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[Gamma Emerald]

what are people's thoughts on Cakez again?

[skitter30]

skitter i think if you vote me just because I was the one who succumbed to the ennui of no one talking about anything but Beat when we had 2 days less it's kind of a shoot-the-messenger relationship with the bad wagon

I hope you have some other reasons to scumread me

- dont think beat was inevitable with 2 days left
- i do object to you 'succumbing to ennui', yes
- i dislike that you were putting some of the blame for your vote on ari, and that u were making moves towards voting her
- i still take issue with 108

[Aristeia]

VOTE: isis

[Ydrasse]

Coral replaces the worst.

[Coral]

Hello!!

How are you all? I heard there was a boat party here. I do hope that the spirits of the party haven't been too dampened, but briefly skimming gives me the sense that the mood is not as high as it was previously. I'm sorry to hear that.

[skitter30]

Hello!

[marcistar]

omg hi coral!!! its so nice to see u've come prepared!!!

[Isis]

I like coral

[Isis]

skitter i think if you vote me just because I was the one who succumbed to the ennui of no one talking about anything but Beat when we had 2 days less it's kind of a shoot-the-messenger relationship with the bad wagon

I hope you have some other reasons to scumread me

- dont think beat was inevitable with 2 days left
- i do object to you 'succumbing to ennui', yes
- i dislike that you were putting some of the blame for your vote on ari, and that u were making moves towards voting her
- i still take issue with 108

I have no interest in killing Ari aside from the survivalism of being an alternative in terms of onwagon limming. I'd much rather kill Marci. No one would join me if I tried to build a wagon on Marci. Idk I'm learning that Beat's feeling of lack of agency isn't scummy at all and feel foolish and bad

[Isis]

If you lose this game because you solved post 108 less correctly than GuiltyLion it won't be a story I shed much tears over that's a pretty interesting way for a mafia game to go.

If you're scum here and pushing argument ad repetition on me I'm significantly more worried about that as a shitty way to lose when so much of your play has been convenient.

Like I know there is scum on the wagon but I also know you're pushing the laser pointer towards the only person on the wagon I know is town

With the tipping point of "oh, she hammered"

Which I have less comfort with you misinterpreting than 108

[skitter30]

I stopped pushing you for like a week, and the person you think is scum on that wagon is the one person i'm p confident is town

You have like two votes on u, not sure why you're acting like you're imminently flipping and trying to guilt-trip me for losing the game

How has my play been conveninent?
Why is marci scum?

[Isis]

ur charisma stat is very good

[Isis]

i didn't understand or buy into why you ever stopped pushing me

[Isis]

marcistar's treatment of the fruit slot has been super bizarre and makes me feel like she knows he's town

[Isis]

maybe only bizarre

[Coral]

omg hi coral!!! its so nice to see u've come prepared!!!

I did! It took me quite a while to choose the right outfit, actually. I spent longer doing that than I did reading the game

I've read a bit but not very closely, I'll try to catch up fully tomorrow. From what I did read I liked the solve of Pavowski/Beat/skitter, and felt Titus was town, but since Beat was town I think I'll have to reassess that.

[Coral]

I don't actually like Isis' reaction to the Beat flip very much, now that I think about it. It feels performative

[Isis]

I'm pretty minimalist with my flip reactions when I play scum, maybe that's a leak though

[Coral]

I still feel good about my Titus townread, after reading her ISO. It looks like she's trying to solve the game, not control it. And I agree with her direction on the Beat/Pavowski scum pairing even if it didn't end up correct. My skitter scum guess was almost entirely based on her somewhat indirect shade of Titus' reads. I'm not sure if that one holds up.

[Coral]

I'm pretty minimalist with my flip reactions when I play scum, maybe that's a leak though

I don't exactly mean the immediate reaction. I'm actually not sure I fully grasp the meaning of the sentence that pinged me, so maybe it was wrong to draw a read from it

can you expand on what you meant by the last sentence of 1783?

[Coral]

I started to reread from the beginning and maybe it's just late but it was putting me to sleep. i am terribly tempted to just read everyone off vibes, would that be awful of me?

the first person to tell me yes automatically has the best vibes and gets townread for life

[Isis]

Ydrasse is the mod you are required to make all reads purely on vibes

[Coral]

That's exactly what I wanted to hear!! town!!

[Coral]

I still would like an answer to my question though if you don't mind.

[Isis]

1. My ari scumread was addressed before the vote near start of day. It has grown since then.
2. I believe this is an accurate read on my position with the Gamma Wagon. I'm not convinced enough of GE being scum to vote there when we are so close to hammer. I also have other scumreads I'd like to address more. I am fence sitting on Gamma deliberately in a way (though i didnt think of it like this before)

(Additionally I dont think a GE flip gives us much info regardless of alignment)

My issue is more - if you don't think GE is a good flip and you're invested in an Ari scumread, why weren't you being more loud about it? 1051 isn't gonna motivate anyone to vote Ari, I'd expect town to be more vocal about steering the wagon away from Gamma if that's what you want. that's what I mean by "quiet", you were content to let a bunch of people argue with each other and Ari to hardpush Gamma while you just plopped a vote on her

it might be a playstyle thing because you've been kinda withdrawn throughout the whole game but especially at that particular juncture of the game it felt like you didn't actually care about the current momentum of Ari's Gamma push/wagon

I mean my input this game has largely been ignored/ not engaged with except as reason to scumread me which doesn't incentivize me to be anything other than be withdrawn.

I was talking about this post.

I feel like there's definitely ways to townread and scumread the mindset of this post.

We know she was town now.

If you can't get your preferred eliminations because no one is on your wavelength at all it doesn't matter if they're right, the benefits just don't exist, the player will not actually die. And not dying is the only the left you could do for your win%.

If I looked back I wouldn't be surprised if I had a bit more engagement than Beat ever got, but as a baseline people listen to me most of the time in most of my games so I'm not used being on the fringes as much as I am here.