Open 853 - PYP X/Y S_S [game over!]

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma, do you see where I am going? Do you need me to go further in showing my thought process in why I'm no longer conflicted about Math scum?

I think I get it but you're playing with napalm

[MathBlade]

She’s doing that thing she did in the gunsmith game where I had an inno on gamma and the wagon sat on Carca for a while (thanks again Gamma) and she tried to start up wagons here trying to get anyone to join her.

[Roden]

i towncased implo. i scumcased dwlee. i towncased math, and asked everyone what happened about that. and yet people keep on twisting my shit to mean that it's scum. no one engages me. i ask ari to describe my town meta and she just regurgitates her "but you lied" even though i did a whole post to debunk that.

at this point there's really no point to playing this game anymore especially since im way behind and that's being used against me as "antispew". if everyone is resigned to flipping me before the gamestate moves on then i suggest just go ahead with it.

There's been plenty of reasons given for why you're getting scum read that you're not responding to.

i think ari has been bad faith with her meta and her push on me. she shows no signs of reconsideration even though i engaged her about it.

I really really hate that you keep repeating this and "Ari won't town case me". Nobody has to town case you. Ari's scum read on you isn't any less legitimate just because she won't town case you or reconsider her read. That's such a ridiculous stance to have and I've literally never seen town!you demand something like that in your past town games.

[humaneatingmonkey]

im not asking ari to town case me. im asking her to describe my town meta.

[MathBlade]

i towncased implo. i scumcased dwlee. i towncased math, and asked everyone what happened about that. and yet people keep on twisting my shit to mean that it's scum. no one engages me. i ask ari to describe my town meta and she just regurgitates her "but you lied" even though i did a whole post to debunk that.

at this point there's really no point to playing this game anymore especially since im way behind and that's being used against me as "antispew". if everyone is resigned to flipping me before the gamestate moves on then i suggest just go ahead with it.

There's been plenty of reasons given for why you're getting scum read that you're not responding to.

i think ari has been bad faith with her meta and her push on me. she shows no signs of reconsideration even though i engaged her about it.

I really really hate that you keep repeating this and "Ari won't town case me". Nobody has to town case you. Ari's scum read on you isn't any less legitimate just because she won't town case you or reconsider her read. That's such a ridiculous stance to have and I've literally never seen town!you demand something like that in your past town games.

I think I like you in my no elim block

[humaneatingmonkey]

if she's trying to meta case me then she should have detected a strong contrast to how i play as town vs how i play as scum.

[humaneatingmonkey]

i dont think she has mentioned my town meta once.

[humaneatingmonkey]

it's to make a point that her meta case is bad faith as shit

[humaneatingmonkey]

I've literally never seen town!you demand something like that in your past town games.

like this, see?

[MathBlade]

I think the case on you scum is kinda solid honestly.

You’re complaining versus giving reads that would help after flip

I am still resetting so could you do a readwall?

[humaneatingmonkey]

every time i prompt her to explain, she just blanketly says "you play different" but yeah citation needed.

[humaneatingmonkey]

I think the case on you scum is kinda solid honestly.

okay which one?

[Titus]

titus i just want to elim hem and then implo. i think they both flip scum. and then if enchant is still alive ill probly flip him. i an willing to flip mathblade if the game isnt over atp but i think it will be.

maybe i am just delusional in terms of how much i think im right >.>

No. If we do HEM today, it's Math tmo and then [redacted] possibly to win. Your micro showed me that.

When Math started his "no one will listen" kick, he was wagoned along with HEM.

He gave up when he realized no town lim was possible.

He's done the same here by refusing to give a townblock or give reads.

I have zero idea how you can defend him after seeing that micro post and then adding on his reaction that he thought he made a prior scum game's post in this one.

@Gamma,

You should see my basement. I'm alive by the



Because I

[MathBlade]

I think the case on you scum is kinda solid honestly.

okay which one?

You’re actively avoiding giving reads on almost all slots
You’re trying to use aggression to mask conversation

(My own reason)
You seem to be doing the same tactics from our game earlier with Andres you me scum
Wagons stalled for a while then we just hammered one because town wouldn’t hammer

This has same scum vibes

[MathBlade]

Titus I am giving reads. I just added Roden to my no elim pool it’s up to two

As I said I am resetting

[Titus]

She’s doing that thing she did in the gunsmith game where I had an inno on gamma and the wagon sat on Carca for a while (thanks again Gamma) and she tried to start up wagons here trying to get anyone to join her.

If you think this push was about getting people to join me on you, you're sorely mistaken.

It was to shore up my read on you and see if Ari would defend you if she didn't know it was you.

I got both answered.

My theory is HEM Math Ari.

I'm ready to end the day now.

[humaneatingmonkey]

You’re actively avoiding giving reads on almost all slots

i just gave you a titus read and i just gave you an enchant read. i'm trying my best sir.

You’re trying to use aggression to mask conversation

how have i been aggressive in this game??

what tactics?

[Aristeia]

every time i prompt her to explain, she just blanketly says "you play different" but yeah citation needed.

i addressed this in

1457 and 1458,1459

[Roden]

im not asking ari to town case me. im asking her to describe my town meta.

Do you think you're playing to your town meta this game?

If you're claiming that you are playing to your town meta, and you want Ari to describe your town meta, you are effectively asking her to town case you.

[humaneatingmonkey]

like in that game you interact with multiple slots

you do not death tunnel GLion right off the bat with bad faith lies. so I don't really understand how it's comparable to this one.

this is what i mean by regurgitate. you just keep on saying i made bad faith lies but there was not a single lie and i debunked your whole case already. if you refuse to acknowledge that, then i don't blame you if your agenda is to elim me.

[Titus]

Gamma, Roden, HQ, StD, I'm here and willing to assist if you need anything (like a breakdown of what happened and what I would have expected). Otherwise, I'm ready to call it. LMK

[MathBlade]

You’re actively avoiding giving reads on almost all slots

i just gave you a titus read and i just gave you an enchant read. i'm trying my best sir.

You’re trying to use aggression to mask conversation

how have i been aggressive in this game??

what tactics?

The whole fight with Ari.

Reminds me of when you were kinda wagoned in the other game

Seems to have the same pulse

And I am sorry two players like even if you don’t reach a conclusion you can give thoughts unless you’re resetting and then you’d have a premise you’re exploring

[implosion]

i think town!implo wouldve written why he was convinced rather than use an excuse like this

Not certain what you mean by "why he was convinced". Like, you think I would have re-explained it? I'd explained it before, why would I re-explain it?

if town implo believes this about hem - i see no reason why he would soften his stance on HEM given that since this post hem has come back and given reads on exactly noone. if anything this makes his antispew point about hem even more salient and should cause him to double down on hem scum and want to yeet hem.

I mean, this is simply wrong? He didn't give reads on exactly no one, he gave reads on Dwlee and on myself, and they were the kind of thing I had wanted out of them, they had analysis behind them. I don't view it as enough to reverse the scumread but it did at least start giving me pause.

Continuing to read through but want to start replying now.

[humaneatingmonkey]

im not asking ari to town case me. im asking her to describe my town meta.

Do you think you're playing to your town meta this game?

If you're claiming that you are playing to your town meta, and you want Ari to describe your town meta, you are effectively asking her to town case you.

describing my town meta is basic courtesy if you're doing a meta case and if describing it unravels your case then your case is shit in the first place.

[humaneatingmonkey]

you’d have a premise you’re exploring

i HAVE one. please read my posts.