thing about me.

[humaneatingmonkey]

i mean, anyone who thinks it's mathblade + hem is being blind or dishonest at this point. there's no reason mathblade harddefends me as scum here.

[humaneatingmonkey]

math i already asked you this but what happened why did you vote me

[MathBlade]

math i already asked you this but what happened why did you vote me

Mostly frustration

[humaneatingmonkey]

hem + mathblade also doens't make sense because we hardly have any influence n the game. i';m out and mathblade is basically being shit on.

[humaneatingmonkey]

do you know how hard math plays as scum? this is not it.

[humaneatingmonkey]

do you know how hard i play scum? this is not it.

[Aristeia]

I am kind of at the point it doesn’t matter what I post.

You all have decided to elim me

You all already disregard what opinions I did share.

I think there’s more value in my miselim this point than anything else for town.

I think you need me to flip green to reset reads.

Good luck.

Ari, is this poster scum or town?

thats scum antispew

[MathBlade]

I am kind of at the point it doesn’t matter what I post.

You all have decided to elim me

You all already disregard what opinions I did share.

I think there’s more value in my miselim this point than anything else for town.

I think you need me to flip green to reset reads.

Good luck.

Ari, is this poster scum or town?

thats scum antispew

That was me earlier this game

[Aristeia]

like for reference look at this game i played with scum mathblade:

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=89351


as soon as he was going down he went straight into antispew

Math doesn't know if he dies here.
Math still is not giving a view of the gamestate but just attacking who shows up. That is antispew. Town!Math either has a theory or does something to get one.

Suppose Math is scum, how does the game look? Who is scum?
If they're both scum, who is the third?

i would be really confused if math is scum here

[humaneatingmonkey]

i mean, anyone who thinks it's mathblade + hem is being blind or dishonest at this point. there's no reason mathblade harddefends me as scum here.

this is about titus.

[Titus]

I am kind of at the point it doesn’t matter what I post.

You all have decided to elim me

You all already disregard what opinions I did share.

I think there’s more value in my miselim this point than anything else for town.

I think you need me to flip green to reset reads.

Good luck.

Ari, is this poster scum or town?

thats scum antispew

And if that tone matched someone in this game, they'd be scum too right? Especially if they were wagoned?

[Aristeia]

I am kind of at the point it doesn’t matter what I post.

You all have decided to elim me

You all already disregard what opinions I did share.

I think there’s more value in my miselim this point than anything else for town.

I think you need me to flip green to reset reads.

Good luck.

Ari, is this poster scum or town?

thats scum antispew

That was me earlier this game

lol didnt read that post

ngl i kind of stopped reading your posts a long time ago

[Aristeia]

I am kind of at the point it doesn’t matter what I post.

You all have decided to elim me

You all already disregard what opinions I did share.

I think there’s more value in my miselim this point than anything else for town.

I think you need me to flip green to reset reads.

Good luck.

you're talking about one post

i am talking about the entire iso

Ari, is this poster scum or town?

thats scum antispew

And if that tone matched someone in this game, they'd be scum too right? Especially if they were wagoned?